VTS Mafia The Morgue (Year 2)

[Jon]

??? Explain yourself @Jon

Iirc, this was the time when you switched from Tubby for trial to Kelly. I felt that was the worst move since at the time, Tubby was your biggest threat because because he and the mafia could eliminate two of you.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I would say the mafia's biggest mistake was leaving the bomber alive.

Zell stated that he didn't give a shit about the bomber. Right when Benzine was killed the bomber.

I seemed to have been the only one trying to find the bomber. Asked Benzine to check Dean. He checked Alu instead.

 

[Christina]

I think the thing I'm curious about is - how will the next game go now that some actual tells have been revealed?

From what I can tell aside from the animal one being uncovered, the city wasn't close on finding any actual tells while alive.

Will people look more aggressively? Will they look at different things? Will they think deeper than the basic ones?

Or will they just ignore the tell system?

The tells system is supposed to function more for the trial I think, by giving evidence or not evidence. I feel it can be used more maybe in future games when the trial system is upgraded. Also Vash hate there being a bunch of seers, so it is also supposed to function as a seer role that you have to do some real work for.

This game I am trying so hard to get trial and trail right. Fuck the English language.

 

[Jon]

I just want to start another game right now.

 

[TD]

The tells system is supposed to function more for the trial I think, by giving evidence or not evidence. I feel it can be used more maybe in future games when the trial system is upgraded. Also Vash hate there being a bunch of seers, so it is also supposed to function as a seer role that you have to do some real work for.

This game I am trying so hard to get trial and trail right. Fuck the English language.

If there's not a system in place to identify who is a bad guy (the tell system really doesn't do this with the obscurities and so many ways to hide), the game is heavily favoured for the bad guys.

I'm not implying it's a bad thing though as Vash did admit early that he wanted an asymmetrical game that favours the bad guys and he has it.

 

[TD]

I find it hilarious that Kelly is drilling Alu about not trying to win by not following his idea when voting not guilty on Kelly would literally be not trying to win, which is what Kelly is trying to suggest.

Wild.

 

[Christina]

I find it hilarious that Kelly is drilling Alu about not trying to win by not following his idea when voting not guilty on Kelly would literally be not trying to win, which is what Kelly is trying to suggest.

Wild.

I've had to stop reading the main thread because it was making my brain hurt.

 

[Local Hero]

Page 27

Some sequels are good

Do it!

Maybe I should change my custom title from idea man to “the spoiler”

Did you like my tell suggestion?

 

[TD]

I am still reading this clusterfuck to see the main game thread. Is he using my template for a stalemate?

He basically is yeah, although Kelly has been trying to tell him that voting not guilty is a good idea.

Did you have doubts?

....maybe but I never should've doubted you. I was just worried people would get daunted by the post count.

 

[shortkut]

It was the post where you called out the thing with Kelly and his pattern with questions. Even if it wasn't his actual tell - I was very happy you saw it too.

Post in thread 'Mafia Legacy Year 2 (Night 3/Day 3)' https://gwforums.com/threads/mafia-legacy-year-2-night-3-day-3.947/post-54796

Usually yes - but TD.

Gotchu

I like how Alu did say that if the town doesn't win the bomber deserves to.

#TeamTubby

Also what if Tubby isn't shushed and cg made a play to make sure Tubby  could tag Zell?

I agree #teamtubby

Cg possibly didn't hush Tubby

That would be spicy

Technically, ZELL didn't say Aha-ha...

Exactly

I gave up after 6 pages.

You’re weak

Yup - that thing.
You played very strong in the second half of the game.

I’ll be honest, I didn’t pay much attention the first half

If there's not a system in place to identify who is a bad guy (the tell system really doesn't do this with the obscurities and so many ways to hide), the game is heavily favoured for the bad guys.

I'm not implying it's a bad thing though as Vash did admit early that he wanted an asymmetrical game that favours the bad guys and he has it.

That is the only weakness to this game


And with that I’m all caught up

 

[Christina]

Want the taste of pancakes but in vegetable form?! Acorn squash!

Roasted with butter and maple syrup. I also put cinnamon on it today because I like cinnamon.

 

[Christina]

For us in the US we are close to the be phone alert.

 

[shortkut]

Council of Erics?

Love the name, just wish it could have been Eric/ks

 

[Fool's Requiem]

You’re weak

so's your face

 

[TD]

cg shushed Tubby again lol

Post in thread 'Mafia Legacy Year 2 (Night 5/Day 5)' https://gwforums.com/threads/mafia-legacy-year-2-night-5-day-5.976/post-57397

 

[Local Hero]

I feel like the town is finally making sense

 

[Local Hero]

And also will finally get a mafia kill lmao

 

[shortkut]

Oh boy…

 

[Christina]

What? I guess the plan changed.

 

[Christina]

Welcome @canadaguy when you get in here.

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[Tommy Boy]

 

[VashTheStampede]

That hat looks ridiculous

 

[Christina]

This is the game that keeps on giving.

 

[Christina]

Tubby went full Ra's al Ghul

 

[TD]

Did Tubby just give the game to the mafia?
lol

 

[Jon]

Did Tubby just give the game to the mafia?
lol

Well, he said that he was targeting "La familia" so it would seem counter intuitive but... sure seems that way lol.

 

[TD]

Literally all the mafia has to do is kill Tubby tonight and they win.

...right?

 

[Local Hero]

He wants to go out on his terms, not like things up to RNG

 

[Jon]

Can the mafia kill if the only member left is jailed? I mean if the bomber can't kill a pretagged target if in custody, how does the mafia do it if they have one left?!

Also, what if Tubby votes himself into jail? They need 2... Mafia can't get him in jail, no?

 

[TD]

Interesting choice I guess.

No longer #TeamTubby cause he wanted to kill me.

 

[TD]

You need 2 votes to be jailed.
If they jail Tubby that's dumb but it could happen I guess.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Can the mafia kill if the only member left is jailed?

No

 

[Jon]

You need 2 votes to be jailed.
If they jail Tubby that's dumb but it could happen I guess.

I'm just saying that Zell needs to kill Tubby to win tonight. What happens if Tubby chooses to vote for himself, goes to jail, is immune to mafia kill, tags someone who posts less than him...

Am I wrong or can Tubby win this?

 

[TD]

I'm just saying that Zell needs to kill Tubby to win tonight. What happens if Tubby chooses to vote for himself, goes to jail, is immune to mafia kill, tags someone who posts less than him...

Am I wrong or can Tubby win this?

Can't tag someone and blow them up if you're in jail.

 

[TD]

They could technically just put Tubby on trial over and over and lamb chop this.

 

[shortkut]

Nah, bomber still make cg go boom and new juror comes in.

If you both voted not guilty, then Zell would vote not guilty too

They could technically just put Tubby on trial over and over and lamb chop this.

My original endgame plan

 

[Jon]

Can't tag someone and blow them up if you're in jail.

I expected him to be able to tag just not kill, but that makes sense. But even still, if he's in jail, and Zell chooses to kill Alu, wouldn't Tubby win then too?

I may be crazy here, but I STILL see a scenario where all three can win...

 

[shortkut]

I expected him to be able to tag just not kill, but that makes sense. But even still, if he's in jail, and Zell chooses to kill Alu, wouldn't Tubby win then too?

I may be crazy here, but I STILL see a scenario where all three can win...

Yes. If mafia kills town then bomber wins

 

[Christina]

He's forced Alu to pick the winner. If Alu doesn't pick, that's still picking a mafia win.

There's no win for the citizens anymore is there.

 

[Jon]

By the same token, if Tubby AND Zell are arrested, neither can kill, Alu is juror, convicts both and city wins.

 

[shortkut]

By the same token, if Tubby AND Zell are arrested, neither can kill, Alu is juror, convicts both and city wins.

Not sure if that can happen… @VashTheStampede ?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Yall I'm trying to count to 10 like a million times right now

 

[Christina]

Yeah, its 2 votes for jail. Kelley's doesn't count because he's dead at end of day.

 

[Jon]

I mean, Vash confirm with 3 players left, there is 1 juror. And there needs to be 2 arrests. He also just confirmed that when there is one mafia left, and jailed, they cannot kill. We know the bomber can't when arrested....

So unless Vash confirms it can't, this is STILL anyone's game.

 

[Jon]

Yeah, its 2 votes for jail. Kelley's doesn't count because he's dead at end of day.

OH! Did I misread that? 2 votes to arrest, not two arrests happening... got it. I will shut up now.

 

[Christina]

They jail Zell. No kill tonight, Tubby kills Alu and wins or they vote to kill Zell and Tubby wins. They jail Tubby, mafia wins. They don't jail anybody, Zell kills Tubby and mafia wins.

 

[Christina]

They jail Alu and Zell kills Tubby and mafia wins.

 

[finlandguy]

Town could win if there's two arrests, both are found guilty, and it's Zell and Tubby. But yeah.

For us in the US we are close to the be phone alert.

I didn't get it. GG on the fancy system.

 

[TD]

Poor Alu.
Stuck playing for a draw again.