Zell Wolf Discussion Thread v1

[Ryan!]

I think they keep Cole around to enjoy the show. They got two of the big roles. The two witches have a protect, but they almost have no clue who the Wolves are, so they may just keep protecting the wrong people.

If they're smart they go for Tommy tonight and get rid of that threat entirely. But if I'm right and Dean is the Gunner, I think he might be the next target.

 

[Tubby23]

Yeah, they keep Cole. Cole being as smart as he is and posting regularly means that if townies aren't keeping up it's easy to lose the wolves amongst everything else.

I think Dean dies tonight unfortunately, Tommy may get lynched yet tomorrow which if he does well played

 

[Ryan!]

Well, called the Dean death. Figured him for the Gunner, but special townie with a similar role works, too.

 

[Ants!]

Okay. Wow. The wolves pretty much deserve to lose at this point.

 

[Ryan!]

Okay. Wow. The wolves pretty much deserve to lose at this point.

I don't get why they didn't take out Tommy. Or Vash. Kat is probably gonna be their next target, unless I've completely misread the situation.

 

[Ants!]

I don't get why they didn't take out Tommy. Or Vash. Kat is probably gonna be their next target, unless I've completely misread the situation.

The fool is valuable to them. But why the hell would they not take out the seer? And now Vash scored a direct hit. J9 you hit the battleship.

 

[Ryan!]

So it's Killface and Jawneh, then

 

[Ants!]

He got killface, no point in hiding that now. Not giving clues to the last one though.

 

[Ryan!]

Vash was most likely protected. Would have been a risk, but a Berserker kill would likely have netted you two people.

 

[Tubby23]

Killface and Alu????

 

[Ants!]

Vash was most likely protected. Would have been a risk, but a Berserker kill would likely have netted you two people.

Exactly. Literally the only downside I saw is if the protectors saw it coming and didn’t bother with the seer.

 

[Ryan!]

Alu might be playing 5d chess, but I'm not sold on him being the Wolf. I don't think it's Kat at all. She was quick to pick up my lie and she's been laying low enough that she might actually be the Gunner, since I was technically wrong on Dean but correct in his role working similarly. Dean was also laying low enough and gathering info to see who would be a worthy kill with one of his shots, which I think was a smart play.

 

[Ryan!]

So is Killface your Shaman or Zerker?

 

[Ryan!]

Also holy shit, Tommy might actually win this entire game

 

[Tubby23]

Has Killface been active at all, ex Wolves? @Fire Queen @Ants!

 

[Ants!]

Honestly, I feel like I’ve said too much already. Because I guess it’s technically possible that he could have lied his way out of it, although I do not see that happening at all in this game.

 

[Tubby23]

He ain't getting out of that once kut and Cole post

 

[Ants!]

Has Killface been active at all, ex Wolves? @Fire Queen @Ants!

He was inactive, even in the wolf chat. Day 1 it was mostly me and the last unknown wolf doing all the talking while he and FQ didn’t say much.

 

[Ants!]

I’m just glad Zelle allowed the game to be sped up now

 

[Tubby23]

That's a shame, especially in a everyone has a role game

 

[Tubby23]

Can't wait for Tommy to come in and post something inflammatory

 

[Ryan!]

He was inactive, even in the wolf chat. Day 1 it was mostly me and the last unknown wolf doing all the talking while he and FQ didn’t say much.

So I was right. Jawneh hasn't been posting much in thread because he's been posting in Wolf chat.

 

[Ryan!]

Can't wait for Tommy to come in and post something inflammatory

At this point I'm kinda rooting for him because it would be hilarious.

 

[Tubby23]

So I was right. Jawneh hasn't been posting much in thread because he's been posting in Wolf chat.

Or Alu

 

[Tubby23]

At this point I'm kinda rooting for him because it would be hilarious.

I'd love to see it just because of the way the game has played but I genuinely think you did enough to bring a lot of suspicion to him being the Fool that it won't happen.

 

[Ants!]

Dang yall weed information out of everything! I’m just going to shut up now. Lol

 

[Tubby23]

If they do what Kut just said we are in the end game nearly anyway

 

[Ants!]

At this point I'm kinda rooting for him because it would be hilarious.

The more I think about it, the more this is the outcome I’m rooting for.

 

[Tubby23]

Same, it would be the most fun. If we knew less of everyone's roles then I'd be rooting for town win

 

[Ryan!]

Dang yall weed information out of everything! I’m just going to shut up now. Lol

I mean, I'm a Psychiatrist

 

[Zell 17]

@Dean Welcome to purgatory

 

[Ryan!]

Hi Dean. I knew you were a townie. Had FQ not done what she did you were gonna be my night protect, hoping to set up a kill of the most suspicious person.

 

[Ryan!]

Also if Killface is your Berserker, which I'm pretty sure he is given the lack of activity, you guys are boned. They take him out, Cole and Holly can coordinate who they protect and just weed our the last Wolf through attrition. Not using the Berserker kill on Vash last night was such a huge mistake.

 

[Fire Queen]

that one might be on me, my last suggestion before dying was to keep vash around because it might make him look suspicious but it backfired big time

way better at running these games than playing them lol

 

[Ants!]

Also if Killface is your Berserker, which I'm pretty sure he is given the lack of activity, you guys are boned. They take him out, Cole and Holly can coordinate who they protect and just weed our the last Wolf through attrition. Not using the Berserker kill on Vash last night was such a huge mistake.

They are boned, regardless.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Tommy winning would be absolutely hilarious.

 

[Ryan!]

If he takes a huge stab in the dark, role claims actual third townie, gets the other townie killed, he can get himself the win either today or tomorrow.

 

[Ryan!]

If Tommy claims Spirit Seer, says whoever he's gonna guess (I'm thinking Alu) killed someone last night, the town gets rid of them, he has a huge target on his back and can get lynched.

 

[Ryan!]

Although, if I'm right and the Gunner is Kat, she may be a better target. He has to get rid of the Gunner so they can't just day kill him and end it immediately. He needs to get himself lynched tomorrow

 

[Tubby23]

Yeah it has to be tomorrow, they've barely mentioned him today so he will slip through

 

[Zell 17]

Let's look at potential paths. There are 4 knowns. That leaves 5 unknowns. One is the gunner, who can randomly shoot any of the 4 remaining unknowns.

Gunner blasts away. If they get the fool, great. Lynch all other unknowns and end the game. If they get the wolf shaman, don't vote and re-check everyone with perfect information. End game the next day. If they shoot the wolf berserk, same thing since the shaman can't be used when solo. Only if they manage to 1/4 the one remaining villager might they have an issue, and only if that villager doesn't have an ability (like loudmouth or avenger) that can reveal/take out another player.

But let's say that happens. The wolves have to kill the gunner that night, anything else leads to a guaranteed loss (gunner shoots a wolf or fool the next day and village lynches the remaining / checks the remaining with no shaman). Let's say the berserk goes awesome and a witch dies.

Now there is the detective, aura, wolf shaman, wolf berserk, fool, remaining witch. At this point the fool must extend the game by voting with the wolves and the game is probably lost for the town unless the fool is generous in a 1v1v1. To avoid that, the village should probably actually leave the gunner unprotected to maintain numbers. Doubt they come up with that though.

All that being said I give the evils maybe a 5% chance of scraping through.

 

[Ryan!]

If Tommy plays my strategy and correctly guesses the Gunner, I think he has a shot to win it all. I wish I could give him the strat, but I maintain the honor system.

 

[Ryan!]

Well that all fell apart. GG wolves, it was a losing effort once you didn't take out Vash or use the Berserk on Cole to get me and him night 2.

 

[Ryan!]

Also fucking well played, Kat. I dropped all suspicion of you after FQ's post. I got got.

 

[Zell 17]

@Cole
@Tubby23
@Fire Queen
@shortkut
@Tommy Boy
@Ants!
@Dean
@Ryan!
@Killface!
@Jawneh
@VashTheStampede
@Holly
@Fool's Requiem
@Benzine
@A Long Time Named Nipple
@Kat

Feel free to poke around

 

[A Punched Face]

This was a fun read - thanks for opening it up to us!

I find it funny that I was still suspected in here so much, even though I ended up being dead on with the wolves on Day 2, calling out both Killface and Kat as my prime suspects. You all must just think I'm a big ole liar.

 

[Kat]

Also fucking well played, Kat. I dropped all suspicion of you after FQ's post. I got got.

I was right about you lying about your role! I knew you weren't a wolf or fool so I kinda felt like I was going crazy, but now I feel vindicated. Well played to you too, it didn't even occur to me you were covering another townie role.

 

[A Punched Face]

I was right about you lying about your role! I knew you weren't a wolf or fool so I kinda felt like I was going crazy, but now I feel vindicated. Well played to you too, it didn't even occur to me you were covering another townie role.

Yeah you were spot on about Ryan lying about his role, even though he didn't need to be lying about it. That was a good call.

 

[Tommy Boy]

LOL GG wolves for seeing me on day 1. I'm surprised you didn't get rid of me sooner!

 

[Ryan!]

I was right about you lying about your role! I knew you weren't a wolf or fool so I kinda felt like I was going crazy, but now I feel vindicated. Well played to you too, it didn't even occur to me you were covering another townie role.

Best case scenario, you believe me and don't bother with the Berserk kill because you want to get the Doctor. Worst case scenario, you and Cole throw enough suspicion on me and it looks like it's intentional so you think I'm the Fool and ignore me. But yeah, good read on knowing I was lying.

I should have pushed harder on Day 2 and not dropped my suspicion. The reaction to my offense and accusation were what I was looking for, but FQ played me hard.