Zell Wolf Discussion Thread Game 4

[shortkut]

Or just put it on yourself and never remove it for self preservation

 

[Local Hero]

New wolf game, day phase 1 hour, night phase 10 minutes

 

[VashTheStampede]

Or just put it on yourself and never remove it for self preservation

Well we're about to see how that plays out.

 

[Tubby23]

I feel like with how short our games are (day-wise) you almost have to take a flier with your trap early and put it on someone else. That extra day for it to activate is a LOT when there's only 3-4 night phases.

That's why I had it on someone else.

 

[shortkut]

Well we're about to see how that plays out.

I hope benzine doesn’t go for FQ and tries to get FQ lynched tomorrow

 

[VashTheStampede]

That's why I had it on someone else.

Yeah but you had an extra night phase

 

[Tubby23]

Yeah but you had an extra night phase

Gee I must have looked guilty

 

[VashTheStampede]

Zell framed yo ass

 

[Zell 17]

Well guys all I can say here is the town is going to have chances

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[Tubby23]

 

[Smacktard]

the mad alchemist fucking did it again didn't he

 

[shortkut]

Well guys all I can say here is the town is going to have chances

Did kit kill benzine or did benzine attempt FQ?

 

[Zell 17]

the mad alchemist fucking did it again didn't he

And then some. Kit is trying what I think is an insane gambit. He’s black potioning Benzine and not handing out a red. He thinks he can talk the town into lynching FQ and win the resulting endgame.

 

[Tubby23]

Hope he can pull it off

 

[shortkut]

And then some. Kit is trying what I think is an insane gambit. He’s black potioning Benzine and not handing out a red. He thinks he can talk the town into lynching FQ and win the resulting endgame.

Is he going to claim a potion as well?

 

[VashTheStampede]

And then some. Kit is trying what I think is an insane gambit. He’s black potioning Benzine and not handing out a red. He thinks he can talk the town into lynching FQ and win the resulting endgame.

I love the idea and I hope it blows up in his face.

 

[Kat]

And then some. Kit is trying what I think is an insane gambit. He’s black potioning Benzine and not handing out a red. He thinks he can talk the town into lynching FQ and win the resulting endgame.

Ooo this is interesting, make it look like Kelly was telling the truth about the original potion. It just might work!

 

[VashTheStampede]

It's such a great play

 

[Zell 17]

I think the idea is he claims a potion OR says his trap was triggered. The sick thing is it might work, it’s not like FQ has any credibility here either.

 

[Zell 17]

Benzine hasn’t sent in any nights actions but I assume he’ll kill Alu like he said. So the next day will be FQ and Raposa pointing at each other and canadaguy with the weight of the world on his choice. Fun!

 

[VashTheStampede]

Benzine dues during the day, they lynch FQ, it's 2v1

Raposa tosses a black and red the next night, does he win by way of one of them being doomed?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Oh I forgot Benzine's kill

 

[shortkut]

Benzine hasn’t sent in any nights actions but I assume he’ll kill Alu like he said. So the next day will be FQ and Raposa pointing at each other and canadaguy with the weight of the world on his choice. Fun!

What happens if everyone votes and says skip early? Does the lynch happen before the potion?

 

[Smacktard]

And then some. Kit is trying what I think is an insane gambit. He’s black potioning Benzine and not handing out a red. He thinks he can talk the town into lynching FQ and win the resulting endgame.

This is way more likely to blow up in his face than a 50-50 vote with FQ as arbiter.

 

[Zell 17]

What happens if everyone votes and says skip early? Does the lynch happen before the potion?

Potion will kick in when enough skips come in. Potion won’t be skipped

 

[shortkut]

Damn, we lose

 

[Zell 17]

This is way more likely to blow up in his face than a 50-50 vote with FQ as arbiter.

Yeah no doubt especially since they already tried to vote Benzine so it seems like town made up their mind in favor of going wolves first. But hey I just want the games to be interesting and this will be interesting at least

 

[shortkut]

If I were Kit, I would have given Alu the black potion and then tried to have FQ lynched. After that, black potion CG and he wins

 

[Smacktard]

If I were Kit, I would have given Alu the black potion and then tried to have FQ lynched. After that, black potion CG and he wins

Benzine already telegraphed who he was going to kill to ensure the Alchemist didn't double up his kill. It would've given them both a 50-50 chance of winning. I don't think there's any chance of Raposa winning now, there's no way that canadaguy buys it.

 

[Kat]

Ooo this is interesting, make it look like Kelly was telling the truth about the original potion. It just might work!

Nevermind, I just woke up, obviously this doesn't get rid of the doubt about the lack of potions while Kelly was jailed. IDK what I was thinking

 

[Smacktard]

To beat a dead horse:
Benzine in the morning: hey so I received a potion. I may or may not die so let me say it now: Raposa is the alchemist. If I die, vote him out so townies can win.

End game.

He already mentioned that townie win would be preferable the RK win so I'm not sure what the end game is here, unless it's to just show as much chaos as possible.

 

[Zell 17]

yeah I mean if I was a werewolf I would hate Raposa here. It’s insane to me the town may still have a chance to pull this out.

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[shortkut]

A plan that started with your actions. You may have saved the town!

 

[Local Hero]

What's happening lol

 

[VashTheStampede]

I think we can all agree that if the town loses its solely canadaguy's fault

 

[Local Hero]

And then some. Kit is trying what I think is an insane gambit. He’s black potioning Benzine and not handing out a red. He thinks he can talk the town into lynching FQ and win the resulting endgame.

I don't even understand

 

[Smacktard]

yeah I mean if I was a werewolf I would hate Raposa here. It’s insane to me the town may still have a chance to pull this out.

me rn

 

[Kat]

Maybe the real problem with the balance in this game is the RKs always fucking over the wolves.

 

[Zell 17]

Kinda crazy to think there have been zero games where the RK has killed more villagers than evils.

 

[Zell 17]

Something I think I'm gonna do is add one point in the standings for the person who I think is the MVP of the winning team. Solos would be ineligible. It's subjective of course, and better roles have more opportunity to be MVP (but they also have more opportunity to doom their team).

Now I need to go back and determine MVPs for the last three games.

 

[Zell 17]

Or maybe the winning team could vote their MVP

 

[Kat]

Or maybe the winning team could vote their MVP

I'd let everybody vote for someone on the winning team. The opponents will know best what foiled them.

 

[Kat]

Although in this game I'd vote Kelly and they're not even going to win.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I think you can be MVP without winning, personally, but it shouldn't be super common.

 

[Zell 17]

I think you can be MVP without winning, personally, but it shouldn't be super common.

Trying to get a MVP for burning the village down??

 

[VashTheStampede]

Trying to get a MVP for burning the village down??

Honestly no, but I'd take it

 

[Zell 17]

Game 3 would be the hardest for me to retroactively award to a villager. Probably Benzine because he had a successful save on an unusual target and had good votes.

Game 2 is clearly Cole. Game 1 is less obvious but probably also Cole.

 

[Zell 17]

F it let's do it, standings updated. Game 4 you guys can decide.