Zell Wolf GWF Wolf Version VII Night 2 / Day 2

[Dean]

 

[TD]

I actually checked it after my first post about the Zell DM and realized how dumb it was and tried to just keep joking through it.

This legit sounds like you.
Checks out.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I have a better idea. What if...

Raine puts her ritualist spell on me

We lynch me. We get the identity of a player.

I come back tomorrow.

 

[Raine]

Anyway

I just want to be super clear

When I say the town is being low-effort/zero-effort still, I simply mean they aren't being super competitive. Not that they're, like, bad players, or aren't necessarily trying, or anything like that.

The issue with the balancing considerations can and will be addressed in the post-game, as per usual.

BUT BASICALLY I'M JUST TRYING TO SAY THAT I LOVE ALL YOU GOOBERS EVEN IF YOU STRESS ME OUT

 

[Dean]

Raine, are you basically admitting that you're the wolf, not Tommy?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Yeah a lot of "they" talk and not "we" talk there

 

[Raine]

I am the Ritualist. That's it. That's all I'm saying.

Off to work.

 

[Dean]

Unless Raine is an independent role, like Illusionist. I don't think Raine is playing like the Fool...

 

[Dean]

Raine just dropped a huge hint. She said she's the Ritualist. I think she's trying to tell us something, but I wish she would just come out and say it!

 

[Dean]

Guys, I've been beating around the bush a lot this game, and I just want to come clean about my role.

I'm the Beast Hunter.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Too late to change the lynch now but I wish I would have thought of just getting myself lynched earlier.

But y'all would have just said I'm the fool anyway.

 

[Dean]

I wish I would've thought about just telling everybody that I'm the Beast Hunter so there was no confusion. It feels so liberating.

 

[Tubby23]

Too late to change the lynch now but I wish I would have thought of just getting myself lynched earlier.

But y'all would have just said I'm the fool anyway.

We could all lynch Raine she's potentially as guilty as Tommy IMO

 

[TD]

Also I spent a good portion last night essentially telling TD that I'm like 80% sure he's a wolf, and giving him an out of his own design. If I'm wrong about that assumption, maybe it's just indigestion IDK - and I hope that I am wrong - we will proceed to with our usual tanking and spanking of whatever opposition remains.

You couldn't be more wrong my dear.

Speaking of wolves. Wanna know the rabbit hole my brain went down last night?

It's a wild ride that involves you being or having a wild random wolf like the Berserker, lining up protection, and false role claiming the role that Cole, you, and I talked about being super fun to role claim.

...but what are the odds of that?

 

[Tubby23]

You couldn't be more wrong my dear.

Speaking of wolves. Wanna know the rabbit hole my brain went down last night?

It's a wild ride that involves you being or having a wild random wolf like the Berserker, lining up protection, and false role claiming the role that Cole, you, and I talked about being super fun to role claim.

...but what are the odds of that?

1 in 34,679

 

[Dean]

We could all lynch Raine she's potentially as guilty as Tommy IMO

I know it's risky, but I want to stick with Tommy. We've only got one hour and change left. Tommy hasn't put effort in this game anyway. At least if we are wrong, we can lynch Raine tomorrow.

 

[VashTheStampede]

GG guys I'll see you in Australia

 

[TD]

I wish I would've thought about just telling everybody that I'm the Beast Hunter so there was no confusion. It feels so liberating.

Hell I said what my role was explicitly and it feels like only a few people got it, so I hear you.

 

[Tubby23]

I know it's risky, but I want to stick with Tommy. We've only got one hour and change left. Tommy hasn't put effort in this game anyway. At least if we are wrong, we can lynch Raine tomorrow.

Oh I just want to be mean while she left for work haha

 

[Smacktard]

There's a lot to unpack here but once again, you're way off. Word of advice for you and Local, this consistent "if someone calls me guilty, they're the bad guy" is one of the oldest cover ups in the book.

I knew you would come at me with this line, and it's such bullshit coming from you because you accuse literally EVERYONE. You accuse everyone from the get-go and then use it like a coat of armor when someone else points out that it might be STRANGE that you're blaming people for not lynching someone who you now "believe" is a townie.

If I was the Illusionist, what sense would it make for me to try to publically out you? Spoiler alert, it doesn't. I would literally kill you long before I came out and picked a fight with you to completely detach myself from you

It gives you perfect cover under the excuse "why would I pick a fight with Kelly and then kill him? It would only make ME look guilty!"

Along with that - that would assume that I feel someone who is claiming Sheriff is a threat to me?

It doesn't matter. You need to whittle down the town's numbers as quickly as possible before people figure out your role, and you see me as a safe bet. It doesn't take much to start a lynch mob against me since I've been baddie a few times before and my name automatically triggers peoples' sus radars.

Now? Yeah no fucking way you're the Sheriff.

No fucking way you're the aura seer whatever protective role you're pretending to be now. But I guess your inconsistencies make more sense than the possibility of there being two sheriffs (provided Tubby isn't lying, which it seems we'll find out shortly).

 

[Smacktard]

Tubby says: Tommy or Raine are wolves. Tommy gets lynched, is wolf. Tubby STONKS go to the moon, Smacktard gets lynched

I still don't understand why Tubby being correct would lead to my being lynched. I hope he is correct, because that means we're down one wolf (two, including Fools'?). Contrary to good sense, a town can have two sheriffs.

It wasn't an oversight, it was a deliberate choice.

...which you still haven't explained, and which you're still refusing to explain. I initially believed you, but each post you're making is more sus than the last. I hope to god we're right.

The town has proven thus far they weren't ready for being on even footing/actual underdogs

Well, we'll find out soon I guess. There's always the possibility FR could've been a wolf

 

[TD]

I knew you would come at me with this line, and it's such bullshit coming from you because you accuse literally EVERYONE. You accuse everyone from the get-go and then use it like a coat of armor when someone else points out that it might be STRANGE that you're blaming people for not lynching someone who you now "believe" is a townie.

Exactly my point. I accuse everyone. Why? Because unlike your bullshit claim, I have absolutely no way of knowing who is who so I throw shit at a wall until it sticks on someone who gets hyper defensive about what they're doing and I hone in. It's pretty simple. Literally all you and Local have offered is coming back at me when I come at you, which again is one of the biggest mistakes baddies make. Cole even explicitly pointed this out and the baddies still do it.

It doesn't matter. You need to whittle down the town's numbers as quickly as possible before people figure out your role, and you see me as a safe bet. It doesn't take much to start a lynch mob against me since I've been baddie a few times before and my name automatically triggers peoples' sus radars.

So why would I try to lynch you if I'm just going to kill you during the day? If I come at you trying to lynch you, I would be wasting this Illusionist kill that you for some reason think I have. Like you said, the Illusionist needs to whittle down the town's numbers, why use the disguise on you then try to lynch you?

Again, So. Many. Holes.

No fucking way you're the aura seer whatever protective role you're pretending to be now. But I guess your inconsistencies make more sense than the possibility of there being two sheriffs (provided Tubby isn't lying, which it seems we'll find out shortly).

I've very explicitly claimed my role. I thought you even picked up on it but obviously it was coincidence if you think I'm claiming Aura Seer.

I really hope Raine's plan is legit and we find you next.

 

[Local Hero]

Too late to change the lynch now but I wish I would have thought of just getting myself lynched earlier.

But y'all would have just said I'm the fool anyway.

I tried to take you up on this offer at least twice, and each time you act do surprised that I would do such a thing!

 

[TD]

@Smacktard
Oh and I'll throw you a bone. It's really obvious who the candidates to die tonight are just like last night, so pick your target and feed us whatever honest or bullshit thing you're going to see tomorrow.

 

[Smacktard]

Come on TD, you are smarter than this. I think I hit the nail on the head with my Illusionist claim because your logic is lacking, but not so lacking that you're trying to get yourself lynched.

Because unlike your bullshit claim,

As opposed to your really solid claim of "aura seer no wait I mean Protection Guy"?

I have absolutely no way of knowing who is who so I throw shit at a wall until it sticks on someone who gets hyper defensive about what they're doing and I hone in. I

First you said I should be lynched because I was being too blase and casual and wasn't doing the town any favors, now you say I'm super defensive? Very inconsistent.

So why would I try to lynch you if I'm just going to kill you during the day?

Obvious answer: disguise me, get me lynched, town stops worrying about illusionist, then you kill the leftovers in one night much later in the game after wolves are gone.

 

[Smacktard]

Obvious answer: disguise me, get me lynched, town stops worrying about illusionist, then you kill the leftovers in one night much later in the game after wolves are gone.

I'm aware of how sus this could make me sound, but I don't care. I told you all my role is shit, I don't care if I have to die and take one for the team, but if you do it, do it *after* you kill TD, because I'm sure he'll rack up another ready sacrifice over tonight, meaning he'll have two kills to make tomorrow.

 

[Tubby23]

 

[VashTheStampede]

I tried to take you up on this offer at least twice, and each time you act do surprised that I would do such a thing!

I didn't have a Ritualist to bring me back!

 

[Local Hero]

I didn't have a Ritualist to bring me back!

Wait, we have a ritualist?

 

[Local Hero]

Wait, we have a ritualist?

Jkjk.

What are the odds that @Raine isn't who she says she is?

 

[Smacktard]

@Smacktard
Oh and I'll throw you a bone. It's really obvious who the candidates to die tonight are just like last night, so pick your target and feed us whatever honest or bullshit thing you're going to see tomorrow.

Another inconsistency.
If last night's death was really obvious, why would you not PROTECT them, since you're now claiming to be a protector?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Jkjk.

What are the odds that @Raine isn't who she says she is?

Moderate to severe

 

[Tubby23]

Jkjk.

What are the odds that @Raine isn't who she says she is?

Quite high I'd say

 

[TD]

Phase is almost over so I'll keep this short and we can look more tomorrow.

As opposed to your really solid claim of "aura seer no wait I mean Protection Guy"?

Please, PLEASE, point out where I claimed aura seer. I'll wait.

First you said I should be lynched because I was being too blase and casual and wasn't doing the town any favors, now you say I'm super defensive? Very inconsistent.

...because NOW you are being super defensive?

Obvious answer: disguise me, get me lynched, town stops worrying about illusionist, then you kill the leftovers in one night much later in the game after wolves are gone.

What about the missing kill? What about when more Illusionist bodies pop up? You're not thinking this accusation through.

Another inconsistency.
If last night's death was really obvious, why would you not PROTECT them, since you're now claiming to be a protector?

As I said, candidates. Plural. As I said, I protected who at the time I thought was seer because they hinted as much to me.

I also knew that if I picked wrong of the candidates available, there was a chance the Sheriff would have picked right and we could still walk away with a wolf.

Tubby claims to have watched Ben, who were you watching?

 

[Dean]

Quite high I'd say

 

[Smacktard]

Full disclosure:
I just scanned like 15 pages of TD posts and can't find anywhere he claimed aura seer. I may have been mistaken.

I did find: one weak witch claim day one (perhaps mocking Local's claim) and him saying "we may have one or two protection roles but nothing guaranteed" before now saying in Day 2 that he's a "protection role".

Conveniently, witch is a protection role, and ALSO an unknown aura (like a random, kill-y role). If he was a witch, I'd think he would've sent me a death potion given how insistent he's been that I'm a bad dude.

That's all I have to contribute to the town today that I can think of.

 

[TD]

Kelly, you're fucking killing me dude.

I did not claim Witch and I did claim something with a Good aura.

I didn't think it was THAT subtle, but apparently it was and it seems like only one person (so far) has publically indicated that they picked up on it. Others may have but they're not trying to out my exact role for a reason.

 

[Smacktard]

...because NOW you are being super defensive?

So are you?

What about the missing kill? What about when more Illusionist bodies pop up? You're not thinking this accusation through.

What missing kill? What are you talking about?
My claim:
TD illusionist.
TD disguise Smacktard.
TD lead Smacktard lynch.
"See?? Told you he was Illusionist."
TD survive til end of game, disguising every player.
When wolves all dead, TD kill rest of town all at once.
Your aren't thinking it through, even though it's glaringly obvious play.

As I said, candidates. Plural. As I said, I protected who at the time I thought was seer because they hinted as much to me.

After admitting that seer roles in this game are useless?

Tubby claims to have watched Ben, who were you watching?

I told you already. I checked Local because I thought wolves would kill him rather than risk losing with a bad lynch.

 

[Tubby23]

Trying to figure out who to watch tonight is complicated

 

[TD]

TD survive til end of game, disguising every player.
When wolves all dead, TD kill rest of town all at once.

...you think I can survive until the end of the game in my permanent state of sus?

This is your boldest statement yet.

 

[Smacktard]

Kelly, you're fucking killing me dude.

I did not claim Witch

ok

 

[Smacktard]

...you think I can survive until the end of the game in my permanent state of sus?

This is your boldest statement yet.

I think you're exactly the type to not give up even if it seemed impossible.

 

[TD]

...in a string of posts where like 4 people claimed witch as a joke.

You're reaching.

Hard.

 

[A Punched Face]

I like posts.

 

[Tubby23]

...you think I can survive until the end of the game in my permanent state of sus?

This is your boldest statement yet.

Might not be that much longer if wolfs and Illusionist keep killing

 

[TD]

I think you're exactly the type to not give up even if it seemed impossible.

Well yeah, you're right about this at least.

 

[Tubby23]

I like posts.

 

[TD]

Trying to figure out who to watch tonight is complicated

For my money there's two obvious targets if you've been watching closely.

 

[Tubby23]

For my money there's two obvious targets if you've been watching closely.

Yes picking the right one though

 

[TD]

Yes picking the right one though

50/50 to get a 50/50.