Zell Wolf Discussion Thread v2

[Tommy Boy]

I'm still not sure if Cole is playing this way as a strategy or if he's still mildly upset from last game. NGL, I liked his long paragraphs and confident leadership style from the last game - this game feels like he's either not trying or he's playing two steps ahead of everyone. It just doesn't make sense that he has outside information when that isn't allowed in this game, only FQ's game. Maybe I'm missing something, but how can he have an alliance with someone if external communication is not allowed?

 

[Tommy Boy]

Hey we should all skip the rest of the day while Cole is still typing.

LMFAO like 5 of them skipped after this HAHAHA what the hell is going on

 

[Tommy Boy]

If Coleman actually has useful info, a huge LOL at everyone right now. I still can't tell if he's yankin everyone's chain or has an elite subplot going on in the background.

 

[A Punched Face]

Hilarity ensues.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Welp, LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

 

[A Punched Face]

Not sure why Cole being the Gunner should be surprising at this point. He literally said the Gunner was on his side and knew it, and there was only one way for that to happen

Also it's what I was assuming when no one was taking the shot yesterday, but I had no way to verify it (it also could have been TD, for instance)

 

[Tommy Boy]

Gunner couldn't shoot Cole because Cole is gunner LOLOLOLOL no wonder why he DMed me like "bruh what doing" lmfao. Wow what a game. Everyone is fucked up right now. Round of applause for Cole when he reads this eventually. Stellar showing. Dude is too good at this game.

 

[A Punched Face]

Yeah I wanted to call out that he wasn't playing this game salty in a more public way. Like I said earlier, he was changing up his style, a smart move for both this and future games.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Yeah I now see that there was no salt and he was just changing up his style, which is a perfectly valid strat. I 100% used the water as a way to stop the dragging of info, though. And would probably be alive if he said something sooner. BUT - I should have waited, though. I just didn't want to die before being able to use my power, I figured I'd be an easy target for wolves this game next night phase. I just hope it doesn't get to the point where everyone is always worried about him every game. He said it best - 14 pages of discussion about him when he barely said shit, and then ends up eliminating the fool for the village. That's prime as fuck, can't deny it. Next game the best strat should be to ignore him but that won't work either lol.

 

[Tommy Boy]

I think I'm just bad at this game.

 

[A Punched Face]

I think I'm just bad at this game.

Lmao I think when you're signed the priest role you become worse than you normally are

 

[Zell 17]

@Ryan! tough luck bud

 

[Ryan!]

I figured it was gonna happen. I thought Cole might be the Gunner which is why I was pushing so hard to convince everyone he absolutely wasn't the Fool (because duh) and that he was the RK and we had to get him. Putting the idea in their head through repetition to lead to a vote.

Should have pulled the trigger on it earlier. No pun intended.

This role is tough when there's a guaranteed day killer that can snuff you.

 

[Zell 17]

Yeah I think for fool you either want to come out guns blazing and force a shot on a townie day 1 (I'm spirit seer and Cole and Alu show RED). Or try to just hide until the gunner is gone.

Either way the fool needs the evils to do damage if order for the village to risk voting unprovens. If they have a bunch of bullets and information they can just wait.

 

[Zell 17]

Of course, the two people you call evil might be the priest and gunner. In that case you still eat a bullet.

 

[Ryan!]

So I have my predictions on who I think people are, but with the Medium getting to chat with us during the night I don't think it's kosher to say it out loud. Unless @Zell 17 says that's okay.

 

[A Punched Face]

So I have my predictions on who I think people are, but with the Medium getting to chat with us during the night I don't think it's kosher to say it out loud. Unless @Zell 17 says that's okay.

He said any info we gained during the posts itself, as opposed to our abilities, is fine to share in here. That's why I'm still holding off on who I saw last night and what it came back as, but writing up a little about the actual gameplay so far.

I think I've interpreted that correctly.

 

[Zell 17]

You don't have any privileged knowledge so say whatever you want. Once it's nighttime anyone can say whatever they want for the rest of the game (I'm going to have Benzine's permissions adjusted so he won't be here during the day).

 

[Ryan!]

So I fully believe shortkut isn't a Wolf. I do think he's doing a false role claim as a second Aura Seer and us actually the RK. I think our Wolves, as far as I can see, are Warp, Fool's Requiem, and Vash. No idea on the fourth. Maybe Dean, but I can't get a read on him. I think TD is the Spirit Seer. He knew I wasn't a Wolf, so he most likely read me last night and I came up as blue.

Tried to work it to my advantage and pin RK on Cole to get him killed. Paints myself as the RK and hopefully they lynch me. Should have waited for kut to post first and have Cole shoot him instead, then made my push accusing TD so no one believed he was Spirit Seer and I win.

 

[A Punched Face]

Just as a note, TD is a VERY experienced wolf player from the old days. He also has good intuition, so it could have been some other way to come up with what he did.

Also, shortkut is claiming canadaguy is an aura seer, not himself.

 

[Ryan!]

Just as a note, TD is a VERY experienced wolf player from the old days. He also has good intuition, so it could have been some other way to come up with what he did.

Also, shortkut is claiming canadaguy is an aura seer, not himself.

Right, I misspoke. Canadaguy isn't outright saying it, he's just making it seem like he is and kut latched onto it. I'm not fully convinced that's what he is, but I could be completely wrong.

 

[A Punched Face]

And Cole's latest post is agreeing with what I was saying about before about the gunner outing themselves on Day 1 when the wolves potentially have a berserk.

It worked out and got an enemy of the town gone, but now there's a chance more than one person tries to protect him, the wolves berserk, and multiple townies die.

 

[Ryan!]

Technically if the town wins this I think I get a point in the standings anyway, so I might as well go pro-town

 

[Ryan!]

So if I actually am right, I wonder if kut tries to kill canadaguy tonight and it fails, which leads them to believe a protection was used, and leads a lynch storm against him tomorrow. Or they just use a berserk, assuming they have one, and waste it

 

[Zell 17]

Technically if the town wins this I think I get a point in the standings anyway, so I might as well go pro-town

Other way around. You get a point if evils win.

 

[A Punched Face]

Other way around. You get a point if evils win.

uh oh here come new theories on how Ryan believes the game should proceed.

 

[Ryan!]

uh oh here come new theories on how Ryan believes the game should proceed.

So, the wolves should keep canadaguy alive, assuming I am correct. He can help wipe out any remaining townies. Their best options right now are TD or Ants, assuming he isn't one of them. It takes off a bit of Cole's suspicion and throws him for a loop. They absolutely should not kill Cole tonight, by any means. He can control a crowd, and they can attempt to give him false leads to lead a lynch storm.

 

[A Punched Face]

Only 5 more hours until I get to share what I found out like 40 hours ago.

 

[Ryan!]

Only 5 more hours until I get to share what I found out like 40 hours ago.

I'm intrigued

 

[A Punched Face]

lol Cole had added suspicion on shortkut because he didn't know of the newly added feature that lets you know who posted and how much in each thread.

 

[Zell 17]

I mean if shortkut went through that thread and manually counted Cole’s posts it doesn’t make him evil. It makes him insane.

 

[A Punched Face]

I mean if shortkut went through that thread and manually counted Cole’s posts it doesn’t make him evil. It makes him insane.

Almost like he changed into some sort of post counting animal who couldn't keep himself from doing things the rest of us would consider crazy...

 

[Benzine]

I'd love to see some of these people play wolf in real life.

 

[Benzine]

Not sure why Cole being the Gunner should be surprising at this point. He literally said the Gunner was on his side and knew it, and there was only one way for that to happen

Acting and saying mean nothing. It's just happens to be the case. It's as surprising as anything else. The entire point of the game.

 

[A Punched Face]

Acting and saying mean nothing. It's just happens to be the case. It's as surprising as anything else. The entire point of the game.

I dunno, to me it made it perfectly obvious when added to the fact that s different Gunner didn't shoot him

 

[Benzine]

Believing is fine, but I feel like I'm watching people believe too hard over these two games. It's going well anyway, so don't stop believing (everyone, not you specifically), I guess.

 

[Benzine]

I'm excited to hopefully just say "Cole, kill x" tomorrow. Don't let me down!

 

[Ryan!]

I'm excited to hopefully just say "Cole, kill x" tomorrow. Don't let me down!

I made a write up of my thoughts. Then I realized I get a point if you guys lose. So feel free to ignore it. I could also just be wrong. On canadaguy especially. If he isn't the RK, then I don't know who is.

 

[Benzine]

I already read that post and know that even if it was true, I wouldn't use it (today). No worries.

 

[Ryan!]

I mean, I'm pretty convinced TD is your Spirit Seer. He dropped enough clues to lead me that way. He's worth protecting if you want to win. If canadaguy actually is a second Aura Seer, then I'm unsure about the RK. Maybe look at whoever was jumping on my Cole is the RK kill him play. Kut is almost certainly a baddie. Whether a Wolf or RK I don't know. I thought canadaguy went with my Kill Cole rant too quickly, which made me think he's actually the RK and was getting heat off of himself. Dean is busy, so I have no clue on him. Raposa has been pretty silent, which is shady.

 

[A Punched Face]

Believing is fine, but I feel like I'm watching people believe too hard over these two games. It's going well anyway, so don't stop believing (everyone, not you specifically), I guess.

I mean that's fair. I go a long way back with Cole (which is how I knew his play this game wasn't him being salty). He wouldn't make a statement like that if it were very easily proven wrong - aka if he says there isn't a chance the gunner will take him down, then there's a good reason for that. There are too many priest wannabes out there that would take the shot. And making a definitive statement that was then basically instantly disproven would be a bad play for future games.

 

[Ryan!]

And I genuinely think Vash is a Wolf and is taking suspicion off of himself being the reasonable one. He might be the Seer and checked TD and knows who he is. He was pretty quick to lump in with him and defend him. Could be a play to lower suspicion. TD isn't high on anyone's radar, except when I tossed one out at him and almost no one bit. They could keep TD alive and get Vash to align with him so he never gets checked.

 

[A Punched Face]

@Zell 17 you said starting tonight we can just share whatever information we've gathered right? Because Benzine will be locked out during the day otherwise?

3 hours and 20 minutes til I make a useful statement.

 

[Benzine]

I mean that's fair. I go a long way back with Cole (which is how I knew his play this game wasn't him being salty). He wouldn't make a statement like that if it were very easily proven wrong - aka if he says there isn't a chance the gunner will take him down, then there's a good reason for that. There are too many priest wannabes out there that would take the shot. And making a definitive statement that was then basically instantly disproven would be a bad play for future games.

All good and makes sense.

And I genuinely think Vash is a Wolf and is taking suspicion off of himself being the reasonable one. He might be the Seer and checked TD and knows who he is. He was pretty quick to lump in with him and defend him. Could be a play to lower suspicion. TD isn't high on anyone's radar, except when I tossed one out at him and almost no one bit. They could keep TD alive and get Vash to align with him so he never gets checked.

My hunch is this too, not just cause he came at me. I think Vash could easily think that Cole won't enjoy me complimenting him, and will stir that pot for a direction. Surely they won't lynch from this position... Then, if the wolves think the same as I think Vash might think, they could work on targeting me tomorrow... Hopefully info from Alu is helpful, and I can spin that around. That's my hunch and stretch play right now, anyway.

 

[Benzine]

Came at me with a joke emoji, I mean. Impactful stuff, ya know.

 

[Ryan!]

@aura seer I just read through the thread and saw your one post. No offense meant. I needed to draw as much suspicion on Cole as possible to try and get him killed so I could get lynched for being an obvious baddie, most likely the actual RK trying to get suspicion taken off of me.

 

[A Punched Face]

@aura seer I just read through the thread and saw your one post. No offense meant. I needed to draw as much suspicion on Cole as possible to try and get him killed so I could get lynched for being an obvious baddie, most likely the actual RK trying to get suspicion taken off of me.

Lol no worries. I was basically talking to myself at that point and was bored.

 

[Ryan!]

Pretty sure I know what info you found, but will stay silent because I follow rules.

 

[Benzine]

Message it to Alu, that'd be fine since you're not gonna talk to alive people, surely.

 

[A Punched Face]

Pretty sure I know what info you found, but will stay silent because I follow rules.

I mean I feel like you're allowed to guess, I just can't confirm anything. Everyone has been guessing at what I've found anyway.