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Figured we need one of these

Currently Into the Narrowdark, the third book in the Last King of Osten Ard series. Great series, sequel to Memory, Sorrow and Thorn, which was inspiration for A ong of Ice & FIre

Shepherd's Crown, last discworld and last Tiffany Aching book. Love both series and I think Tiffany is his best work
 
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Revisiting the entire Lord of the Rings lore right from the very beginning. Originally planned to watch the series as usual since it's part of my yearly Christmas tradition, but I decided to take it a step further this year. :)

It's kind of funny, I love Fantasy, but I have zero interest in the Lord of the Rings. I like the ones that are more political/local conflicts in nature, so that is probably why. The traditional fantasy that Tolkien built is important, and there isnt what I love today without him, but just doesnt do it for me.
 
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It's kind of funny, I love Fantasy, but I have zero interest in the Lord of the Rings. I like the ones that are more political/local conflicts in nature, so that is probably why. The traditional fantasy that Tolkien built is important, and there isnt what I love today without him, but just doesnt do it for me.
Yeah, makes sense if political/local conflicts are more or less what you're into. But agreed, Tolkien's work is important. He at least deserves the credit & recognition for the effort he's put into his craft.
 
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Finished reading Daughter of the Forrest

It's historical fantasy that takes place in Britain, really enjoyed it. It's mysterious, tense, cozy and alien all at the same time and features a very strong female lead. It is bittersweet which is my favorite type of story

 
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Brandon Sanderson's new Stormlight book just came out, so that.

I used to be a huge fan, but after his editor change (first book with was Rhythm of War) I have lost a lot of interest

It could be me, but I reread the first three stormlight books before RoW and enjoyed them still, but really had a hard time with RoW and then the Mistborn Book that came out after that.
 
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I didn't know this, but I also did not enjoy Rhythm of War as much as the first three. I attributed it being a middle book and character fatigue. Took me a while to get through it.

I really liked the last Mistborn book, though. Wayne is one of my favorite characters in his books.

Im not a huge Wayne fan, it was fine until the last book. I feel with his last two big Cosmere books (I havent read any of the secret projects) Sanderson has tipped too far into the marvel joke/one liners direction and found myself cringing in a lot more scenes than I was before which is where I kind of come down to the editor change here. I didnt know there was a change until after I read ROW and I could tell something felt different

Now I really did like Steris and Marasi in era 2 though and enjoyed their growth
 
Sanderson has tipped too far into the marvel joke/one liners direction and found myself cringing in a lot more scenes than I was before which is where I kind of come down to the editor change here.

Okay, I did notice that. I think some of it has to do with the Cosmere tie ins becoming more frequent due to world hopping and the fact that these secrets were more cryptic about how interconnected the worlds are. Now that so many characters are crossing paths and moving between worlds, it feels a lot more like a Marvel universe.

For the most part I think his main characters are still solidly in place how they were intended but many of the ancillary characters are bordering on one note, and have become a little too playful. Almost like he's veering into fanfic of his current work. I see that more with people like Lift, Syl, some of the wind runners.

I also think he knows his main criticisms are his ability to write deeper characters. I think he is consciously trying to inject personality into his characters rather than using them as plot movers, which, when it isn't your strength, is more noticeable. He builds incredible worlds, magic systems, and action, but his weakness has always been character building.

I'm still fully invested. I think he wanted to evolve Stormlight specifically into less of a typical high fantasy Tolkien/GoT into more of the Marvel/DC deal because he's varied his book settings, and it only makes sense that he wants to encompass multiple genres with it.
 

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I have the new Stormlight book on my Kindle and ready to read on the cross country flights I'm about to take.

I did enjoy the first 3 books more than the latest one, but I still enjoyed the 4th one quite a bit. And I agree with Tom about the second generation of the Mistborn series. I'm going to try and catch up on some other reading I fell behind on this year as well, and if I can get through this book, I'll comment on what I decided to go to next.
 
I am reading Shock of Gray by Ted Fishman. It's a bit old now, but it discusses some of the challenges related to aging and how the world will respond to a larger percentage of individuals being older.

The book has some interesting information, but I don't love how it is written. It alternates between chapters that are a case study on a specific part of the world and how they deal with aging, and then smaller chapters that are more information-based on getting older. I find the latter chapters more compelling, but the former are way longer.
 
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Currently reading The Secret Pilgrim by Jean le Carre, I've read a lot of his stuff and enjoyed it all, but this one Im having a hard time getting into. I liked the set up, but havent really gotten to that resolution, or if we did it was lacking. Feels like a bunch of short stories about the main character's past.

One thing I will say, the current paper backs for his novels, the covers are drop dead gorgeous

First dozen ish are a good sample of what the covers look like
 

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I'm currently reading Heavenbreaker by Sara Wolf. Just finished reading The Man from Waco by Joan Johnston and William W. Johnstone.
 
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Should have found this thread sooner, because for all of the things that I don't have time for in real life right now, reading is not one of them.

I'm reading Rhythm of War at the moment. I only started reading Stormlight in September, and will take a break before moving on to the most recent book. I'm about half way through. So far I absolutely loved the first two, but felt like Oathbringer was a bit more difficult to get through. No issues with Rhythm of War so far. Even when I criticise these books it feels minor, because they are just so, so good.
 
Should have found this thread sooner, because for all of the things that I don't have time for in real life right now, reading is not one of them.

I'm reading Rhythm of War at the moment. I only started reading Stormlight in September, and will take a break before moving on to the most recent book. I'm about half way through. So far I absolutely loved the first two, but felt like Oathbringer was a bit more difficult to get through. No issues with Rhythm of War so far. Even when I criticise these books it feels minor, because they are just so, so good.

Assuming you've read other Sanderson books? The fifth one so far references a lot of his other work.

I'm 400 pages into 5, it's very good.

Obv, I can't judge it yet but Words of Radiance is still my favorite. I loved Oathbreaker, too with the Dalinar backstory. I found book 4 but far the weakest as but still solid.
 

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I'm a bit over 500 pages into the latest one so far. I'm liking it, but yes it makes the most sense of you've read other cosmere stuff. If you haven't read Mistborn yet I'd highly recommend that before continuing with Stormlight.

Elantris is a good one off. A bit simpler as I think it was his first work. But there are some one offs that are pretty easy to get through that are referenced throughout as well.
 
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I'm a bit over 500 pages into the latest one so far. I'm liking it, but yes it makes the most sense of you've read other cosmere stuff. If you haven't read Mistborn yet I'd highly recommend that before continuing with Stormlight.

Elantris is a good one off. A bit simpler as I think it was his first work. But there are some one offs that are pretty easy to get through that are referenced throughout as well.

Elantris I think has one of his best characters in Hrathen
 
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Assuming you've read other Sanderson books? The fifth one so far references a lot of his other work.

I'm 400 pages into 5, it's very good.

Obv, I can't judge it yet but Words of Radiance is still my favorite. I loved Oathbreaker, too with the Dalinar backstory. I found book 4 but far the weakest as but still solid.
I have, yes. The first six Mistborn books, Elantris and Tess in terms of Cosmere. I've read Reckoners as well, but obviously that's not Cosmere.
 
I am almost done reading AI Snake Oil by Arvind Narayanan and Sayash Kapoor.

These guys are two AI researchers who try to dispel myths about AI in the book. They recognize that there are a lot of great things AI can do, but the focus of the book is almost entirely negative/disproving claims about AI. It's a pretty interesting read, although sometimes I feel like they dispute things by saying "we did the research, trust us". I'm sure they did do the research and that it would be impractical to show their work, but it also feels a little simplistic.
 
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I am almost done reading AI Snake Oil by Arvind Narayanan and Sayash Kapoor.

These guys are two AI researchers who try to dispel myths about AI in the book. They recognize that there are a lot of great things AI can do, but the focus of the book is almost entirely negative/disproving claims about AI. It's a pretty interesting read, although sometimes I feel like they dispute things by saying "we did the research, trust us". I'm sure they did do the research and that it would be impractical to show their work, but it also feels a little simplistic.
I listened to a fair few episodes of Better Offline, which is critical of quite a lot of things happening in the tech world at the moment. Its AI episodes were interesting, and I feel like it may have quoted from those two.
 

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I got to the last book in the pile I bought from Powell's a while back, called Exadelic. Have you ever seen videos where somebody has a computer play something like Mario and it takes advantage of weird glitches to jump diagonally through blocks and whatnot? The premise of this book is somebody accidentally creates an artificial super intelligence which figures out how to do that with reality.

It sounds interesting and like it could become philosophical, but it mostly ends up being a social commentary on the tech industry and how rich and powerful people become completely detached from their humanity. And the protagonist is a tech bro who constantly whines about how he never wanted any of the hardship he's experiencing, so that's exhausting.

All I've taken away from it is I need to be better supervised when I'm book shopping.
 
At page 500 in Wind and Truth and I'm hitting a wall... typical Sanderson mid-book slowness creeping in, even though the story is bouncing around to 5 perspectives. Problem is, 3 of them are a lot of info dumping and set up. Even the battle perspective is of a siege, so it's kind of slow. I've only been able to do 25-30 pages a night the last few days.

In Stormlight, I always get hooked on the first 400 or so pages, 400 - 700 typically take a lot of focus and the longest amount of time, and then 800 through the end is full Sanderslanche (or Sanderslide to some) to the end where I can't put it down.
 

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At page 500 in Wind and Truth and I'm hitting a wall... typical Sanderson mid-book slowness creeping in, even though the story is bouncing around to 5 perspectives. Problem is, 3 of them are a lot of info dumping and set up. Even the battle perspective is of a siege, so it's kind of slow. I've only been able to do 25-30 pages a night the last few days.

In Stormlight, I always get hooked on the first 400 or so pages, 400 - 700 typically take a lot of focus and the longest amount of time, and then 800 through the end is full Sanderslanche (or Sanderslide to some) to the end where I can't put it down.
I'm probably slightly ahead of you at the moment, but I haven't been able to read for a bit for different reasons. I'll be getting back at it soon, and then reading a bunch on my flight home Tuesday.
 

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I finished my book. It was very confusing the way it went in the end, like the protagonist learned absolutely nothing. Then I read the blurb about the author and realized he's a real life tech bro, and it suddenly made sense. Sigh. I feel kinda dirty having that book in my head now.

I think I'll go back to the Foundation series now. Sometimes it's better to stick with the classics.
 
I'm probably slightly ahead of you at the moment, but I haven't been able to read for a bit for different reasons. I'll be getting back at it soon, and then reading a bunch on my flight home Tuesday.

I just got to 600, luckily its getting more interesting, but the focus on the history of the world is less interesting than the regular timeline. It's cool getting some answers about why the story is set in motion, but its long.

I'm also back and forth on the Szeth portion of the story. It's cool seeing his point of view, and his beliefs are so different than everyone else, but its a slog. I bet the payoff will be huge because the book is called Wind and Truth, with him being Truthless from the beginning.

I can't wait for the bombastic end, its been a long time coming and I'm now at the halfway point. The Sanderslide should be starting up soon.
 

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I just got to 600, luckily its getting more interesting, but the focus on the history of the world is less interesting than the regular timeline. It's cool getting some answers about why the story is set in motion, but its long.

I'm also back and forth on the Szeth portion of the story. It's cool seeing his point of view, and his beliefs are so different than everyone else, but its a slog. I bet the payoff will be huge because the book is called Wind and Truth, with him being Truthless from the beginning.

I can't wait for the bombastic end, its been a long time coming and I'm now at the halfway point. The Sanderslide should be starting up soon.
I can tell you that it's starting to pick up more. I'm beyond page 700 now and there's some more action happening in almost all of the various plotlines. So yeah you're right for it being soon.
 
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I think I'll go back to the Foundation series now. Sometimes it's better to stick with the classics.
Sorry if you've answered this before and I have noticed, but where are you up to with it? I've read a fair few classic sci fi heavy hitters over the past couple of years, and I thought Foundation was fairly middle of the road, by which I mean I enjoyed it and it did have some moments which made me appreciate its classic status, but I equally felt that it also read in parts like the dated book that it obviously is. That's in contrast to some classics that I just think are fantastic even reading them now (like Childhood's End and Flowers for Algernon), and ones that I think are just straight up terrible (Starship Troopers). It didn't make me want to read further into the series though. Is it worth doing that bearing in mind my impression of the first book?
 

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Sorry if you've answered this before and I have noticed, but where are you up to with it? I've read a fair few classic sci fi heavy hitters over the past couple of years, and I thought Foundation was fairly middle of the road, by which I mean I enjoyed it and it did have some moments which made me appreciate its classic status, but I equally felt that it also read in parts like the dated book that it obviously is. That's in contrast to some classics that I just think are fantastic even reading them now (like Childhood's End and Flowers for Algernon), and ones that I think are just straight up terrible (Starship Troopers). It didn't make me want to read further into the series though. Is it worth doing that bearing in mind my impression of the first book?
I've read the first two or three, I think. The series is a bit dry without much character development. Even though that gets a bit better as the series progresses, there are so many large time jumps that you aren't going to get attached to any particular person. I like that style of writing, but if you weren't into the first one, you probably won't have a much different opinion of the following ones. I mean, Apple turning the first fifty pages of the first book into an entire season of TV tells you all you need to know there. It might be the only TV adaptation I know of where they had to add extra detail instead of taking it out. :chuckle

IMO you will only enjoy his books if you're interested in the concept being played with. I, Robot (my personal favorite of his) is similar: the character development is minimal but the different scenarios of troubleshooting problems of an intelligent robot are quite entertaining if you're interested in that kind of thing. If you aren't interested in technical problems like that, it'll bore you to tears.

I'll let you know if I have a different opinion after reading more of it.
 
I'm about 150 pages into Warbreaker and it's been a fun read so far. Haven't seen Vasher and Nightblood for a bit, so looking forward to getting more of them.

Assuming we are counting audiobooks, I just started The Eye of the World in my car (1 hour in so far). I figured who knows when I will ever get around to reading the Wheel of Time series, so why not just listen to them whenever driving (I can check them out from my local library via the Libby app). The narrator is the same one from the Mistborn trilogy which I listened to after reading those, so it's a familiar voice and he does well.
 

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I've started rereading this psychology book, "I'm ok-you're ok", since it's been close to a decade since I last did, and I wanted to talk about it with my 12 year old son.

Of course, he reads like his mother, so he finished it in a few days while I'm still chewing through it.
 

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I've started rereading this psychology book, "I'm ok-you're ok", since it's been close to a decade since I last did, and I wanted to talk about it with my 12 year old son.

Of course, he reads like his mother, so he finished it in a few days while I'm still chewing through it.
What's it about? It's oddly hard to tell from the cover.
 
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What's it about? It's oddly hard to tell from the cover.
Hah, fair.

It was written on 1967 I believe, so it's got some dated language but the last time I read it, it made a lot of sense to me. Especially since I read it right around the time I was figuring out that I'm on the spectrum and such.

The first bit is trying to define a common language through which to talk about interactions with other people, and what goes into that. It defines "Transactional Analysis" and how to try to reduce psychology into measurable units to which you can apply scientific method, etc. So a transaction is an interaction between two people, and transactions can provide "strokes" which are units of recognition/affirmation, which humans need to be happy.

I'll try to explain the core parts of it as I've understood (and read through) so far...

It starts with some research someone did while performing brain surgery, where they didn't tell the patient they were doing it but stimulated parts of their brain with a probe. It made the patient immediately recall something in their past, though they wouldn't immediately know why. They might hear a part of a song, or think of a scent, etc. Continued probing of the same region made them think of more lines of the song, or whatever, and was entirely involuntary. Even after they were told what was being done, they couldn't stop recalling those things when probed.

Kind of core to it all then is that from birth (perhaps even before) our brains are recording everything in essentially two channels, one that's recording what you're seeing, being told, rules, learned attitudes, etc. Things you pick up from your parents and other authority figures. Thus therefore called "The Parent".

There's also a simultaneous recording of everything you feel, emotions, impulses, etc. called "The Child".

These don't mean literally the same as you'd normally use "parent" and "child".

It poses that during the first 3 years of life, you're recording everything to both the Parent and Child, and throughout life when we encounter situations, the brain is essentially playing back from those recordings. The Parent is imposing what rules or attitudes you learned, and the child is imposing the emotions you first felt. You cannot stop them from replaying, it's involuntary and the recordings can never be erased.

It might present as a (literal) parent yelling at their kids not to put coats/hats on the table as a rule, without really knowing why, but it tracks back to during the grandmother's time some neighborhood kids had lice so they didn't want the coats/hats on the table if they came around, and it'd just been passed down as a learned behavior through The Parent. Likewise, another patient was described as hearing a song and feeling a great sense of melancholy not knowing why, but it tracked back to her mother who died when she was 5 playing that song on the piano. She heard the song and immediately felt like she was an alone 5 year old again.

But that's where the third "Adult" comes in. Not literally a grown up person, but it's the state of being conscious about the Parent and Child and being able to chose whether replaying those first responses that you had to something is appropriate. The Adult is basically the computer taking those two feeds of data and processing it through a filter of "is this useful for the present situation?"

Going back to the concept of "stroking", with "a stroke" being the unit of recognition/affirmation someone could receive from another individual. These can be positive or negative, but people need to receive that validation. Initially, the mother is providing all those sources of stroking, cooing over the child, feeding it, etc. That's what breeds the initial "I'm not OK - You're OK", because they're getting strokes. And negatives strokes are sometimes preferred to no strokes at all, like a child acting badly just to get some attention.

Theeeeeeeeeeeeeen it moves on to talking about four emotional states that everyone occupies. It starts out with "I'm not OK-You're OK" for everyone as an infant, regardless of whether they're showered with love or not provided it adequately. It stems from the human just being smaller than everyone, helpless without them, unable to communicate what they feel, etc. I'm not OK but you are.

So with a position of I'm not OK - You are, there's at least a source of stroking and the "adult" gets to work on finding ways to increase those strokes. I think most people stay in that state, though it could change to one of two other states depending on how the child is treated.

I'm not OK - You're not OK, which is when the parent becomes distant after the infancy and stops providing those strokes they did before. The child concludes that something changed and they aren't OK anymore. The "babying" days are over. And it might not even be that there aren't people in the future who could provide that stroking, it's that once the position is set in someone they can't change it. Any future experiences will be framed in a way that supports that core position of I'm not OK, you're not OK. This likely leads to the person 'giving up' and feeling like there's no hope, extreme withdrawal from others, showing regressive behavior that's vaguely trying to get back to the days of infancy when they did receive those strokes. The extreme expression would be suicide.

I'm OK - you're not OK, is the result of children who suffer severe physical abuse. It's framed like, if a child is beaten to where they've broken bones, had concussions, etc. there may come a belief that they are OK by themselves, but everyone external is not OK and causes pain. In a way, the act of 'licking their own wounds' is a source of self-strokes, and they come to think that they're the only one who can make themselves feel OK. They might overcompensate for that in later life by trying to make themselves feel superior to others, have other control issues or not really be able to recognize their own flaws. The extreme expression here would be homicide.

There's more about how we write scripts for ourselves based off of those positions, and play 'games' that help us prove those things as being true. I've not got back into that part yet, nor the real bulk of the inter-track transactions, like when a Parent persona is addressing a Child persona, or Adult to Adult conversation which is healthy and productive, etc.

EDIT: The ultimate goal of it is obviously being aware of those two recordings, being able to employ the Adult effectively, and finding "I'm OK-You're OK." I haven't quite got there yet, either in the book, or in my head.

I'm sure I explained that perfectly.

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And done. I read 600 pages this weekend, it got so involved.

Spoiler free reaction: Why is Sanderson taking a break from Stormlight to do other books now?! There is so much that I need to see happen! How can he leave it like this?!?!?!
I know... He said it takes up so much of his time and energy that he needs a break in order to not be bogged down and refresh his brain with other projects though.

Whatever gets him to keep writing works for me though. But 2030s for the next Stormlight? Ugh...
 
I know... He said it takes up so much of his time and energy that he needs a break in order to not be bogged down and refresh his brain with other projects though.

Whatever gets him to keep writing works for me though. But 2030s for the next Stormlight? Ugh...

I'm trying not to be worried that he is going to be 50 this year. Way of Kings came out in 2010 and the 5th one in 2024. We have to wait 5 more years to start the next five, and he isn't going to be able to keep up this pace forever. Figure 20 years to complete the next set of 5, that puts him at 75 years old...

Not trying to be morbid, but I hope this doesn't end up being a Robert Jordan situation.
 
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