Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 3

[TD]

You helped me think Raine was sus. Your hands aren't clean from that one. Let's just take that L and move on.

Okay. Okay. I can live with that.

Let's get back to basics. Surely there's at least one or two wolves hiding amongst the ones that did end up voting for her (and didn't switch once Shirley Temple showed up). Maybe we start digging there.

 

[finlandguy]

Okay. Okay. I can live with that.

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You forgot your name off that list that you moved off within the last minutes. It was there.

 

[TD]

You forgot your name off that list that you moved off within the last minutes. It was there.

It was not minutes. It was hours.

 

[TD]

Other votes:

 

[VashTheStampede]

I am going to be watching a movie with

so I'll be back later tonight.

 

[TD]

You forgot your name off that list that you moved off within the last minutes. It was there.

2 hours and 15 minutes before the phase ended.
Nice try to frame me though.

GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 2

That's it!? That's all your gonna give? Who is THEY? The town, because we'll win regardless of who dies along the way anyway. :chuckle Exact same questions here. That only reads to me as "Raine = corrupter" and "wolves are voting for her but it won't help them win" which would potentially...

gwforums.com

 

[shortkut]

What would killing Dean do?

You left him off the list.

Kill a townie

 

[TD]

Kill a townie

...buuuuut also a wolf maybe?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Okay. Okay. I can live with that.

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Probably at least a wolf or 2 among:

Tommy boy, Benzine, Dean, local, Kelly, and Jon...

Which doesn't really help much considering there are 8 unproven roles and that's 6 people

 

[TD]

I still am not a fan of how Dean was basically holding us hostage and openly willing to kill a townie.

There's no way he's that spiteful right? HAS to be Wolf Avenger? If he's even that..

 

[finlandguy]

2 hours and 15 minutes before the phase ended.
Nice try to frame me though.

Means nothing when you've already switched your vote around today twice without saying anything. Just because that was the last time you announced it doesn't mean it's the last time you moved your vote. Not like you mentioned voting Dean after that 2h 15m mark either.

 

[TD]

Switching my vote to Dean unless something better comes along.

 

[shortkut]

...buuuuut also a wolf maybe?

Yes

 

[shortkut]

...buuuuut also a wolf maybe?

Yes

But also a wolf maybe could be added to everyone else

 

[TD]

Means nothing when you've already switched your vote around today twice without saying anything. Just because that was the last time you announced it doesn't mean it's the last time you moved your vote. Not like you mentioned voting Dean after that 2h 15m mark either.

I switched to Dean when I said that and I never came off. In fact, right around that post is when I was talking to her about her target too.

 

[TD]

I got a feeling with it being Friday night into Saturday morning it might not get too active.

I'll be playing Worms with the wife for a bit and I'll check in later.

 

[shortkut]

I missed when we went back to Dean as the lynch target

 

[finlandguy]

I missed when we went back to Dean as the lynch target

It was thanks to Kelly bring up the idea of killing Dean and using Dean's avenger to kill Kelly. Local immediately jumped on it without explaining anything more than that. Not sure if Vash said anything today about it. And TD is orchestrating most of this while bouncing between Dean, Kelly, or no vote depending on what people are saying.

 

[TD]

It was thanks to Kelly bring up the idea of killing Dean and using Dean's avenger to kill Kelly. Local immediately jumped on it without explaining anything more than that. Not sure if Vash said anything today about it. And TD is orchestrating most of this while bouncing between Dean, Kelly, or no vote depending on what people are saying.

I'm orchestrating this?

You want to twist the narrative?

How's this narrative, wolf?

Post in thread 'GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-zell-wolf-version-ix-day-2.1301/post-72919

Post in thread 'GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-zell-wolf-version-ix-day-2.1301/post-73098

 

[Local Hero]

It was thanks to Kelly bring up the idea of killing Dean and using Dean's avenger to kill Kelly. Local immediately jumped on it without explaining anything more than that. Not sure if Vash said anything today about it. And TD is orchestrating most of this while bouncing between Dean, Kelly, or no vote depending on what people are saying.

Honestly didn't feel like I needed to explain it. My vote was on Dean for just about all of yesterday because I thought he was a wolf. His threats of retaliating against a known townie was weak and I think we were all fools for switching to Raine. Myself included.

 

[finlandguy]

So, unless Tommy happens to pop around sometime soon today, there's a good chance there's also a voodoo wolf around. With the new wolf privacy settings I don't know if he's been around much today other than seeing this thread at some point.

Which brings an interesting dilemma for voting as it'll be 4 v 6. Or potentially 5 v 5 if the couple is voting with the wolves as they're in a more favorable situation currently. Ignoring the latter, it's not nearly as hard to convince one person to fix a tie or two to force a lynch on someone else. Then tomorrow they can voodoo again and lynch anyone and win.

 

[finlandguy]

I'm orchestrating this?

You want to twist the narrative?

How's this narrative, wolf?

Post in thread 'GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-zell-wolf-version-ix-day-2.1301/post-72919

Post in thread 'GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-zell-wolf-version-ix-day-2.1301/post-73098

Yeah? That's all I did yesterday too. And you conveniently left out the post where I said if I should vote Benzine again as it was 8 or 9 votes on Raine. And then I did.

 

[Jon]

I'm just catching up to this from only 2 hours ago when I stepped away...

Even players who started this day active and suddenly vanished.

Are you referencing me here? Because earlier I did choose to become a bit more of a spectator. I didn't like you continuing to prod me and play me as a wolf and I needed a breather. I didn't want to be in a long term pissing match. You lose sight of the bigger picture when you do and the reality is the bigger picture is I'm part of the town. What happens to me is secondary to the town winning. I still say I'm the clearest target for tonight. Which is going to suck losing a protector, but at least it provides you with a slightly clearer picture.

I still don't know who I'm voting for, but it will have to be tonight. And again, like last weekend, I'll have to forewarn you, I will NOT be around for the 9am deadline. So unless we skip tonight and start the next phase early, my vote when I log off for tonight will be FINAL because I won't be on early enough to change it.

The amount of bickering we've done in this game is how the wolves need it to win. Kat's game, I HAD to leverage it to try and pull off the win. But they still have 3-4 wolves. If we do NOT lynch one or catch one in an avenger kill, we almost sign away the chance.

So can we please, PLEASE stop dick measuring and work TOGETHER to come to a town consensus of most likely wolf to least likely, and vote together?

 

[TD]

Yeah? That's all I did yesterday too. And you conveniently left out the post where I said if I should vote Benzine again as it was 8 or 9 votes on Raine. And then I did.

You pushed us to lynch Dean.
Now you're against it.

You accused me of last minute vote changes.
I did not, but you did.

Don't miss your kill again, I want proof.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

So, unless Tommy happens to pop around sometime soon today, there's a good chance there's also a voodoo wolf around. With the new wolf privacy settings I don't know if he's been around much today other than seeing this thread at some point.

Which brings an interesting dilemma for voting as it'll be 4 v 6. Or potentially 5 v 5 if the couple is voting with the wolves as they're in a more favorable situation currently. Ignoring the latter, it's not nearly as hard to convince one person to fix a tie or two to force a lynch on someone else. Then tomorrow they can voodoo again and lynch anyone and win.

Hm. I completely forgot about the voodoo wolf as a role. Tommy has definitely looked at the thread, but hasn't posted or voted, and I know he hasn't reacted to any of my posts that I can remember.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

It would make sense to thread ban the person who can potentially get extra votes to their name.

 

[Jon]

It would make sense to thread ban the person who can potentially get extra votes to their name.

It would also be weird that this is the first time the voodoo wolf would have acted in three days. No one else was silenced in days one and two

 

[TD]

It would also be weird that this is the first time the voodoo wolf would have acted in three days. No one else was silenced in days one and two

Hypothetically they have 4 random wolves and we don't know what they do.

There is an advantage to that to keep us guessing and they could've chosen to not just use it because it's kinda niche but toss it on Tommy because of his charts.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

It would also be weird that this is the first time the voodoo wolf would have acted in three days. No one else was silenced in days one and two

True, in which case it would make sense to come up with an excuse for someone who isn't good at lying to stay out of the thread.

 

[TD]

Are you referencing me here?

General statement.

It got a lot quieter.

 

[Dean]

Dean has been suspicious to us every single day and he's  still here.

Let's go over all the real reasons I've been suspicious. Here's a list:


Alright, now that we've covered all that, let's talk about something useful.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Let's go over all the real reasons I've been suspicious. Here's a list:


Alright, now that we've covered all that, let's talk about something useful.

If you are an avenger, who do you have your target on now?

 

[Dean]

I looked earlier and Kelly had 5 votes, now I have 4. There are 10 pages of posts to read and I honestly can't be bothered. I still have Alu targeted because I think he's sus. Everybody's role claimed and several have been exposed. One reason I'm sticking with Alu is Tommy and maybe somebody else had me and him listed as possible Avengers. I know I'm the Avenger, so he is possibly Wolf Avenger, unless he role claimed something else that I missed.

 

[Dean]

I have A Subcontrabass Sax targeted, but I'll settle for A Subcontractor's Arse.

I'm open to suggestions. I honestly haven't even looked at all 10 pages yet.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I looked earlier and Kelly had 5 votes, now I have 4. There are 10 pages of posts to read and I honestly can't be bothered. I still have Alu targeted because I think he's sus. Everybody's role claimed and several have been exposed. One reason I'm sticking with Alu is Tommy and maybe somebody else had me and him listed as possible Avengers. I know I'm the Avenger, so he is possibly Wolf Avenger, unless he role claimed something else that I missed.

I was literally targeted by the wolves and saved by Vash's witch potion. Something that was revealed at the beginning of the day.

 

[Dean]

I was literally targeted by the wolves and saved by Vash's witch potion. Something that was revealed at the beginning of the day.

In my defense, I literally haven't read anything.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

In my defense, I literally haven't read anything.

Well in more fun news, after being revealed as a townie I revealed my role to be... Avenger.

 

[Dean]

Well in more fun news, after being revealed as a townie I revealed my role to be... Avenger.

I see where the witch killed Jumpman, who I was also suspicious of yesterday, for the record.

Listen, if you are an Avenger, then great. I am also a village Avenger. I don't even know why people are suspicious of me, but I will switch to another player who is likely a

I haven't kept up on the suspects, other than I saw Kelly had 5 votes at one point

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I see where the witch killed Jumpman, who I was also suspicious of yesterday, for the record.

Listen, if you are an Avenger, then great. I am also a village Avenger. I don't even know why people are suspicious of me, but I will switch to another player who is likely a

I haven't kept up on the suspects, other than I saw Kelly had 5 votes at one point

The people who are not officially proven to be something other than wolf:

You
TD
Benzine
Kelly
Jawneh
Jon
Tommy Boy
Local

 

[Dean]

Sorry, I am trying to get caught up but I haven't even eaten dinner yet. It's a bit overwhelming to come in and see 10 pages of shit to read.

I see Vash said he's the witch and protected you with his potion.

I'm going to try to do a spreadsheet or some notes. I don't work tomorrow, so I'll try to post something meaningful tonight, so you guys realize I'm not full of shit.

I know I haven't been trying very hard during this game. Vash called me a passenger, and I guess I am, and I'm sorry for that. I'll try harder since it's the weekend, but I do have a play to go to tomorrow night, a fundraiser on Sunday, and other family things in between.

 

[Jon]

Hypothetically they have 4 random wolves and we don't know what they do.

There is an advantage to that to keep us guessing and they could've chosen to not just use it because it's kinda niche but toss it on Tommy because of his charts.

While i understand this, I think it's more human nature in these kinds of games that if you're given a role with unlimited uses, you probably want to get the most out of them. I think voodoo wolf is unlikely as a result, and more likely @Tommy Boy has been busy... I hope... because the silence and the fact I pinged him in the afternoon when it seemed everyone forgot about him has caused me to elevate my suspicions on him dramatically.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

TD has made spirit seer reads that showed kut and Vash had not killed (proven accurate) and that Kelly and Local have not (not yet proven). Even if one or both of them is a wolf, so long as they are blind wolf or wolf seer, TD could still have accurate reads.

Benzine gave a clear read on Vash, and a read of "Raposa and Kelly are different teams"

Local outed kut as cupid.

 

[Dean]

@Tommy Boy made a spreadsheet but was pretty... Uncertain? Not confident? Idk. Not incriminating in and of itself, but maybe he's going through the motions to be convincing as a townie.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Also Jawneh claimed to have been nightmared last night. Jon has mentioned not having luck in any targets to be saved.

 

[shortkut]

It was thanks to Kelly bring up the idea of killing Dean and using Dean's avenger to kill Kelly. Local immediately jumped on it without explaining anything more than that. Not sure if Vash said anything today about it. And TD is orchestrating most of this while bouncing between Dean, Kelly, or no vote depending on what people are saying.

So the wolves are sacrificing Dean to take out their real target? Dean doesn’t have to publicly state his target, so it doesn’t have to be Kelly

 

[finlandguy]

You pushed us to lynch Dean.
Now you're against it.

You accused me of last minute vote changes.
I did not, but you did.

Don't miss your kill again, I want proof.

I'm not against Dean, I'm pro Kelly. We're getting more out of lynching Kelly than Dean.

Between the two of us, who here has radioed their vote changes whenever they have happened.

Considering Benzine has corroborated your seer info and Vash's role reveal, that's already proof enough to act on that other than one asshole move yesterday on a guy being voted with just feels and vibes. Especially when we were choosing between potentially two townies.

 

[Jon]

TD has made spirit seer reads that showed kut and Vash had not killed (proven accurate) and that Kelly and Local have not (not yet proven). Even if one or both of them is a wolf, so long as they are blind wolf or wolf seer, TD could still have accurate reads.

I will say this... blind wolf is feeling more and more likely to be a role.

They were able to knock off two strong villagers in nights one and two... which seems too much coincidence to believe it was lucky guesses on their part.

I'm starting to believe that TD is more likely town and both Kelly and Local are suspect as a wolf and provided false information to his check.

Where does it say the blind wolf and wolf seer would dodge the spirit check? Is it because they don't get a vote? I would assume they would still be shown as having killed because they are wolves?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I'm not against Dean, I'm pro Kelly. We're getting more out of lynching Kelly than Dean.

Between the two of us, who here has radioed their vote changes whenever they have happened.

Considering Benzine has corroborated your seer info and Vash's role reveal, that's already proof enough to act on that other than one asshole move yesterday on a guy being voted with just feels and vibes. Especially when we were choosing between potentially two townies.

I've been on "no vote" all day, so I've had nothing to telegraph to this point.

 

[Jon]

Also Jawneh claimed to have been nightmared last night. Jon has mentioned not having luck in any targets to be saved.

I also stated who I protected those nights. I've just guessed wrong.

 

[Jon]

I have not even placed a vote at all today.