Zell Wolf Wolf: Day 1

[Local Hero]

I am going to start voting for people who say “on accident” instead of “by accident”

I said that accidentally.

 

[Ants!]

I've never been shy about day 1 voting, so I'm okay with acting on Ben's information for the time being.

 

[canadaguy]

So we should almost definitely let Quagmire shoot tonight. It proves him, dimmerwit, probably Ben and also whoever is marked.

FR and Jon good by Ants.

I’d like to hear from: Local, shortkut, Alu, canadaguy, Christina, Jawneh, Kat, Tommy

So you can have a nice priority list of townie to kill I presume?

 

[A Baby Maker]

I've never been shy about day 1 voting, so I'm okay with acting on Ben's information for the time being.

What was Ben's information?

 

[Local Hero]

What was Ben's information?

 

[shortkut]

I said that accidentally.

Then I will switch to Jawneh

 

[shortkut]

What was Ben's information?

I checked. Dimmerwit and quagmire are different teams… but I didn’t see how dimmerwit was exonerated

 

[Local Hero]

I checked. Dimmerwit and quagmire are different teams… but I didn’t see how dimmerwit was exonerated

I'm good with a 50 50. Unless they're both innocent and Ben's guilty.

 

[Local Hero]

Voted quagmire for now

 

[A Baby Maker]

I checked. Dimmerwit and quagmire are different teams… but I didn’t see how dimmerwit was exonerated

Ah so because Ants already can't deal with accidentally clearing Jon and FR he had to change "shortkut's information" to "Ben's information" for it to be palatable.

I can see that.

 

[Jon]

Ah so because Ants already can't deal with accidentally clearing Jon and FR he had to change "shortkut's information" to "Ben's information" for it to be palatable.

This statement made my head hurt.

 

[Local Hero]

Wait, it's actually shortkut's info?

Then doubling down on Quagmire lol

 

[shortkut]

Ah so because Ants already can't deal with accidentally clearing Jon and FR he had to change "shortkut's information" to "Ben's information" for it to be palatable.

I can see that.

I didn’t provide any information because it was impossible for my role to provide information last night

 

[A Baby Maker]

I didn’t provide any information because it was impossible for my role to provide information last night

Ah. So when you said "I checked" you mean you checked Ben's information and not that you were the one who made the initial check.

Got it.

 

[Ants!]

I checked. Dimmerwit and quagmire are different teams… but I didn’t see how dimmerwit was exonerated

I don't think he was, just that he claimed a role and I don't think quagmire did yet? Dimmerwit claimes flagger.

 

[A Baby Maker]

Okay yeah. Today was a busy day with looking at too many strollers so I missed Ben's blatant statement about the two of them being on different teams. If Christina isn't lying (for some reason), that means one of of them would be some sort of murdering murder man.

Or that Ben is lying.

 

[Christina]

Okay yeah. Today was a busy day with looking at too many strollers so I missed Ben's blatant statement about the two of them being on different teams. If Christina isn't lying (for some reason), that means one of of them would be some sort of murdering murder man.

Or that Ben is lying.

No reason I can think of to lie. We should kill Fools to check just encase though. I hear he is out hunting heads.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

 

[finlandguy]

We good with testing out the claims and murderate Quagmire? Sure, it's better than my feelings based argument. I can't dispute that. Then again, blood for the blood god would also suffice?

 

[Ben]

Or that Ben is lying.

I may be a dick, but no lying this game.

 

[shortkut]

I don't think he was, just that he claimed a role and I don't think quagmire did yet? Dimmerwit claimes flagger.

Oh flagger, the most innocent of roles

No reason I can think of to lie. We should kill Fools to check just encase though. I hear he is out hunting heads.

im not opposed to this idea

I may be a dick, but no lying this game.

no cap?

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Ben]

no cap?

Fr fr

 

[Ants!]

We good with testing out the claims and murderate Quagmire? Sure, it's better than my feelings based argument. I can't dispute that. Then again, blood for the blood god would also suffice?

Omg I forgot that I can still vote jawneh. He hasn't been cleared by anyone yet!

 

[Zell 17]

Voted quagmire for now

Why in the fuck would you vote for the one person who claims a role that’s nearly instantly provable

 

[Zell 17]

voting local for extremely dumb vote and even worse claim

 

[Zell 17]

So you can have a nice priority list of townie to kill I presume?

My guy, if I was a wolf I already know who the villagers are.

Withholding information helps one team only. The town has tried this route of being cagey and lost like 10 straight times.

 

[Ants!]

I missed where Quagmire claimed marksman, had to go back and look for it after Zells post.

So between Ben, Quagmire, and Dimmerwit, it's not possible for all three of them to be telling the truth.

 

[Zell 17]

I missed where Quagmire claimed marksman, had to go back and look for it after Zells post.

So between Ben, Quagmire, and Dimmerwit, it's not possible for all three of them to be telling the truth.

There’s no harm in letting him shoot whoever is marked. If he’s real and dies, we kill dimmerwit. Plus whoever he shoots is proven a villager. If he shoots a baddie, even better. If he doesn’t shoot, we kill him tomorrow. Kill someone else today. 0% Local is good here

 

[finlandguy]

I'm wondering about Ben now as he shadowed slapped a vote on me. canadaguy just lol votes me despite slowly hurting my feelings every time. kut I don't know about, but the Ben vote is weird. At best I could think of making another juicy target beyond Quagmire? Why would he vote me and not either Quagmire or dimmer if he's town?

I don't know what to feel about this.

 

[canadaguy]

I'm wondering about Ben now as he shadowed slapped a vote on me. canadaguy just lol votes me despite slowly hurting my feelings every time. kut I don't know about, but the Ben vote is weird. At best I could think of making another juicy target beyond Quagmire? Why would he vote me and not either Quagmire or dimmer if he's town?

I don't know what to feel about this.

I vote for you out of love

 

[Local Hero]

Why in the fuck would you vote for the one person who claims a role that’s nearly instantly provable

Because of shortkut's post below. It was the only post with "info" I've seen.

I checked. Dimmerwit and quagmire are different teams… but I didn’t see how dimmerwit was exonerated

voting local for extremely dumb vote

Fair

and even worse claim

Incorrect

0% Local is good here

Incorrect

 

[Kat]

There’s no harm in letting him shoot whoever is marked. If he’s real and dies, we kill dimmerwit. Plus whoever he shoots is proven a villager. If he shoots a baddie, even better. If he doesn’t shoot, we kill him tomorrow. Kill someone else today. 0% Local is good here

Sooo, kill Local today?

No reason I can think of to lie.

Yeah I can't think of any reason either somebody would lie in this game!

 

[Local Hero]

For the record, ants, jawneh, and dimmerwit are also voting for Quagmire. I'll move off for now.

 

[Local Hero]

Sooo, kill Local today?

Please don't.

 

[Kat]

Hmm, should we be suspicious that Zell is pushing us away from lynching one of the people Ben has claimed one of isn't town?

 

[Ben]

Been writing this shit for a minute, so of course you fucks said a bunch of shit in the interim, but...

Options:

Kill Quagmire, who claims Marksman, which if true confirms dimmerwit as a baddie but loses the town a killing role.

Kill dimmerwit, who claims Flagger, which if true confirms Quagmire as a baddie but loses us a protection role.

Quagmire is the only one of the two with a claim that can prove himself overnight, assuming he's got his target on someone and makes a kill shot. I'm not sure if the target is announced if Quagmire queefs his shot though and hits a villager, killing himself, so he'd better announce who he targeted before the day ends. That way we'd get confirmation on another villager.

I'm willing to move my vote off Quagmire and let him prove himself, even if it feels like a gamble.

My next choice would probably be to kill Jawneh just so he stops talking so much. I dunno what he's claiming besides 'feelings'. He's also the one with the next highest number of votes so feels more likely to secure a kill on day 1.

I could be swayed to vote Local if you're dead ass convinced he's evil, but after reloading and seeing Jawneh's "why Ben be mean with no say words", I'm leaving it where it is for now. I'll sleep on it.

 

[Local Hero]

Hmm, should we be suspicious that Zell is pushing us away from lynching one of the people Ben has claimed one of isn't town?

This makes more sense than lynching me

 

[Ants!]

Good points made. Okay we can give Quagmire one night to prove himself and then lynch either dimmerwit or quagmire tomorrow (unless quagmire kills dimmerwit).

Going back to no vote for now.

 

[Ben]

Hmm, should we be suspicious that Zell is pushing us away from lynching one of the people Ben has claimed one of isn't town?

I'm not that suspicious of Zell pointing out Quagmire should be able to prove himself, that's true.

If he shoots overnight and dies, we know dim is evil. Maybe Quagmire takes out a wolf. Maybe Quagmire hits a villager and kills himself, but then we confirm another villager as well as dim being evil. If he can't or doesn't shoot, we kill him tomorrow.

I would vote for dimmerwit instead so Quagmire doesn't have to waste a shot at all, but that just ruins the potential waterfall of information that forcing Quagmire to shoot provides. Plus if dimmerwit is legit flagger, we'll likely need all the protection roles we can get.

Hence my vote landing on Mr. Gimmick.

 

[Kat]

What if we kill dimmerwit today, and if he's good and quagmire proves himself tomorrow, we kill Ben?

Are we believing Christina that Ben can't be headhunter and neither quagmire or dimmerwit is the fool?

 

[Kat]

I would vote for dimmerwit instead so Quagmire doesn't have to waste a shot at all, but that just ruins the potential waterfall of information that forcing Quagmire to shoot provides. Plus if dimmerwit is legit flagger, we'll likely need all the protection roles we can get.

It's not a waste, it still clears him or another townie, plus it clears you if we know he's good and dimmerwit isn't, which we wouldn't know tomorrow if we let dimmerwit live.

I mean, I don't hate the idea of killing Jawneh for fucking around, but it feels like we should go after somebody with at least a 50/50 shot of being evil. We can always kill him tomorrow if quagmire checks out.

 

[Kat]

And even if quagmire doesn't shoot, and we kill him tomorrow, and we verify he's evil, it doesn't clear dimmerwit. They could be wolf + SK or even wolf + townie on instigator team (I think, haven't read the roles in a while).

 

[Zell 17]

What if we kill dimmerwit today, and if he's good and quagmire proves himself tomorrow, we kill Ben?

Are we believing Christina that Ben can't be headhunter and neither quagmire or dimmerwit is the fool?

It’s POSSIBLE that Ben is faking, but that’s another reason to basically ignore the dimmerwit != Quagmire info for today at least.

The only way we’d discover Ben was lying is if the other two strong villagers come out and tell us he is fake. The Strong villagers may have good reason to not claim on day 1. That will not be true tomorrow.

 

[Jon]

I’m glad to just be sitting here as a passenger but I wish I had a cool role to proffer information to you all.

 

[Jon]

Also, I miss @VashTheStampede

 

[shortkut]

I'm wondering about Ben now as he shadowed slapped a vote on me. canadaguy just lol votes me despite slowly hurting my feelings every time. kut I don't know about, but the Ben vote is weird. At best I could think of making another juicy target beyond Quagmire? Why would he vote me and not either Quagmire or dimmer if he's town?

I don't know what to feel about this.

I voted for you on accident

 

[Kat]

It’s POSSIBLE that Ben is faking, but that’s another reason to basically ignore the dimmerwit != Quagmire info for today at least.

So ignore his info and kill at random/on vibes? Or kill nobody when we have this claim? Why?

The only way we’d discover Ben was lying is if the other two strong villagers come out and tell us he is fake. The Strong villagers may have good reason to not claim on day 1. That will not be true tomorrow.

... Or if we find that quagmire and dimmerwit are on the same team... Another person countering his claim could also be lying so it still doesn't prove anything.

You really don't want us to lynch either of them, do you?

Voting dimmerwit.

 

[Local Hero]

I voted for you on accident

 

[shortkut]