TGVGD The Great Video Game Draft (PS2 Draft)

[Jon]

I think it's fine given there's very little in the way of load times after that point. I find the story mode a fluid experience. Online less so, although that's more about the game design.

I don't play online. I do recall a bit of load stutter though. There really isn't a need to load the entire world at once. They could have managed asset loading better.

 

[dimmerwit]

I don't play online. I do recall a bit of load stutter though. There really isn't a need to load the entire world at once. They could have managed asset loading better.

They don't load the whole world at once. The initial load does load in the immediate area around the character but also sets up all of the AI routines and game scripts and initialises the game state. The world is still streamed in on the fly, and given that PS5 has about 100x the data throughput of the PS4 you shouldn't see any hitches on that version.

The best thing was a modder on the PC version cutting GTA Online load times by 70% because Rockstar couldn't code their game properly, although that only applied to the PC's online mode.

 

[Jon]

They don't load the whole world at once. The initial load does load in the immediate area around the character but also sets up all of the AI routines and game scripts and initialises the game state. The world is still streamed in on the fly, and given that PS5 has about 100x the data throughput of the PS4 you shouldn't see any hitches on that version.

The best thing was a modder on the PC version cutting GTA Online load times by 70% because Rockstar couldn't code their game properly, although that only applied to the PC's online mode.

Devs either love or hate the modder community. Some embrace it and leave their games to modders openly, like Larian Studios and Bethesda (for the most part) and others despise it and fight modders because it exposes their staff's crunch/shittiness... like Rockstar and EA.

 

[Ben]

I think the last time I played GTA Online was with @Tommy Boy and Vin in 2014...

Ow, my knees ache.

 

[Quagmire]

 

[Ben]

For the past 3 months, @Bandicoot has logged on an average of once every 13.5 days.

Last login was August 10th though, so... It's past noon on August 23rd. We're due for an imminent sighting.

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Kat]

For the past 3 months, @Bandicoot has logged on an average of once every 13.5 days.

Last login was August 10th though, so... It's past noon on August 23rd. We're due for an imminent sighting.

What's the variance in that average though?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Gonna throw another @Bandicoot tag and give him another 12 hours or so.

 

[Quagmire]

Gonna throw another @Bandicoot tag and give him another 12 hours or so.

How does it work if he doesnt show up? Next person drafts, and what happens when they draft and Bandicoot hasnt shown up? Does person after next need to wait x hours to see if Bandicoot shows back up or can they draft right away?

 

[VashTheStampede]

How does it work if he doesnt show up? Next person drafts, and what happens when they draft and Bandicoot hasnt shown up? Does person after next need to wait x hours to see if Bandicoot shows back up or can they draft right away?

Yeah, Bandi'll still get his normal 24 hour window.

 

[Ben]

What's the variance in that average though?

8.1875 days² or something like that, but I didn't do any of that math myself and just asked ChatGPT to do my homework. Not like Quagmire is grading me or anything.

 

[Quagmire]

8.1875 days² or something like that, but I didn't do any of that math myself and just asked ChatGPT to do my homework. Not like Quagmire is grading me or anything.

I don't teach stats so you're good

 

[Ben]

I don't teach stats so you're good

 

[Kat]

8.1875 days² or something like that, but I didn't do any of that math myself and just asked ChatGPT to do my homework. Not like Quagmire is grading me or anything.

I'm sorry, it gave you a result in square days? Yeah, that sounds like how chatgpt would do math.

 

[Ben]

I'm sorry, it gave you a result in square days? Yeah, that sounds like how chatgpt would do math.

It's not measured in square meals per day?

We already have the gaps: 16, 12, 10, 17.
The mean is 13.75. Let’s calculate the variance step by step:


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Step 1: Differences from the mean

16 − 13.75 = +2.25

12 − 13.75 = −1.75

10 − 13.75 = −3.75

17 − 13.75 = +3.25



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Step 2: Square the differences

(2.25)² = 5.0625

(−1.75)² = 3.0625

(−3.75)² = 14.0625

(3.25)² = 10.5625



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Step 3: Mean of squared differences (variance)

\frac{5.0625 + 3.0625 + 14.0625 + 10.5625}{4} = \frac{32.75}{4} = 8.1875


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The variance = 8.1875 days²
(Standard deviation would be √8.1875 ≈ 2.86 days)


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Do you want me to treat this as a population variance (what I just did) or a sample variance (divide by n−1 = 3 instead of 4)?

I have no idea if the math mathed and it just botched the notation. Statistics are a fuck.

 

[Quagmire]

There are stats tests that do have you squaring things so it's possible

 

[Kat]

After googling, I see "variance" is some kind of technical term in stats that does involve squaring. TMYK I guess.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Welp, @Jon is on the clock and @Bandicoot can jump in with his pick whenever he likes.

 

[Jon]

I wish there was a way to separate chat and picks in threads, so it doesn't take me forever to reread what's been picked.

Silent Hill 2

@Kat

 

[VashTheStampede]

If only there was a person running this game that remembered to update the first post

 

[Jon]

If only there was a person running this game that remembered to update the first post

Nah man, I didn't mean that. You're busy, so it's not expected, just a luxury for us.

I meant I wish there was a way like thread subforum or something where we could use the sub-thread to discuss the picks and leave the main thread for picks only. This way, even if you can't update the main thread, we just have to scroll a post or two.

Because I love the discussion, don't want to lose that at all. But the game itself gets lost easily.

@Mark @Ben - Is there anything similar to this we could do? A subthread we could use for discussion that's easily linked within this thread?

 

[Mark]

Nah man, I didn't mean that. You're busy, so it's not expected, just a luxury for us.

I meant I wish there was a way like thread subforum or something where we could use the sub-thread to discuss the picks and leave the main thread for picks only. This way, even if you can't update the main thread, we just have to scroll a post or two.

Because I love the discussion, don't want to lose that at all. But the game itself gets lost easily.

@Mark @Ben - Is there anything similar to this we could do? A subthread we could use for discussion that's easily linked within this thread?

Absolutely, if you wanna make a discussion thread, I can edit a link into the first post. It'll display as two separate threads in the forum, but, it'll serve the purpose you're looking for.

 

[Jon]

Absolutely, if you wanna make a discussion thread, I can edit a link into the first post. It'll display as two separate threads in the forum, but, it'll serve the purpose you're looking for.

This is @VashTheStampede 's game. It's not my decision to make, it's his. I was just checking on options

 

[Mark]

This is @VashTheStampede 's game. It's not my decision to make, it's his. I was just checking on options

I know, that's why I threw out the offer to edit the OP when y'all get it figured out.

 

[Ben]

@Mark @Ben - Is there anything similar to this we could do? A subthread we could use for discussion that's easily linked within this thread?

There's not going to be any form of thread sub-thread.

This might be something that could utilize the wiki function installed a little while ago. That might let people edit their choice into the first post themselves, while tracking the changes.

Edit: hmm, that might have been set at a forum level... I didn't really look at it yet. I've got a pretty busy day at work so it'll be later.

 

[Kat]

I'll go with the classic Crash Bandicoot 2.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Was there a port that I'm unfamiliar with?

 

[Ben]

Was there a port that I'm unfamiliar with?

From what I see, no. Originally released on Playstation (1) in 1997, on PSP and Playstation 3 in 2007, then on PS VITA in 2012.

So very much not ever on PS2.

 

[Kat]

From what I see, no. Originally released on Playstation (1) in 1997, on PSP and Playstation 3 in 2007, then on PS VITA in 2012.

So very much not ever on PS2.

Ahhh apparently the PS1 and PS2 are just a blur in my memory. I'll pick something else when I get a longer break from with

 

[Quagmire]

From what I see, no. Originally released on Playstation (1) in 1997, on PSP and Playstation 3 in 2007, then on PS VITA in 2012.

So very much not ever on PS2.

You can play it on a ps2

 

[VashTheStampede]

You can play it on a ps2

 

[VashTheStampede]

Nah man, I didn't mean that. You're busy, so it's not expected, just a luxury for us.

Oh I know you didnt, just being self-deprecating.

This is @VashTheStampede 's game. It's not my decision to make, it's his. I was just checking on options

I'm one of the guys that makes the Wolf Threads ridiculously large for no good reason. I'm good with our current set-up.

 

[Mark]

I'm one of the guys that makes the Wolf Threads ridiculously large for no good reason. I'm good with our current set-up.

Translation: "Fuck y'all, scroll."

 

[VashTheStampede]

Translation: "Fuck y'all, scroll."

I mean, have you SEEN the Marvel Snap thread?

 

[Mark]

I mean, have you SEEN the Marvel Snap thread?

Seen it? Yes. Wade through it? Never.

 

[VashTheStampede]

75 pages of content, baby

 

[dimmerwit]

 

[Quagmire]

75 pages of content, baby

We should shut down every thread at 69 and then start a new one

 

[Benzine]

i think crash bandicoot 2 is a terrific game

 

[Ben]

This thread:

 

[dimmerwit]

Is Crash 2 better than Crash 3?

 

[Mark]

Is Crash 2 better than Crash 3?

Crash 3 had more depth and less repetition if I recall correctly. I think it was also the first one to make full use of the analog sticks.

 

[Smacktard]

Is Crash 2 better than Crash 3?

Crash 2 is widely believed to be the best of the OG trilogy, and Crash 3 the worst. I liked Crash 3 more because it has more variety of gameplay and fewer bullshit difficult sections.

 

[Benzine]

crash 3 is a great game

 

[Benzine]

where did these rank in the ps1 draft?

 

[Benzine]

i draft cool boarders 2

 

[Quagmire]

I've never played a crash game other than a demo disc from pizza hut

 

[Kat]

Ratchet & Clank

 

[Benzine]

i loved ratchet and clank, me and my brother would play and watch each other on that one big time. i would've been very happy to get it.