U.S.A. Fmr. President Trump shot at during campaign event in Butler, PA

[Mark]

Shots fired at Trump event in Butler, PA. Trump seen grabbing his right ear in reflex, blood seen as he was escorted away.



Within seconds, a voice could be heard yelling “shooter down”. The injuries on Trump appear to be superficial, unknown if any others were injured beyond the suspect.

I replayed the video a few times myself, and his reaction seems to be most like one of someone who took a grazing or shrapnel contact. Not a direct hit.

Edit @ 9:50PM EST:
Associated Press:

Shooting at Trump rally is being investigated as assassination attempt, AP sources say

Donald Trump appeared to be the target of an assassination attempt as he spoke during a rally in Pennsylvania on Saturday.

apnews.com

Reuters:

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/sounds-multiple-shots-heard-trump-rally-pennsylvania-video-2024-07-13/

 

[Shadow.]

Between Biden completely shitting the bed in the debate and Trump surviving an assassination attempt this election is over. Conservatives are about to rally behind those images of a bloody Trump even more than they did his mugshot.

 

[MC74]

Well, this might provide the ammo the Republicans need to win the election. The assassination attempt is sure to rile up the Conservative base. Shit is about to get even more chaotic.

 

[Quagmire]

Between Biden completely shitting the bed in the debate and Trump surviving an assassination attempt this election is over. Conservatives are about to rally behind those images of a bloody Trump even more than they did his mugshot.

This could fucking win him the election

 

[MC74]

This could fucking win him the election

More like it WILL.

 

[Ancle Suck]

Seems too perfect of a picture

 

[Ants!]

They just need to try again with a better marksman.

Not because I disagree with him politically, but because he's literally a threat to our entire system of democracy and doing things the legal way doesn't work after he packed SCOTUS with cronies.

 

[MC74]

This could fucking win him the election

As if they needed anymore ammo, but this officially seals it and puts the final nail in the coffin for the Dems. Trump is guaranteed to get the trifecta after this.

 

[Quagmire]

Knowing how dirty he and the Republicans play I would not be surprised if this was a staged and he secretly cut his ear when he fell down

 

[Ants!]

At most it might win him some sympathy from a few people who were just barely not-voting for him before this. I don't think it'll have as big an impact in 4 months as yall expect.

For the record: I'm not claiming he can't win, just that it's not going to make an unrecoverable landslide shift like a lot of us are saying.

 

[Quagmire]

At most it might win him some sympathy from a few people who were just barely not-voting for him before this. I don't think it'll have as big an impact in 4 months as yall expect.

For the record: I'm not claiming he can't win, just that it's not going to make an unrecoverable landslide shift like a lot of us are saying.

My worry is the few conservatives that may have some decency and we're going to either vote for RFK or not cast a presidential vote and see this as some democrat Ploy and are now scared and will vote for Trump

 

[Mark]

Regardless of how anyone feels about this, when politician’s lives are threatened, it puts us that much closer to countries like Russia than any of us want to be.

Knowing how dirty he and the Republicans play I would not be surprised if this was a staged and he secretly cut his ear when he fell down

I’m not so sure of that. I’ve heard the blood-letting angle because of his WWE history already, but there wasn’t much time at all between when he grabbed his ear, dropped, and was dog piled by Secret Service. For that to happen, his detail would have to be in on it, and then he would obviously be required to undergo medical evaluation which… let’s face it, the records of that will go public regardless of anything HIPA-related.

 

[Jon]

I am not about to wish death on anyone. I believe in karma. But this is worse than it should be. If you're gonna do this, don't fucking miss.....

 

[Ants!]

Pretty much. It could give him a boost, but only so far as energizing his base who were already energized anyway.

 

[Jon]

This is the shit that angers me. THIS violence is unacceptable. But when pro-Trumpers do it to the Nation's capitol, it's "peaceful protests."

Fuck MAGA man...

 

[Ants!]

At least Dem leaders are taking the right steps and immediately making statements of sympathy for Trump and condemnation of the shooter and violence in general.

 

[Quagmire]

Regardless of how anyone feels about this, when politician’s lives are threatened, it puts us that much closer to countries like Russia than any of us want to be.



I’m not so sure of that. I’ve heard the blood-letting angle because of his WWE history already, but there wasn’t much time at all between when he grabbed his ear, dropped, and was dog piled by Secret Service. For that to happen, his detail would have to be in on it, and then he would obviously be required to undergo medical evaluation which… let’s face it, the records of that will go public regardless of anything HIPA-related.

I've also seen blood capsule suggestion

Not saying it is staged, just wouldn't be shocked

 

[Quagmire]

At least Dem leaders are taking the right steps and immediately making statements of sympathy for Trump and condemnation of the shooter and violence in general.

Honestly wouldn't be shocked if some Maga nut tries to retaliate

 

[MC74]

Regardless of how anyone feels about this, when politician’s lives are threatened, it puts us that much closer to countries like Russia than any of us want to be.

And with Trump having Presidential immunity, that's even more worrying. This is the kind of thing that can be used towards consolidating power. Fear is a powerful weapon.

 

[shortkut]

Honestly wouldn't be shocked if some Maga nut tries to retaliate

As awful as that would be, it would solve the issue of Biden needing to step down

 

[Mark]

And with Trump having Presidential immunity, that's even more worrying. This is the kind of thing that can be used towards consolidating power. Fear is a powerful weapon.

Fear is the oldest weapon in the history of humans.

As awful as that would be, it would solve the issue of Biden needing to step down

…buuut then we’d get another Republican candidate.

 

[MC74]

Fear is the oldest weapon in the history of humans.

Time-tested and effective. Part of the reason why the divide & conquer strategy works.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

We are so fucked. Trying to assassinate him was NOT the fucking call.

 

[shortkut]

We are so fucked. Trying to assassinate him was NOT the fucking call.

It could have been if they succeeded

 

[Fool's Requiem]

It could have been if they succeeded

You know what happens if the assassination is successful? He becomes a fucking martyr. Whomever they would select to replace him would win in a landslide. Biden only stands a chance against TRUMP.

 

[Mark]

You know what happens if the assassination is successful? He becomes a fucking martyr. Whomever they would select to replace him would win in a landslide. Biden only stands a chance against TRUMP.

Exactly my concern. That’s why it’s best to leave the guns at home and let nature take its course. The only way to beat someone like him is to beat him. Killing him only turns him into something of mythic proportions for his base.

 

[Ants!]

You know what happens if the assassination is successful? He becomes a fucking martyr. Whomever they would select to replace him would win in a landslide. Biden only stands a chance against TRUMP.

I'll take it. I don't want a Republican president, but as long as it's not Trump then at least there's a chance they might not try to dismantle our entire democracy. After Trump a somewhat sane rightwinger would almost be a relief.

 

[Mark]

I'll take it. I don't want a Republican president, but as long as it's not Trump then at least there's a chance they might not try to dismantle our entire democracy. After Trump a somewhat sane rightwinger would almost be a relief.

There wouldn’t be a sane one after him for a while at least… you could almost guarantee someone would try to avenge him at this point, and that could prove even more dangerous.

 

[MC74]

You know what happens if the assassination is successful? He becomes a fucking martyr. Whomever they would select to replace him would win in a landslide. Biden only stands a chance against TRUMP.

Precisely what would happen, and who's to say the one replacing him isn't just as dangerous as he is? Key thing to remember is there are more people out there than Trump who fall in line with those policies.

 

[Ants!]

There wouldn’t be a sane one after him for a while at least… you could almost guarantee someone would try to avenge him at this point, and that could prove even more dangerous.

I think Trump was pretty much reaching a floor with how dangerous a candidate can be. Where else is there to go after everything he's done? And even if someone attempts to be as crazy as him, they might not be as successful with getting away with it. Again, I find this a favorable outcome over Trump himself winning.

 

[Crystal]

Congrats, we now have our Palpatine moment.

 

[Ants!]

Precisely what would happen, and who's to say the one replacing him isn't just as dangerous as he is? Key thing to remember is there are more people out there than Trump who fall in line with those policies.

Guaranteed crazy versus roll the dice crazy. At least rolling the dice gives us odds of a sane person.

 

[shortkut]

You know what happens if the assassination is successful? He becomes a fucking martyr. Whomever they would select to replace him would win in a landslide. Biden only stands a chance against TRUMP.

Not necessarily. Most other republicans don't have his charisma, celebrity status, name recognition, or ability call himself a DC outsider

 

[Jon]

You know what happens if the assassination is successful? He becomes a fucking martyr. Whomever they would select to replace him would win in a landslide. Biden only stands a chance against TRUMP.

Not sure about this. Just like the Dems, Trump hasn't even selected a VP yet. There is just as little succession plan in the Rep party as the Dems. The Dems can and will unite with whomever is their candidate. The Reps only unite around Trump because of fear of what he can do politically. Do you think Vance, Scott, Burgam or Rubio have the clout or the pull to follow in Trump's shoes? Not a chance.

He can be a martyr all he wants, his death leaves a vacuum for Reps worse than Dems, because the Dems aren't fractured within their own party. There's moderate Reps and MAGA Reps. And they'd each vie for the next piece of the pie.

 

[Ants!]

Eww how do I end up being on the same side as shortkut

 

[shortkut]

Guaranteed crazy versus roll the dice crazy. At least rolling the dice gives us odds of a sane person.

Trump surrounds himself with psychopaths. His replacement might at least get people qualified to do their jobs

 

[Mark]

I think Trump was pretty much reaching a floor with how dangerous a candidate can be. Where else is there to go after everything he's done? And even if someone attempts to be as crazy as him, they might not be as successful with getting away with it. Again, I find this a favorable outcome over Trump himself winning.

I agree that he’s reached the lowest point he could, but in the realm of politics, rarely does the glass ceiling get breached… but that rock bottom sure keeps getting deeper. I’d almost rather see him go naturally, fade off into obscurity like he almost did before his reality television career kicked off. Having him killed in a public fashion like this would immortalize him, and set the stage for a whole generation of politicians that want to follow in his footsteps, carry on his legacy, or whatever other way they want to wrap it up.

 

[shortkut]

Eww how do I end up being on the same side as shortkut

You know my side of the bed is better… also we are both libtards

 

[Jon]

I agree that he’s reached the lowest point he could, but in the realm of politics, rarely does the glass ceiling get breached… but that rock bottom sure keeps getting deeper. I’d almost rather see him go naturally, fade off into obscurity like he almost did before his reality television career kicked off. Having him killed in a public fashion like this would immortalize him, and set the stage for a whole generation of politicians that want to follow in his footsteps, carry on his legacy, or whatever other way they want to wrap it up.

Oh I would too, but I feel the same for Biden. I don't wish death on anyone. Again, I believe in karma. But if both these men died peacefully in their sleep tonight, America might have a shot.

That and Thomas and Alito being impeached.... >.>

 

[Crystal]

 

[Ants!]

NPR covered this for less than an hour before going back to the usual weird 1950s doo-wop music they play on Saturday evenings.

 

[shortkut]

Oh I would too, but I feel the same for Biden. I don't wish death on anyone. Again, I believe in karma. But if both these men died peacefully in their sleep tonight, America might have a shot.

That and Thomas and Alito being impeached.... >.>

No one on trumps side would believe he wasn’t poisoned or something

 

[shortkut]

NPR covered this for less than an hour before going back to the usual weird 1950s doo-wop music they play on Saturday evenings.

Proof it was a false flag event?

 

[Jon]

No one on trumps side would believe he wasn’t poisoned or something

Yes, but those nutjobs would believe the Earth is flat if he told them so. That's the effect of a cult.

Speaking of that... I ever tell you guys I worked with someone high up in the Waco Branch Davidian cult? That was awkward... especially when I became good friends with her son...

She was in the Netflix special recently too... That was fun. She was fired a week after that aired.

 

[Ants!]

Proof it was a false flag event?

Iunno. Just thought it was funny.

Anyways, we got 4 months to recover from this. One month until the convention. Maybe if Biden does drop out that will shake things up for the better, depending on who gets picked as replacement.

 

[MC74]

I agree that he’s reached the lowest point he could, but in the realm of politics, rarely does the glass ceiling get breached… but that rock bottom sure keeps getting deeper. I’d almost rather see him go naturally, fade off into obscurity like he almost did before his reality television career kicked off. Having him killed in a public fashion like this would immortalize him, and set the stage for a whole generation of politicians that want to follow in his footsteps, carry on his legacy, or whatever other way they want to wrap it up.

That's what worries me most. Trump becoming a martyr is more likely to strengthen the resolve of the conservative base than it is to fracture them. It gives them more reason to follow in the same footsteps.

 

[Mark]

Iunno. Just thought it was funny.

Anyways, we got 4 months to recover from this. One month until the convention. Maybe if Biden does drop out that will shake things up for the better, depending on who gets picked as replacement.

I honestly think Biden dropping out might be the only thing to spark the Dems enough to push past this…

That's what worries me most. Trump becoming a martyr is more likely to strengthen the resolve of the conservative base than it is to fracture them. It gives them more reason to follow in the same footsteps.

It’s a very real, tangible possibility that’s off in the big picture that we need to look at.

 

[MC74]

I honestly think Biden dropping out might be the only thing to spark the Dems enough to push past this…

At this point, I don't think they can push past this barring a miracle of sorts. The only thing left to do is cross our fingers and hope for the best.

It really does feel like one of those "in which all optimism dies" moments.

 

[Ancle Suck]

They just showed footage of the guy who was shot in the arm and a very pale man being carried by two people on live news. After reporting a man in the audience was killed. I really hope they didn't just show a dead shooting victim on live TV.

 

[Mark]

They just showed footage of the guy who was shot in the arm and a very pale man being carried by two people on live news. After reporting a man in the audience was killed. I really hope they didn't just show a dead shooting victim on live TV.

I saw that, and I’m afraid you’re right.