FQ Wolf GWF Wolf Vol. 1 Discussion Thread: WOLVES WIN

[VashTheStampede]

What do the English call a magnifying glass? Probably something like "a hand lens"

 

[shortkut]

 

[Jawneh]

Well, until I think of something specific or someone comes up with a genius wolf catching plan, I'll be the second person to cast a vote albeit randomly.

And mines for  shortkut.

Because there's no shortcuts in life and soon maybe no shortkuts either.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Is it really random when you vote for the only other person to vote for a person?

Or is it like XCOM random where they swear it's rng but I keep missing a 95% chance to hit WAY more than 5% of the time?

 

[Cole]

I would like to formally request we allow a vote if abstain.

random day 1 voting is silly. abstaining is a strategy. insisting on random day 1 voting is silly.

 

[shortkut]

I would like to formally request we allow a vote if abstain.

random day 1 voting is silly. abstaining is a strategy. insisting on random day 1 voting is silly.

We can try it for volume 2

 

[Cole]

We can try it for volume 2

the way I read the "can take feedback as we go" thing is to mean if enough people disagree shee'll change it now. but maybe she meant for future games.

 

[Jawneh]

Is it really random when you vote for the only other person to vote for a person?

Haha! I completely forgot who cast the first vote entirely. I just remembered it was for ants. Then I thought of a mediocre pun and decided to send that as a vote for kut.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Might wanna be careful, lest your jawneh comes to an abrupt end

Like, you know...journey.

Ok that was less than mediocre.

 

[Jawneh]

At least I cant get vashed up like you can.

 

[Zell 17]

The other thing, do we just need a plurality to lynch? Or a majority?

 

[Zell 17]

NVM sounds like someone must die and everyone must vote.

 

[Fire Queen]

about to hit the hay for the evening so here’s some stuff:

- i think i will decide to allow votes to abstain but for this day one vote only. i think that will make it more chaotic and as we all know that makes wolf games funner
- whoever gets the most votes gets executed so plurality is a-ok.
- about 24 more hours left in this day phase

also unrelated but

They/she

i know you were hedging but also way to guess them lol

 

[shortkut]

about to hit the hay for the evening so here’s some stuff:

- i think i will decide to allow votes to abstain but for this day one vote only. i think that will make it more chaotic and as we all know that makes wolf games funner
- whoever gets the most votes gets executed so plurality is a-ok.
- about 24 more hours left in this day phase

also unrelated but

i know you were hedging but also way to guess them lol

on a more serious note, what pronouns do you prefer?

 

[Fire Queen]

she/they! in classic adhd fashion i can’t pick just one so…

y’all don’t need to mix it up on like a sentence by sentence basis or anything just use whatever strikes your fancy in the moment. anyway time to hit the old bed stack for real

 

[canadaguy]

Is it okay to still use FK?

 

[Fire Queen]

Is it okay to still use FK?

honestly yeah i still like it it’s a nice pair of letters, that and FQ can be pretty interchangeable

 

[canadaguy]

Cool.

And both of them look like they'd sound like FUCK so that's cool too.

 

[Ants!]

Going to vote shortkut for self preservation.

 

[shortkut]

Going to vote shortkut for self preservation.

when you see I’m innocent, you’ll realize you’ve only doomed yourselves

@Fire Queen in the morning can you give us a tally on where things stand?

 

[Cole]

when you see I’m innocent, you’ll realize you’ve only doomed yourselves

@Fire Queen in the morning can you give us a tally on where things stand?

my guy, you say that line literally every single mafia or wolf game whether you are or aren't a bad guy.

"you've doomed yourself when I'm innocent!"

edit: and to add on to that, random votes are stupid you're all stupid.

 

[The Flame]

While my gut feeling is to assume the big talkers are just 2 wolves pretending to argue with each other, I suck at this game and am going to abstain from voting for now. Not sure if I even need to say that for inactivity rules and such, but day one dumb and I might forget to show up later.

 

[shortkut]

my guy, you say that line literally every single mafia or wolf game whether you are or aren't a bad guy.

"you've doomed yourself when I'm innocent!"

edit: and to add on to that, random votes are stupid you're all stupid.

 

[Cole]

While my gut feeling is to assume the big talkers are just 2 wolves pretending to argue with each other, I suck at this game and am going to abstain from voting for now. Not sure if I even need to say that for inactivity rules and such, but day one dumb and I might forget to show up later.

this is a false representation of the game. the big talkers are important, whatever shortkut and I are, we're getting things flowing, people are chiming in on our debate, it sets the flow. early days that's important.

and I think you know that.

 

[shortkut]

this is a false representation of the game. the big talkers are important, whatever shortkut and I are, we're getting things flowing, people are chiming in on our debate, it sets the flow. early days that's important.

and I think you know that.

Without big talkers and pot-stirrers, no one would say anything and we could all just submit votes without saying much else and it would have less strategy than a game of tic-tac-toe

 

[Holly]

I would like to formally request we allow a vote if abstain.

random day 1 voting is silly. abstaining is a strategy. insisting on random day 1 voting is silly.

For this I am voting Coleman. Pushing so hard against day 1 voting is exactly what I'd expect a wolf to say.

 

[Cole]

For this I am voting Coleman. Pushing so hard against day 1 voting is exactly what I'd expect a wolf to say.

I am very curious on why you think forcing a random vote day 1 is beneficial to the town? what are the odds we get a wolf? how does this help us?

Zell was going to no vote even before no voting was allowed. it's the logical thing to do day 1.

 

[The Flame]

Without big talkers and pot-stirrers, no one would say anything and we could all just submit votes without saying much else and it would have less strategy than a game of tic-tac-toe

My comment wasn't meant to suggest the big talkers are always wolves or trying to discourage it. That would be foolish and it's the type of thing that always gets people like Cole killed off early. But when I scan over a Day One thread with little to go off and still see a lot of arguing, it's hard not to get the vibe that at least one of them is up to something. Especially in a game with a lot of experienced people. Until tomorrow all we have to go off of are gut feelings, no matter how wrong they will probably end up being .

 

[Zell 17]

IMO the wolves are likely all quiet here. Except Coleman. He could be a wolf, or a townie, and he’d still be talking.

 

[Major Isoor]

I'm gonna abstain today - you can never form a worthwhile opinion on day one, so eh. We'll just have to see what the mobster wolves do tonight and then kill someone off, accordingly

 

[shortkut]

IMO the wolves are likely all quiet here. Except Coleman. He could be a wolf, or a townie, and he’d still be talking.

That’s what I said. Cole and two quiet wolves

 

[Zell 17]

I am very curious on why you think forcing a random vote day 1 is beneficial to the town? what are the odds we get a wolf? how does this help us?

Zell was going to no vote even before no voting was allowed. it's the logical thing to do day 1.

So we are basically playing a game without any information. Every town lynch is going to be somewhat random by definition. The logic behind lynching randomly is that the town only gets so many opportunities to kill a wolf, and the only way to do that is by lynching. If you skip an opportunity, that's one less roll of the dice in trying to get a baddie.

Of course, if you mislynch, it hurts twice as much.

 

[shortkut]

So we are basically playing a game without any information. Every town lynch is going to be somewhat random by definition. The logic behind lynching randomly is that the town only gets so many opportunities to kill a wolf, and the only way to do that is by lynching. If you skip an opportunity, that's one less roll of the dice in trying to get a baddie.

Of course, if you mislynch, it hurts twice as much.

I’m sure Cole knows that and the fact he is so against it is what makes me think he’s a wolf

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I've watched enough Amogus videos to know that you don't vote on round one unless you have some blatantly obvious information that points toward someone being guilty, or you pick someone at random for funsies.

With that in mind, I'm voting @Major Isoor for absolutely no reason other than because he's an Aussie and those folk can't be trusted.

 

[Cole]

So we are basically playing a game without any information. Every town lynch is going to be somewhat random by definition. The logic behind lynching randomly is that the town only gets so many opportunities to kill a wolf, and the only way to do that is by lynching. If you skip an opportunity, that's one less roll of the dice in trying to get a baddie.

Of course, if you mislynch, it hurts twice as much.

I’m sure Cole knows that and the fact he is so against it is what makes me think he’s a wolf

no, this is always the way I've played regardless of what I am. the risk of killing a townie (which is LOWER every single day phase) is not worth it on day 1.

there is a huge difference between a random educated guess on day 2 or 3 than a completely random guess on day 1. a completely random guess favors only the wolves becsuse chances are the town misses.

I get "taking away a day" from the wolves, but if the town misses and hits a civi, that just makes the wolves job easier.

shortkut is also being stubborn becsuse HE KNOWS there's little chance of catching a wolf today, he knows talking and getting things going is how we get information moving forward. day 2 won't be as random as day 1, and day 3 won't be as random as day 2. but the odds of getting one day 1 with zero sustainable info is stupid.

 

[VashTheStampede]

But if we DO hit a wolf, it make our job waaaay easier, no?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

But if we DO hit a wolf, it make our job waaaay easier, no?

Odds are not in favor of voting off a wolf on round one...

 

[VashTheStampede]

And yet you voted for Isoor for "funsies"...

I vote Fool's Requiem for playing both sides.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I voted Isoor because I knew no one else is going to vote him this round.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh shit good point. Can we change votes?

 

[shortkut]

Odds are not in favor of voting off a wolf on round one...

The odds are not in our favor any day, that is why there are fewer wolves than townies

 

[shortkut]

Oh shit good point. Can we change votes?

One vote change per round

 

[VashTheStampede]

Ok well I'll stand with mine right now and know I can change if someone else jumps on it

 

[Ants!]

No one’s going to jump on your two inches.

Wait sorry thought I was in the Thunderdome.

 

[shortkut]

No one’s going to jump on your two inches.

Wait sorry thought I was in the Thunderdome.

If you’re going to attack @Christina like that, I will double down on my vote @Ants! and I encourage everyone to change their vote to support me

 

[Cole]

The odds are not in our favor any day, that is why there are fewer wolves than townies

the odds increase every single day of hitting a wolf. going from random 3 out of 14 with zero information, to 3 out of 13 with some, 3 out of 12 with more, etc.

shortkut has now 100% locked in an entirely arbitrary vote and clearly has no concern about killing a civi.

 

[shortkut]

the odds increase every single day of hitting a wolf. going from random 3 out of 14 with zero information, to 3 out of 13 with some, 3 out of 12 with more, etc.

shortkut has now 100% locked in an entirely arbitrary vote and clearly has no concern about killing a civi.

Unless @Fire Queen is going to drop hints to steer us towards a wolf, every day will be an arbitrary vote.

Yes the odds increase, but they are never great odds so why wait

 

[Ants!]

If you’re going to attack @Christina like that, I will double down on my vote @Ants! and I encourage everyone to change their vote to support me

I did say the word sorry!

 

[shortkut]

I did say the word sorry!

Sorry doesn’t put the milk back in the lamp

 

[Raposuh]

Milk is not good fuel for lamps, only somebody who can see in complete darkness would be so unfamiliar with lamps, and for that reason I am voting for shortkut.