Ben Wulf 1 - Day Phase #2

[shortkut]

So Alu and Jon. How's the plan to put me in jail with Quagmire or Benzine and giving me the gun? Could do Quagmire if you think I'm lying and Benzine is town. At worst, I'd be bad, but I kill a most like arsonist. Or I'm wolf and kill arsonist. Or I'm arsonist and kill a wolf. It's all good for the town.

And if I kill the arsonist in jail, I can splash the other to kill em.

Who would we lynch tonight?

 

[shortkut]

To clarify, I'm saying Alu is likely the Warden, which makes him, me, Christina and you the last town.

Your splash is a good way to try and take a HH target out safely.

A failed splash leads to his own death

 

[Jon]

So Alu and Jon. How's the plan to put me in jail with Quagmire or Benzine and giving me the gun? Could do Quagmire if you think I'm lying and Benzine is town. At worst, I'd be bad, but I kill a most like arsonist. Or I'm wolf and kill arsonist. Or I'm arsonist and kill a wolf. It's all good for the town.

And if I kill the arsonist in jail, I can splash the other to kill em.

I'm fine with it, but if you take out the wolf/arso with your splash then someone in jail, town wins and we don't need another day phase, no?

 

[Jon]

A failed splash leads to his own death

I'm saying if he is the priest, every single townie is known, and he can't miss.

 

[shortkut]

I'm fine with it, but if you take out the wolf/arso with your splash then someone in jail, town wins and we don't need another day phase, no?

If he splashes wrong and dies, then we are still left with a lot of unknowns

 

[Jon]

I'm saying if he is the priest, every single townie is known, and he can't miss.

If he splashes wrong and dies, then we are still left with a lot of unknowns

 

[Jawneh]

Who would we lynch tonight?

Oh yeah. Lynching.

We could also lynch one of Benzine or Quagmire and jail me with the other. This way we kill a bad dong, and even if they're not a bad dong, the two most likely candidates are in jail with Alu and can't do a thing. And they can decide to shoot one another if they want lol.

 

[Jon]

Shit, reverse the order of the quotes, but yes.

 

[shortkut]

I’m okay with that

 

[Jawneh]

Okay.

Personally, I'd like to lynch Quagmire so that I could shoot Benzine in jail.

 

[Jon]

@A Punched Face - I am personally of the belief the town is better served with Jawneh proving he is a priest. If he IS, then the 4 town roles are completely known and he cannot miss.

Do you agree with this, or do you feel a wait game and risk mis-lunching is a good idea?

@Christina - you too since you're more confirmed than even Alu at this point

 

[Jawneh]

he cannot miss.

I can only kill a wolf though. Otherwise, I am dead. Though that hardly matters for the game, but I'd like to live.

 

[Jon]

I can only kill a wolf though. Otherwise, I am dead. Though that hardly matters for the game, but I'd like to live.

Wait, priest can't kill solo's? That's fucked. Okay, I renege then.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

@A Punched Face - I am personally of the belief the town is better served with Jawneh proving he is a priest. If he IS, then the 4 town roles are completely known and he cannot miss.

Do you agree with this, or do you feel a wait game and risk mis-lunching is a good idea?

@Christina - you too since you're more confirmed than even Alu at this point

Yeah if he doesn't pick the wolf he still dies. That would make it a 3-3 tie between town and evils.

 

[Jawneh]

Wait, priest can't kill solo's? That's fucked. Okay, I renege then.

Yea. They're the only unholy beasts. Solo's are just murderous asshole people.

 

[Jon]

Gotcha. I was under the impression it killed all evils.

 

[shortkut]

Okay.

Personally, I'd like to lynch Quagmire so that I could shoot Benzine in jail.

I’d rather lynch benzine because the arsonist can’t do anything tonight, but a wolf can kill if we miss

 

[Jon]

I’d rather lynch benzine because the arsonist can’t do anything tonight, but a wolf can kill if we miss

But the way you're acting, I'm almost thinking you and Jawneh may be part of the Cupid team.

 

[Jawneh]

I’d rather lynch benzine because the arsonist can’t do anything tonight, but a wolf can kill if we miss

Alu will jail me with the other one, so no. Then I kill them in jail.

Even if I'm the arsonist or wolf, I couldn't do anything tonight. Once the bodies drop, I'd be lynched tomorrow from a lie.

 

[Quagmire]

... Okay then.

Everyone else then. How many of you believe kut to be the headhunter? If you do, we got a 50/50 chance of letting him win if you lynch me. It would be either me or Christina as his target.


I would be the last town lad. So between Benzine, kut, and Quagmire we got the two bad dongs and seemingly headhunter.

Though I am more likely to believe kut over Quagmire, as the ol' Q came in late to copycat the same answer. I do not know which one between Quagmire and Benzine is wolf or arsonist though.

Can't help it the day opened after my old man bed time

 

[Jawneh]

Can't help it the day opened after my old man bed time

Just ask Ben to drop the gun to me after like 1 hour in jail.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

Just ask Ben to drop the gun to me after like 1 hour in jail.

Why would the timing of the gun drop matter?

 

[Jawneh]

Why would the timing of the gun drop matter?

Arbitrary number. Dealers choice. Preferably sooner rather than 5 seconds before day start lol.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

Arbitrary number. Dealers choice. Preferably sooner rather than 5 seconds before day start lol.

I mean why would I delay it at all?

 

[shortkut]

I mean why would I delay it at all?

Keep them on their toes

 

[Jawneh]

I mean why would I delay it at all?

Oh. You don't have to. For some suspense, I suppose?

 

[shortkut]

It would be funny if Alu jails arsonist and werewolf and they decide not to use the gun

 

[Jawneh]

It would be funny if Alu jails arsonist and werewolf and they decide not to use the gun

We could do that. We'd forgo the lynch today.

Though they can decide not to shoot each other to try to have any chance of a W. Not sure if there'd be any chance though, but they're forced to cooperate to survive longer.

 

[shortkut]

But we could still lynch benzine for funs

We could do that. We'd forgo the lynch today.

Though they can decide not to shoot each other to try to have any chance of a W. Not sure if there'd be any chance though, but they're forced to cooperate to survive longer.

 

[Jawneh]

But we could still lynch benzine for funs

... but Benzine is either a wolf or the arsonist. In the "jail the two evils" scenario the only person to lynch today then would be you, but what if you're the fool? No reason to chance that.

 

[shortkut]

... but Benzine is either a wolf or the arsonist. In the "jail the two evils" scenario the only person to lynch today then would be you, but what if you're the fool? No reason to chance that.

So your thought is to skip a lunch?

 

[Jawneh]

So your thought is to skip a lunch?

In that scenario. It's only a "for the lulz" scenario and I don't actually think we should do it.

It's just the idea that a wolf and arsonist in jail with a gun sounds fun. But like I said, they can choose not to use the gun and we go longer. I could then miss my splash the next day. Whatever else shenanigans.


The best scenario is really to lynch either Benzine or Quagmire (my preference is Quagmire), I get jailed with the other one, and I'm given the gun to shoot them. At worst, if I lie about anything, I'm lynched tomorrow. Town wins.

 

[Jon]

You all may be ignoring the Cupid possibility.

I am not.

 

[Jawneh]

You all may be ignoring the Cupid possibility.

I am not.

I was too, but if we kill the wolf and arsonist, town is declared the winner before cupid things can happen. And considering it's really between me, Benzine, and Quagmire for the evils, we don't even got to worry about that. The evils are dead anyways tonight.

 

[Jon]

I was too, but if we kill the wolf and arsonist, town is declared the winner before cupid things can happen. And considering it's really between me, Benzine, and Quagmire for the evils, we don't even got to worry about that. The evils are dead anyways tonight.

You say that, but I'm not discounting Kut being Cupid. He's clamored for it for so long saying he'd have the perfect strat for it.

Claiming HH with an alive target is a great way to keep people off you. Add in that you and he have been in lockstep it's hard to imagine you not being a part of that and STILL being who you say you are. If Christina is the other member, the town is in trouble already.

 

[shortkut]

In that scenario. It's only a "for the lulz" scenario and I don't actually think we should do it.

It's just the idea that a wolf and arsonist in jail with a gun sounds fun. But like I said, they can choose not to use the gun and we go longer. I could then miss my splash the next day. Whatever else shenanigans.


The best scenario is really to lynch either Benzine or Quagmire (my preference is Quagmire), I get jailed with the other one, and I'm given the gun to shoot them. At worst, if I lie about anything, I'm lynched tomorrow. Town wins.

I’d rather lynch benzine because I think benzine is wolf and quagmire is arsonist

 

[shortkut]

You say that, but I'm not discounting Kut being Cupid. He's clamored for it for so long saying he'd have the perfect strat for it.

No, I have the perfect stray for HH. I am just the best Cupid. Those are facts

 

[shortkut]

@canadaguy i am the best Cupid because the game I was Cupid is there only one that did not lead to toxic backstabbing

 

[Jawneh]

You say that, but I'm not discounting Kut being Cupid. He's clamored for it for so long saying he'd have the perfect strat for it.

Claiming HH with an alive target is a great way to keep people off you. Add in that you and he have been in lockstep it's hard to imagine you not being a part of that and STILL being who you say you are. If Christina is the other member, the town is in trouble already.

It doesn't really matter who kut is. If we're confident that he's any of the solo voters, we can now ignore him. We know the only other suspects then are me, Benzine, and Quagmire. Like I said, once the wolf and arsonist are dead the game ends. Doesn't matter if there's a cupid and the couple alive. The town wins.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

@canadaguy i am the best Cupid because the game I was Cupid is there only one that did not lead to toxic backstabbing

False. There were two games without this and in both instances I was part of the cupid couple.

 

[shortkut]

@canadaguy , I am sure. If you want to comment, maybe you should have tried staying alive

 

[shortkut]

False. There were two games without this and in both instances I was part of the cupid couple.

People were unhappy your second game, but I guess you’re right, it wasn’t toxic

 

[A PineSol Scent]

Okay, so we have two people claiming headhunter, two people claiming townie roles.

One potential headhunter is claiming his target is down, the other that his target is Christina. @Christina - what is your role. If it's one that cannot be a headhunter target then we know kut is lying.

 

[Christina]

So much reading.

If am kut's target, why not just give up completely when CG cleared me. Nobody is going to lynch me and a wolf eating me does a headhunter no good.

Alu is proven, because there are 4 string roles. Jones, Vash and Local 100% proven. Nobody has showed or is claiming the 4th. Alu is golden.

7 regular. Tommy, dimmer, Kat, CG, Deadbody, Christina, leaving 1 spot open.

What townie claims headhunter right now? So Kut and Quagmire are for sure wolf, solo types.

Leaving today to be a fight between Jawneh and Benzine.

If Jawneh is a priest he can't be a HH target. He can also prove himself before the lynch. I find it weird he is pushing to be jailed gunman tonight. Sounds like an arsonist or wolf with nothing else to do.

 

[shortkut]

Okay, so we have two people claiming headhunter, two people claiming townie roles.

One potential headhunter is claiming his target is down, the other that his target is Christina. @Christina - what is your role. If it's one that cannot be a headhunter target then we know kut is lying.

She would have said that earlier when she thought she was my target

 

[shortkut]

If am kut's target, why not just give up completely when CG cleared me. Nobody is going to lynch me and a wolf eating me does a headhunter no good.

Because I don’t know how the violinist works and I was holding out the slimmest of hopes that the arsonist would kill enough of the town that the wolves would pile on you and I could win. After the arsonist killed fools and the number of wolves dropped to 1, then I announced myself

 

[A PineSol Scent]

So much reading.

If am kut's target, why not just give up completely when CG cleared me. Nobody is going to lynch me and a wolf eating me does a headhunter no good.

Alu is proven, because there are 4 string roles. Jones, Vash and Local 100% proven. Nobody has showed or is claiming the 4th. Alu is golden.

7 regular. Tommy, dimmer, Kat, CG, Deadbody, Christina, leaving 1 spot open.

What townie claims headhunter right now? So Kut and Quagmire are for sure wolf, solo types.

Leaving today to be a fight between Jawneh and Benzine.

If Jawneh is a priest he can't be a HH target. He can also prove himself before the lynch. I find it weird he is pushing to be jailed gunman tonight. Sounds like an arsonist or wolf with nothing else to do.

If he picks wrong as a priest he dies and there would only be 3 townies remaining to 3 evils, granted we'd be easily able to guarantee one of them going down tonight, but if that one isn't the wolf, then it would be 2-2 tomorrow. The wolf wouldn't play nice and kill the HH target via lynch, in fact there likely wouldn't be a lynch again at that point.

 

[Jawneh]

Leaving today to be a fight between Jawneh and Benzine.

If Jawneh is a priest he can't be a HH target. He can also prove himself before the lynch. I find it weird he is pushing to be jailed gunman tonight. Sounds like an arsonist or wolf with nothing else to do.

I can splash today. I said it earlier that I'd only want to live if possible. And to shoot Benzine in jail.

If what it takes to believe me 100% is for me to splash and die then I can do it.

The worst case from me splashing and failing, in the event that Quagmire is the wolf and not Benzine, is that if there's a cupid here, that's a 3 people voting block. If one of the evils join them, they can lynch a townie and potentially roll from there. I'm not analyzing all that as there's no reason to go that far.

 

[shortkut]

I can splash today. I said it earlier that I'd only want to live if possible. And to shoot Benzine in jail.

If what it takes to believe me 100% is for me to splash and die then I can do it.

The worst case from me splashing and failing, in the event that Quagmire is the wolf and not Benzine, is that if there's a cupid here, that's a 3 people voting block. If one of the evils join them, they can lynch a townie and potentially roll from there. I'm not analyzing all that as there's no reason to go that far.

Shit, I didn’t think about the evil siding with team love

 

[shortkut]

If he picks wrong as a priest he dies and there would only be 3 townies remaining to 3 evils, granted we'd be easily able to guarantee one of them going down tonight, but if that one isn't the wolf, then it would be 2-2 tomorrow. The wolf wouldn't play nice and kill the HH target via lynch, in fact there likely wouldn't be a lynch again at that point.

So should we kill today or wait until the result of your jailing?