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From my understanding, couldn't he have moved to farmer night 0 and then put it in motion to move up a level last night?
This is true, but it goes back to something he was saying day 1. He said he downgraded off violinist and was therefore a farmer that day. However, he would still be violinist during day 1 and be converted that night.

So either he requested the change and is confused about the timing (which feels doubtful because Zell was very clear with me when I would change roles), or he's lying and also apparently confused with the timing. My thinking then says he has a role which is doesn't have access to changing jobs, and thus timings never came up between Zell and him.
 
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Or maybe I'm just seeing a monster but all it is, is a coat rack in the shadow
 

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Shouldn’t you be a role if you changed night 1? You should’ve moved to a power role now.

I’m a farmer because I only changed last night. I couldn’t use my power (reliably) on night 1 so I had to wait until I was confident in a person.
So Benzine is also confused about how role switching works?
 

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"And a member of the cult".

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So Benzine is also confused about how role switching works?
And like I said, Zell was very clear with me that I would still spend the day as my current role and only change at the next night when I mentioned maybe changing
 

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Well that explains that. Town will be enjoying the craziness of not knowing at this point lol
Unless they've inexplicably been successfully convinced it's not a problem?

:rofl

If Vash is not the real Trickster and they lynch the Cult Leader today, there's a scenario the wolves win before Day 3 playing out.
 

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So they're suggesting Jon was told to protect Vash. But how? If Vash was converted the first night, then Jon wouldn't be cult in time to be told to protect him. If Vash wasn't cult the first night, then he couldn't be turned if he's protected. So what sense does it make?

Maybe Jon was told to claim he protected after the fact to cover up the conversion? Still seems weird, but it makes more sense than anything else I can come up with.
 

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Here's a question for y'all to ponder:

How could someone be so sure it was a Cult Leader attack that was redirected from Benzine to Vash?
 

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Is there another possibility besides wolf attack that was blocked?
Let me phrase this differently.

Let's assume that it was a redirected Cult Leader attack from Benzine to Vash.

Aside from Vash not dying, how would you know it was a Cult Leader attack over a protected wolf attack? Who can be so sure?
 

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Let me phrase this differently.

Let's assume that it was a redirected Cult Leader attack from Benzine to Vash.

Aside from Vash not dying, how would you know it was a Cult Leader attack over a protected wolf attack? Who can be so sure?
Wolves would know.

Also Jon being the cult leader could make sense as well, since he could claim he "protected" Vash when in reality he would just know that Vash wouldn't have been killed.
 
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And nobody is going to call him on the fact that switching from violinist to priest can't be done in two days? Maybe the first day he could claim he was confused, but he'd know for sure what his role is today.

I find it hard to believe he doesn't understand the system. Is he actually the fool hoping to get caught in a lie?
 

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And nobody is going to call him on the fact that switching from violinist to priest can't be done in two days? Maybe the first day he could claim he was confused, but he'd know for sure what his role is today.

I find it hard to believe he doesn't understand the system. Is he actually the fool hoping to get caught in a lie?
Zell told me he would confirm in PM when they change. So if Ben isn't lying (which i dont see how at this point) he would have received a message overnight that he is now a farmer
 

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Does it seem that Benzine is also seeming to claim a role change happening too fast?

Are both Ben's the solos?
 
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