Zell Wolf Discussion Thread Game 4

[VashTheStampede]

Gonna be funny when someone gets a ringing bell badge before you

 

[shortkut]

@Benzine , I said it before and I’ll say it now, we’ll played and smart thing with regard to claiming the bell ringer

 

[Benzine]

FQ needs to remind cg that Kit didn't give potions the night jailed... That's all the evidence needed really.

 

[Mark]

Gonna be funny when someone gets a ringing bell badge before you

It is a thing now… so…

 

[VashTheStampede]

FQ needs to remind cg that Kit didn't give potions the night jailed... That's all the evidence needed really.

But Kelly claimed he did and the only person who had evidence to the contrary was a bell ringing wolf

 

[A Punched Face]

Gonna be funny when someone gets a ringing bell badge before you

What do you mean before the one true bell ringer?

 

[Zell 17]

Also it’s not like Kit’s potion-giving strategy has been super logical. Someone could argue “maybe he just didn’t feel like giving out any potions that day” and based on the potion history would that really feel like an outlier?

 

[Kat]

Also it’s not like Kit’s potion-giving strategy has been super logical. Someone could argue “maybe he just didn’t feel like giving out any potions that day” and based on the potion history would that really feel like an outlier?

Yeah, or that he picked Local, who was dead.

 

[A Punched Face]

Also it’s not like Kit’s potion-giving strategy has been super logical. Someone could argue “maybe he just didn’t feel like giving out any potions that day” and based on the potion history would that really feel like an outlier?

And actually the giving a potion to a known wolf is now a proven strategy for this RK (from what anyone who doesn't already know would think).

But cg just needs to not overthink it...which is extremely hard to do in this position.

 

[Tubby23]

CG has the fate of a whole town in his hands.

Also team, was I wrong to keep placing my trap on people other than myself? I know FQ has gone for their own protection from Day 1 which makes sense. But I never seriously contemplated protecting myself, is that stupid?

 

[Zell 17]

CG has the fate of a whole town in his hands.

Also team, was I wrong to keep placing my trap on people other than myself? I know FQ has gone for their own protection from Day 1 which makes sense. But I never seriously contemplated protecting myself, is that stupid?

You can trap yourself if you have maximum cred. But the only way for a BH to really prove themself is to trap a wolf and no wolf is going to knowingly attack a BH.

 

[VashTheStampede]

CG has the fate of a whole town in his hands.

Also team, was I wrong to keep placing my trap on people other than myself? I know FQ has gone for their own protection from Day 1 which makes sense. But I never seriously contemplated protecting myself, is that stupid?

Probably sounds really fuckin mental coming from me but you did what I would want all BHs to do

protect me

 

[Local Hero]

Fire Queen literally not realizing that Benzine was killed lmao

 

[VashTheStampede]

God I hope she's able to Mr Magoo her way to a victory

 

[Local Hero]

here’s my thinking: i can’t kill the alchemist at night with that trap but i can kill the last wolf with it. we vote the alchemist out today and hopefully get rid of the wolf tonight (or the next night. they’ve gotta attack me eventually)

going to bed, see y’all in the morn

OH WAIT LOL i missed several extremely important posts

all of my points stand. let’s get rid of the alchemist!

 

[VashTheStampede]

Fire Queen like "hm that's weird, I haven't seen Tubby in a while"

 

[VashTheStampede]

She's probably doing real life things with real life friends while we're obsessing over this silly game

She's a queen fr

 

[Zell 17]

Haha I love it. “Listen, I know who the Alchemist is, what the hells the matter with you?”

 

[Tubby23]

Just kill him already Queen

 

[A Punched Face]

lmao I honestly think FQ not noticing Benzine was dead at that point works in her favor. Like seriously, not paying attention enough to see that yet somehow able to play the RK until the end?

Also not knowing the person you killed is dead?

 

[A Punched Face]

"I couldn't have murdered the dead man! There isn't a dead man!"

"...you mean to tell me there's actually a dead man?"

 

[Local Hero]

Raposa only sending a potion to Benzine is actually legitimately confusing, which is making this decision so hard for Eric.

 

[A Punched Face]

But it also fits in with what we know so far about the RK. The play has been legitimately confusing

 

[Tubby23]

Where do we vote for MVP, because Raposa has to get it at this point

 

[Zell 17]

I’ll open a thread after the game. If Raposa wins there won’t be one (solo players get enough points, and by definition any solo win they are the MVP). If the town wins it will be a vote but I’ll push hard for canadaguy.

 

[Tubby23]

HE'S DONE IT!!!!

 

[A Punched Face]

Woo!

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Smacktard]

I'm so glad alchemist didn't win

Well done Benzine, you were aces this game. You may not have won the game... But you've won my heart

 

[Smacktard]

Also @Zell 17 , thank you so much for the effort and time you put into organizing these games. I don't think you get enough appreciation for what you do. It's easy for people on the outside to say "you could've done this or that better", but you've shown you really know this game better than probably anyone, and you truly have no stake in which group wins/loses. It's a lot of work and micromanagement you put into these games, and you do it for free. You're always available to answer questions, and your analysis helps people become better players. So thank you. Sincerely.

And thank you for giving us the chance to all fight and complain and hate each other and get upset with the results

 

[Kat]

CG has the fate of a whole town in his hands.

Also team, was I wrong to keep placing my trap on people other than myself? I know FQ has gone for their own protection from Day 1 which makes sense. But I never seriously contemplated protecting myself, is that stupid?

Not at all. Protectors should protect useful roles like jailer, gunner, priest. It keeps the wolves from going after the most powerful people. An exception would be if you did something to trick the wolves into attacking you.

 

[Kat]

Not that I've ever done anything particularly useful with my roles so maybe I'm not the best person to be giving advice.

 

[Tubby23]

 

[TD]

As a neutral observer:

This game was one of the most ridiculous and hilarious games that I have watched. The town had absolutely no business winning.

My hilarious/wtf moment: Day 3. The town literally went from saying Tubby was innocent, to knowing the two wolf identities, to believing Smacktard, to giving up on the two wolves and subsequently lynching Tubby.

Wild.

 

[TD]

Runner up hilarious moment: Raposa basically being like "fuck you wolves" and giving Benzine a potion.

 

[Smacktard]

As a neutral observer:

This game was one of the most ridiculous and hilarious games that I have watched. The town had absolutely no business winning.

My hilarious/wtf moment: Day 3. The town literally went from saying Tubby was innocent, to knowing the two wolf identities, to believing Smacktard, to giving up on the two wolves and subsequently lynching Tubby.

Wild.

Btw using the same logic that the previous day I had tried to use, but was then used against me.

"Okay I know Benzine is wolf but I know Tubby is alchemist so I'm going to vote him"
"NO."
"Okay we know Benzine is wolf but we think Tubby is alchemist so let's vote for him"
"Makes sense."

What a ridiculously hilarious game. I loved every minute of it.

 

[TD]

(Ahead: caps are for emphasis, not yelling)

This makes me feel a bit better because the ONLY reason I thought Tubby was guilty was because of the timeline not making sense.

I asked MULTIPLE TIMES if the timeline I set out was accurate and MULTIPLE TIMES he said it was when it could not be. By his timeline he made more night actions than there were nights to make those actions. I asked him to revisit the DMs to make sure.

This is what happens when I try to logic everything out without a Cole or a TD or a Warp to rely on to do that for me. Normally I just literally go on vibes and suspicion and honestly if I would have just done that, things would have gone much better as all my reads were solid. I knew kut was suspect. I knew Alu was suspect. I DAMN SURE knew Raposa was suspect. Just kept talking myself out of them due to the "logic" shit.

I felt really shitty last night after how things went down. I know I let my teammates down. To see people saying I "ruined" the game feels even worse. I am very sorry if my stupid bullshit negatively impacted people's enjoyment of the game. I know I can get overbearing and a bit extra. If I'm in future games I will try to tone things down tremendously.

Vash dude, don't be so hard on yourself. It's a game. As an outside observer, regardless of whether you were right or wrong it was refreshing as fuck to watch someone else try to lead the town.

 

[Ants!]

Not that I've ever done anything particularly useful with my roles so maybe I'm not the best person to be giving advice.

You took Ryan out of the game. I mean, he was a townie, but it was still an extremely useful thing to do.

 

[Ants!]

Btw using the same logic that the previous day I had tried to use, but was then used against me.

"Okay I know Benzine is wolf but I know Tubby is alchemist so I'm going to vote him"
"NO."
"Okay we know Benzine is wolf but we think Tubby is alchemist so let's vote for him"
"Makes sense."

What a ridiculously hilarious game. I loved every minute of it.

 

[A Punched Face]

Btw using the same logic that the previous day I had tried to use, but was then used against me.

"Okay I know Benzine is wolf but I know Tubby is alchemist so I'm going to vote him"
"NO."
"Okay we know Benzine is wolf but we think Tubby is alchemist so let's vote for him"
"Makes sense."

What a ridiculously hilarious game. I loved every minute of it.

Lmao don't give yourself too much credit on that one. Had tubby not had an impossible timeline he was working with it wouldn't have happened.

It did end up happening for sure, when it still should have been time to take it the wolves, but it was much more to do with the timing goof than what you did.

 

[Fire Queen]

that was fun

 

[A Punched Face]

Oh also your posting that day (Kelly) is what made me decide that if I had the choice I would have given the win to the RK instead of the wolves lol

 

[Smacktard]

Lmao don't give yourself too much credit on that one. Had tubby not had an impossible timeline he was working with it wouldn't have happened.

It did end up happening for sure, when it still should have been time to take it the wolves, but it was much more to do with the timing goof than what you did.

Sure but why were you questioning him so intensely in the first place?

 

[Smacktard]

Oh also your posting that day (Kelly) is what made me decide that if I had the choice I would have given the win to the RK instead of the wolves lol

I know I was annoying but ya gotta do what ya gotta do

 

[A Punched Face]

Sure but why were you questioning him so intensely in the first place?

Very first post of the day: let's not rush to closing this let's go fishing for information

"Bro why are you fishing for information from one of the 3 potential suspects?"

 

[A Punched Face]

Like honestly I was SO mad when it seemed like he was actually the RK with his timeline. I did not want you to be vindicated after your posts about how you were about to be.

 

[canadaguy]

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Ants!]

I don’t like Rick Flair but eh, why not.

 

[VashTheStampede]