Kat’s Wolf Wolf - fewer roles version - Day 4

[shortkut]

What do I get if both @Tubby23 and @shortkut (myself) are innocent townies?

 

[shortkut]

@Tommy Boy who do you want to vote for? Fool or Jon?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

What do I get if both @Tubby23 and @shortkut (myself) are innocent townies?

I would LOVE it if Tommy was wolf.

Would be funniest ending.

Tommy just sitting back laughing as all of us arguing amongst each other.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Tommy Boy who do you want to vote for? Fool or Jon?

It's 3v2 if Tommy goes with you, sir.

 

[Kat]

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Again, it was FQ's game, not Zell's rules, but I always figured Zell used his rules to mimic FQ's game.

Oh yeah, I totally forgot about that. Removing somebody after three days seems like it'd cause more problems than it'd solve, though. Hmm, I'll think about it for future games.

 

[shortkut]

It's 3v2 if Tommy goes with you, sir.

That’s fine. I would ask @VashTheStampede to abstain and let it be a coin flip. The wolves vs the townies or one wolf and defect and join me

 

[Tommy Boy]

Wonder if we see @Tommy Boy again today at all

Sorry, Sunday dumb stuff in the morning. I am here.

@Tommy Boy who do you want to vote for? Fool or Jon?

No idea, because I'm not sure who to trust besides Vash. You had defended me from the beginning which was an early unspoken alliance, but I can't decide on a vote. I think the vote Tubby strategy doesn't make sense for today so I'm glad we moved on from it. To be honest, I was going to vote for whoever Vash voted for. He's the only proven townie alive. I know I am who I say I am, and who Vash is, but that's it.

I would LOVE it if Tommy was wolf.

Would be funniest ending.

Tommy just sitting back laughing as all of us arguing amongst each other.

As epic and insane this would be, we all know by now there's no way I could pull this off, even in a game with lesser activity and seemingly less pressure. Gaslighting everyone the entire game would forever damage my reputation as being honest - no reason to deviate from my strategy now, or later.

 

[VashTheStampede]

unskip

to let things play out some more

 

[VashTheStampede]

I mean, just going from  vibes today, Jon is most sus to me.

but kut was mad sus to me yesterday and hasnt done much to allay those feelings today

weirdly the one I feel best about is Fool's, so we'll see who the real fool is shortly.

Also I find it amusing that his name is Fool's Requiem because i always associate the word requiem with Jon from the old e-fed days

 

[Fool's Requiem]

As epic and insane this would be, we all know by now there's no way I could pull this off, even in a game with lesser activity and seemingly less pressure. Gaslighting everyone the entire game would forever damage my reputation as being honest - no reason to deviate from my strategy now, or later.

I wanna live in the universe where you've been gaslighting everyone else for years by pretending to be an honest person only to unvail your scheme for a rando wolf game on a reboot of a defunct forum.

Tommy playing the loooooong con.

 

[Kat]

Two votes required to lynch. A tie results in no lynch. Current tally:

Jon - 1 by shortkut
Shortkut - 3 by FR, Vash, Jon
Note: move kut's vote to FR if FR doesn't vote Jon

Five votes required to skip.
Votes to skip - 2 by FR, Jon

 

[shortkut]

Two votes required to lynch. A tie results in no lynch. Current tally:

Jon - 1 by shortkut
Shortkut - 3 by FR, Vash, Jon
Note: move kut's vote to FR if FR doesn't vote Jon

Five votes required to skip.
Votes to skip - 2 by FR, Jon

How much time left in the day?

@Tommy Boy you need to make a move. If you vote me, I’ll skip so we can end the day. If you want to vote fool or Jon, I’ll vote with you and @VashTheStampede can abstain or make the final decision

 

[Tommy Boy]

I wanna live in the universe where you've been gaslighting everyone else for years by pretending to be an honest person only to unvail your scheme for a rando wolf game on a reboot of a defunct forum.

Tommy playing the loooooong con.

Seeing as I can't even get through a game of Fallout with evil karma, this would be crazy.

Okay, I'm currently torn between shortkut and Jon. shortkut supported my claim early on and had a jeweler claim early on, which I believed. I was one of the people that didn't really pick up Jon's hints, but I admit, I fully trusted him because he is my Hate Grubby24 Ambassador. So, I think I let my personal feelings block me from really reading into what's going on in this game. (Sorry Jon )

So I think I'm leaning toward Jon.

 

[Kat]

There are almost ten hours left in the day.

 

[shortkut]

There are almost ten hours left in the day.

Plenty of time left. I wonder why the wolves were in such a rush to end it

 

[VashTheStampede]

There are almost ten hours left in the day.

Hell yeah, that's like 9 more vote changes for me

 

[shortkut]

I have an idea:

1. We lynch Jon tonight
2. Vash shoots fool over night
3. If Vash dies from that action, Vash gets to vote as proxy for tubby and everyone can vote for me

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Vash already used both of his shots...

 

[shortkut]

Vash already used both of his shots...

Okay, then we just bludgeon you overnight with dull implements of destruction

 

[VashTheStampede]

Vash already used both of his shots...

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Okay, then we just bludgeon you overnight with dull implements of destruction

You mean, you'll bite my head off as a wolf.

 

[shortkut]

You mean, you'll bite my head off as a wolf.

I don’t know how wolves kill, I’m not a wolf… certainly is suspicious how you know exactly how you’d kill someone as a wolf

 

[VashTheStampede]

Easter chocolate bunnies think I'm a wolf apparently

 

[shortkut]

Easter chocolate bunnies think I'm a wolf apparently

Wolves eat bunnies, so they’re not far off

 

[shortkut]

@Tommy Boy it’s all down to you and Vash

 

[Tommy Boy]

I'm going to Vote Jon only because he reacted to my post rather than defend himself, and enough time has passed to get some sort of defense out. I hate voting for a homie, but a game is a game.

Jon, if you're not a wolf, I am indebted to you friend.

 

[Jon]

I'm going to Vote Jon only because he reacted to my post rather than defend himself, and enough time has passed to get some sort of defense out. I hate voting for a homie, but a game is a game.

Jon, if you're not a wolf, I am indebted to you friend.

I just didn't have anything to add is all. I've been watching the whole time.

At this point, I've said I'm voting with Vash because he's the only one I can fully trust, so i did that. I hear your reasoning, but there's nothing left to say that I haven't already. From the get I've tried outing wolves and the SK. I felt I accomplished that. If that's not enough, that's not enough anymore.

If there is something you need me to say to help you, i can try, but otherwise, I'm not sure what to say to defend myself to an opinion.

Either way, I still say...

Fuck Grubby. We cool, man.

 

[Jon]

I mean, I suppose what I can say is I, too, supported you very early on, and even though it wasn't picked up by anyone, I hinted at Farmer early on too. Otherwise, I was on Zell immediately and supported you with Benzine, even if he was the Priest, mainly because I trusted you from the past. After Vash, you're the second person I trust. Between Fool and Kut, I have significant sus about both of them, which is why I deferred to Vash.

 

[Tommy Boy]

I just didn't have anything to add is all. I've been watching the whole time.

At this point, I've said I'm voting with Vash because he's the only one I can fully trust, so i did that. I hear your reasoning, but there's nothing left to say that I haven't already. From the get I've tried outing wolves and the SK. I felt I accomplished that. If that's not enough, that's not enough anymore.

If there is something you need me to say to help you, i can try, but otherwise, I'm not sure what to say to defend myself to an opinion.

I guess I compare it to when I was the seer and had a lot riding on my back. I didn't have anything convincing besides my word, and I was adamant about telling the truth to the last moment. Not saying you aren't doing the same thing, and I appreciate the fact that you haven't gotten aggressive, but I'm having a hard time making a decision. That's the difference between your defense and Fool's defense. He is increasingly irritable whenever his baker claim gets questioned. You have been cool and collected and leaving it up to us to decide. Both are strategies for being guilty or innocent. I'm still not even 100% on shortkut.

Damn. Now I'm second guessing myself. shortkut is willing to vote with me in order to sway the vote. I hate having this much responsibility with little to no concrete information, but I have to decide.

Switching vote to Fools Requiem because with all the info combined, I think it's too sudden to skip. Despite being aggressive, which is not a fault, I think it's making me feel less confident in being the baker. Where FR said "no cake for you", I think I would have reacted aggressive in that moment, rather than later. Again, this is not a fault, I'm just trying to put myself in someone else's shoes and see how they have reacted to being accused. I had already voted for FR in the past and changed my vote off of it, which was a hiccup in Mafia. I think this time I have to leave my vote there.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Switching vote to Fools Requiem because with all the info combined, I think it's too sudden to skip. Despite being aggressive, which is not a fault, I think it's making me feel less confident in being the baker. Where FR said "no cake for you", I think I would have reacted aggressive in that moment, rather than later. Again, this is not a fault, I'm just trying to put myself in someone else's shoes and see how they have reacted to being accused.

He doubled down on his role claim. I think that's a fair response.

Whereas both you and Jon immediately lashing out at your accusers made me think "the lady doth protest too much, methinks".

 

[Tommy Boy]

He doubled down on his role claim. I think that's a fair response.

Whereas both you and Jon immediately lashing out at your accusers made me think "the lady doth protest too much, methinks".

It is what it is at this point. This game has proven that even with less roles, it can still become a shitshow where someone is ultimately lying to remain a believable townie. I RPd at the very beginning and pretty much fell out of character when I got accused. Out of baker, farmer, jeweler, and blacksmith - someone is lying. The only way someone could be lying about their powerless role claim is if they claimed only after Kat told everyone that we could have named roles that are powerless beyond farmer, or if someone claimed Farmer before that. I RPd as a blacksmith right out the gates (well, my first post was asking about the meta on who would go after Local first, but right after I did my RP). I guess I need to go back and take a better look at who said what and when it was said out of the four claiming the powerless roles.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Already I notice that shortkut, FR, and I all claimed our powerless roles on Day 1. When Jon was asked his role, he ignored it on Day 1.

Unvote Fools Requiem. Chart incoming after I get through Day 2 & 3.

 

[shortkut]

Already I notice that shortkut, FR, and I all claimed our powerless roles on Day 1. When Jon was asked his role, he ignored it on Day 1.

Unvote Fools Requiem. Chart incoming after I get through Day 2 & 3.

@VashTheStampede I plan to align my vote with @Tommy Boy both in self-preservation and to hopefully lynch a wolf. Once he makes his vote after his analysis, please consider that you would become the deciding vote if you choose to stay or switch your vote

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[shortkut]

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Day 1

Fool's Requiem Baker Tease - Day 1 Post 7 - My first post of the entire game.

Jon's "one of us" gif - Day 1, Post 30 - Posted after Benzine asked what his role was. It's a WOLF of Wall Street gif, but he claimed that it was him claiming townie.

kut's first post. Joke post about being Sparticus. Also voted Alu, who turned out to be good. Day 1, Post 44.

Tommy's Blacksmith post. Day 1, Post 48.
kut posting that he'll pay a body guard with jewels. Day 1, Post 49.

kut teasing jeweler again. Day 1, Post 69. (Nice)

Day 2

Jon post featuring Farmer Fran, stating he likes "football". Day 2, Post 30.
FR, "Piece of cake" post. Day 2, Post 51.

FR, "no cake for you" post. Day 2, Post 55.

Unrelated: Vash refusing to acknowledge if another Mafia game is coming.

Kat's note regarding powerless roles. Day 2, Post 89.

kut teasing jeweler again. Day 2, Post 91.

Jon making his "Farmer" claim more clear. Day 2, Post 106.
kut "pressure makes diamonds" response to Benzine. Day 2, Post 117.

Those are from the first two days. It's possible I've missed one or two, but that should be the important ones.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

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the real wolf was the friends we made along the way.

 

[Tommy Boy]

Based on going back and reading everything, twice, again - I think it's clear we have to vote for Jon today. Zell claimed to check CG and Jon and despite being evil, he still had a motive to win the game for himself. It's only logical to thin the wolves out if you know who they are. Jon avoided role claiming and typed out a giant paragraph why it's a bad idea, which in itself has been proven to be a bad idea in the past. No need to be direct on the claim, and I totally understand the desire to not want to do it, or feel cheap doing it. It is what it is. We've all been there before and had to make the decision at this crossroads for ourselves.

Fools claimed the entire way through just like I would have done, I see this now. Did not back down once. Sorry for voting for you before @Fool's Requiem - you were solid the entire time. Apologies for not catching it.

Jumpman confirmed someone was going after Tubby, so unless it was Zell that tried checking Tubby, Tubby should be clear and is likely our doctor or tough guy.

Voting Jon, final answer. Sorry bud.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Shit, dude, you put more effort into that than I did in my post.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Kat Pretend like you know nothing about the roles. IF Jon/kut are voted out and Tubby is the other wolf. What happens? If Tubby is wolf and remains inactive, there's obviously going to be no kill.

Edit: Nevermind.

 

[shortkut]

I don’t remember who I am currently voting for, but to make it official

Change vote to @Jon permanently

 

[Jon]

Jumpman confirmed someone was going after Tubby, so unless it was Zell that tried checking Tubby, Tubby should be clear and is likely our doctor or tough guy.

I've typed it up twice over the course of the game about how Zell could not have actually checked me and/or CG. I was proven correct when Jump was killed and proven to be the bodyguard. Zell was lying when he said he checked us. He checked Tubby against himself and jump saved him.

 

[shortkut]

@Kat Pretend like you know nothing about the roles. IF Jon/kut are voted out and Tubby is the other wolf. What happens? If Tubby is wolf and remains inactive, there's obviously going to be no kill.

@Kat don’t answer that unless it is ending the game. I suspect the remaining wolf won’t make a kill to point blame at tubby

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Kat don’t answer that unless it is ending the game. I suspect the remaining wolf won’t make a kill to point blame at tubby

i honestly didn't consider that, good point.

 

[shortkut]

i honestly didn't consider that, good point.

I pictured you doing that and then posting

“It couldn’t be any more obvious! Tubby can’t post and there was no night kill so it has to be him. Let’s vote tubby like I said before!”

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I pictured you doing that and then posting

“It couldn’t be any more obvious! Tubby can’t post and there was no night kill so it has to be him. Let’s vote tubby like I said before!”

I think you've confused me with Cole. Do you think I'm a dum dum or not?

 

[shortkut]

I think you've confused me with Cole. Do you think I'm a dum dum or not?

You’re definitely a dumdum, which is why you’d make it extremely obvious and we’d all see right through it

 

[Fool's Requiem]

You’re definitely a dumdum, which is why you’d make it extremely obvious and we’d all see right through it

I feel like I would keep my mouth shut in that case instead of asking that...

 

[shortkut]

I feel like I would keep my mouth shut in that case instead of asking that...

You were checking to see if you could

 

[Fool's Requiem]

You were checking to see if you could

I would have just messaged Kat, dude... (in PMs)