Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf Version X: "I wanna be a blitzball" Day 1

[Zell 17]

Its just like any other lynch vote except private. It can be changed.

 

[Dean]

 

[TD]

I think if the wolves lynch TD today it proves they are amateurs

 

[Tubby23]

 

[TD]

 

[Tubby23]

The furry faced fuckers can die

 

[Smacktard]

@Benzine @Tubby23
Good morning. What'd I miss?

 

[Dean]

The furry faced fuckers can die

 

[Benzine]

@Benzine @Tubby23
Good morning. What'd I miss?

i am working and you can catch me up when you've been caught up

 

[Tubby23]

@Benzine @Tubby23
Good morning. What'd I miss?

Not a whole lot, a group of names have been thrown out there to vote for so that the wolves don't control the game. I have thrown up Jumpman, yourself and Jawneh as ideas to start but have voted for Jumpman. Other names mentioned have been TD and also shortkut by yourself.

We also had a protracted discussion about whether Kat and Vash were faking being muted. Kat subsequently posted but Vash hasn't as yet, though has replied to me in another thread so I'm guessing there is some truth to it (I'm not sure anymore whether I am allowed to use that information or not)

 

[Kat]

We also had a protracted discussion about whether Kat and Vash were faking being muted. Kat subsequently posted but Vash hasn't as yet, though has replied to me in another thread so I'm guessing there is some truth to it (I'm not sure anymore whether I am allowed to use that information or not)

I think it's fair. We all know he knows the game started. Whether he's really muted or not is anybody's guess, but it's safe to assume he'll claim it tomorrow.

Which is more likely: they muted a random townie to give them better odds enough of us won't vote together to outvote them, or a wolf is pretending to be muted on a day when we can't tell if he voted or not?

If I were a wolf, I'd do the latter. The chances of us actually agreeing and voting together are already slim, and even if we do, we're likely to go after a townie anyway.

We need to pick somebody soon. I'm not going to be awake when the day starts, that's 7 am here.

 

[Tubby23]

I think it's fair. We all know he knows the game started. Whether he's really muted or not is anybody's guess, but it's safe to assume he'll claim it tomorrow.

Which is more likely: they muted a random townie to give them better odds enough of us won't vote together to outvote them, or a wolf is pretending to be muted on a day when we can't tell if he voted or not?

If I were a wolf, I'd do the latter. The chances of us actually agreeing and voting together are already slim, and even if we do, we're likely to go after a townie anyway.

We need to pick somebody soon. I'm not going to be awake when the day starts, that's 7 am here.

I also agree that the latter remains more likely than a random muting. Especially when the shadow was then used. Of course a Librarian could have gone rogue and it is a coincidence, but I tend not to believe in coincidence.

I maintain that Jumpman is a good vote and also feel that if they had a good reason not to be dead we would have had a proper reasoning put forward.

 

[Smacktard]

Which is more likely: they muted a random townie to give them better odds enough of us won't vote together to outvote them, or a wolf is pretending to be muted on a day when we can't tell if he voted or not

Being muted or not doesn't matter, does it? Can't he can vote via PM?

In the description it says "thread banned" -- does that mean Vash can't even see this thread?

We need to pick somebody soon. I'm not going to be awake when the day starts, that's 7 am here.

That's why I tried to get the ball rolling early on shortkut -- I knew wolves would play interference and force a failure on the town.

Kat, I recommend you do the following: pick a name -- any name -- especially someone you think is sus -- and say you're voting for them, and that we either vote with you or lose a guaranteed townie OR the RK which may put the wolves on the path to victory.

Just don't pick me because people think I'm the fool already.

I'm down if you are.

 

[Kat]

I maintain that Jumpman is a good vote and also feel that if they had a good reason not to be dead we would have had a proper reasoning put forward.

I'm not against that plan. I didn't find him too suspicious to begin with, but his reactions to being called out aren't inspiring confidence.

If Vash is muted and a townie, then all of us have to vote together to outvote the wolves. Assuming I'm doing my math correctly.

 

[Jawneh]

@Jawneh
How you feeling about the upcoming night

Should be an easy one. I've managed to conjure enough sus on me that maybe all the baddies will also leave me alone for the time being.

 

[Zell 17]

Muted players cannot vote / votes do not count. Thread banning is a tool I use for muted players, they can read the thread.

 

[Kat]

Being muted or not doesn't matter, does it? Can't he can vote via PM?

In the description it says "thread banned" -- does that mean Vash can't even see this thread?

I believe Zell said they can't vote. They can still see the thread.

 

[Smacktard]

I'm not against that plan. I didn't find him too suspicious to begin with, but his reactions to being called out aren't inspiring confidence.

If Vash is muted and a townie, then all of us have to vote together to outvote the wolves. Assuming I'm doing my math correctly.

Almost. 10 townie votes vs 8 wolf votes. We also have RV and RK who don't want to end up dead, presumably, and will probably vote with the town. RV less likely than RK, but still

 

[Kat]

Almost. 10 townie votes vs 8 wolf votes. We also have RV and RK who don't want to end up dead, presumably, and will probably vote with the town. RV less likely than RK, but still

Is that subtracting Vash?

I don't want to pick a name. that's so much pressure!

 

[Tubby23]

Almost. 10 townie votes vs 8 wolf votes. We also have RV and RK who don't want to end up dead, presumably, and will probably vote with the town. RV less likely than RK, but still

Right lets get this bandwagon started, vote for Jumpman

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Kelly, you're the headhunter, right? Who's your target?

 

[Jawneh]

I'm going with voting Jumpy. I'd be okay with what Kat chooses, but since Kelly chose the person to choose i shall abstain from that.

 

[Kat]

@GwJumpman anything to say in your defense before we bandwagon on you?

 

[TD]

Should be an easy one. I've managed to conjure enough sus on me that maybe all the baddies will also leave me alone for the time being.

Sounds good, hopefully I'll be here with you tomorrow.

 

[Acolyte Players]

Why would a random muting be unlikely? Voodoo has unlimited uses and it makes it all the more likely that no information can come (may just randomly hit a seer) and even less likely for everyone else to be able to vote together.

Random uses of powers are weird when there's a limit or if it's likely to be detrimental somehow (e.g. a random librarian mute is likely bad, whereas a random voodoo mute is likely good).

 

[Dean]

Why would a random muting be unlikely? Voodoo has unlimited uses and it makes it all the more likely that no information can come (may just randomly hit a seer) and even less likely for everyone else to be able to vote together.

Random uses of powers are weird when there's a limit or if it's likely to be detrimental somehow (e.g. a random librarian mute is likely bad, whereas a random voodoo mute is likely good).

What are the odds of a Voodoo Wolf in this game? Would it be as simple as 4/13? 4/15?

@VashTheStampede you there?

 

[Smacktard]

Is that subtracting Vash?

I don't want to pick a name. that's so much pressure!

But since you've been nominated, you won't be held under scrutiny for a wrong pick.

Right lets get this bandwagon started, vote for Jumpman

Who decided on gwjumpman and why?

Kelly, you're the headhunter, right? Who's your target?

I am, and in an expert 7D quantum chinese checkers move, I selected Gwjumpman as a target.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Random uses of powers are weird when there's a limit or if it's likely to be detrimental somehow (e.g. a random librarian mute is likely bad, whereas a random voodoo mute is likely good).

That's why I wanted the Librarian to come forward if one existed. If nobody did, I would only assume there's 100% a voodoo wolf. If a Librarian muted a random number on night 0,

 

[Smacktard]

Also I don't support lynching Vash today. It makes sense for them to use a voodoo wolf and then try to strongarm the town into a lynch victory.

 

[Tubby23]

But since you've been nominated, you won't be held under scrutiny for a wrong pick.

Who decided on gwjumpman and why?

I am, and in an expert 7D quantum chinese checkers move, I selected Gwjumpman as a target.

I did. Initially because he was the most suss to me as I haven't played with him but something felt off. Subsequently has hasn't provided any real thoughts or defense to that. Ideally we would kill a wolf, but if we can't then a townie that won't contribute much would be better than a power role.

 

[Benzine]

I had so much work to do that I worked 25 minutes later than I needed to, what's going on @Smacktard

 

[Dean]

I'm gonna have to go to sleep soon. I'll check early tomorrow to see if there is a consensus.

 

[Benzine]

I am also about to leave go play basketball

 

[Tubby23]

Also I don't support lynching Vash today. It makes sense for them to use a voodoo wolf and then try to strongarm the town into a lynch victory.

Vash has also just made a post in another thread saying he is dealing with some things so it would feel mean. As such I have rest my accusations of Vash

 

[Benzine]

The day opens before I wake up so... I hope people are willing to vote for who I end up voting for tonight. I'll go wit hthe consensus but if people are going to bed now we'll have to commit!

 

[Dean]

Jumpman hasn't been online for 15 minutes, according to his profile anyway, which is literally a minute before Kat asked him if he had a defense.

Assuming he is Eastern Time, he might be on early in the morning, but it would be too late to try to lynch by then.

Did he hint at what role he has? I might try to sift through his posts to see.

 

[Smacktard]

I had so much work to do that I worked 25 minutes later than I needed to, what's going on @Smacktard

What's going on is that:
Me nominating someone based on vibes = bad
Someone else nominating someone based on vibes = good

But that's why I think we ought to nominate @Kat to choose someone based on vibes, rather than counting on one of our own to wilfully choose a lynch target

 

[Smacktard]

Jumpman hasn't been online for 15 minutes, according to his profile anyway, which is literally a minute before Kat asked him if he had a defense.

Assuming he is Eastern Time, he might be on early in the morning, but it would be too late to try to lynch by then.

Did he hint at what role he has? I might try to sift through his posts to see.

Having or not having a defense on Day 1 literally means nothing. What would your defense be other than "It isn't me"?

 

[Dean]

Having or not having a defense on Day 1 literally means nothing. What would your defense be other than "It isn't me"?

I guess that's true. I just didn't know if he claimed or hinted at a role and what type if so.

 

[Acolyte Players]

What are the odds of a Voodoo Wolf in this game? Would it be as simple as 4/13? 4/15?

@VashTheStampede you there?

It's 4 chances to hit 1/13 odds.

Basically it's the same odds that any wolf role shows up.

 

[Tubby23]

Having or not having a defense on Day 1 literally means nothing. What would your defense be other than "It isn't me"?

He could have literally provided anything in the 6+ hours after I said I'd vote for him but didn't. Wouldn't even have to be much.

You're moving your way into a solid second here and also making me more confident in my Jumpman vote.

 

[Jawneh]

What's going on is that:
Me nominating someone based on vibes = bad
Someone else nominating someone based on vibes = good

But that's why I think we ought to nominate @Kat to choose someone based on vibes, rather than counting on one of our own to wilfully choose a lynch target

For me it was that the vibes I got from you weren't super good, so I went with the person that gave me better vibes that I got from you.

Still all vibes based. Weirdly too complicated as well.

 

[Dean]

Only thing I could find is Jumpman kind of targeting Kelly, saying he might be the Headhunter or the Fool.

Is Kelly trying to get rid of Jumpman because Jumpman accused him? Or vice-versa?

The closet thing to a hint from Jumpman had to do with him saying he was quiet last night and hiding. Does that fit a role?

 

[Tubby23]

Only thing I could find is Jumpman kind of targeting Kelly, saying he might be the Headhunter or the Fool.

Is Kelly trying to get rid of Jumpman because Jumpman accused him? Or vice-versa?

The closet thing to a hint from Jumpman had to do with him saying he was quiet last night and hiding. Does that fit a role?

Kelly is defending Jumpman

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Dean]

Kelly is defending Jumpman

Well, fuck, I don't know lol

 

[Kat]

Why would a random muting be unlikely? Voodoo has unlimited uses and it makes it all the more likely that no information can come (may just randomly hit a seer) and even less likely for everyone else to be able to vote together.

It's not that I think a random muting is unlikely. It makes sense to do it. But I also think they don't need to do it, so it's a good opportunity to give one of the wolves some cover. It could go either way.

I dunno, if I had to pick based on my own vibes, I'd say Kelly. I don't have a defense for Jumpy, but I don't know him well enough to know if he's being suspicious or just himself.

 

[Acolyte Players]

Only thing I could find is Jumpman kind of targeting Kelly, saying he might be the Headhunter or the Fool.

Is Kelly trying to get rid of Jumpman because Jumpman accused him? Or vice-versa?

The closet thing to a hint from Jumpman had to do with him saying he was quiet last night and hiding. Does that fit a role?

I think he was saying he was trying to hide from any potential murderers at opposed to hinting at a role.

 

[Kat]

The closet thing to a hint from Jumpman had to do with him saying he was quiet last night and hiding. Does that fit a role?

I took it as "all innocent villagers were cowering in their homes from the wolves". Which obviously isn't true.

 

[Smacktard]

Kelly is defending Jumpman

More accurately, I'm defending against a random pick by another player who seems to have just taken my idea but said "no mine", as I mentioned would happen here:

ok good night town, I love you

I look forward to waking up tomorrow to see My Plan rebranded as Someone Else's Plan

I will lol heartily if that Someone Else ends up being the headhunter