VTS Mafia The Morgue (Year 2)

[TD]

Also I missed it.

How did Tubby get himself off everyone's radar?

 

[TD]

Vash did say Alu wasn't the one to ask about quoting originally though, and Benzine didn't seem to know it was allowed, which suggests maybe the Mafia didn't figure it out until after Benzine was killed. Which means Alu wouldn't have quoted an animal for his tell the first day.

This doesn't mean Alu didn't know.

The first to ask could've been mafia. Maybe Alu is mafia and already knew, so put it out there for everyone.

If anything it's just caused more chaos and overanalyzing of Zell instead of looking back at the other days.

It's kinda hilarious and if Alu is mafia, great fucking play.

 

[finlandguy]

.... what if rng was a bitch and multiple mafia have the same tell?

 

[Kat]

Votes for arrest this day:
Kut for Zell 1
Kelly for Tubby 1
Jon for kut 1
Local for Tubby 2
Local for Alu
Local for Tubby 2
Local for Jon 1
Local for Zell 2
Fool for Kut 2
CG for Zell 3
Kelly for Zell 4
Tubby for Zell 5
Vash posts count with Zell at 4 (missing cg)
Alu for Zell 6 (but he thought it was 5)
Fool for Tubby 2
Local for Jon 1 (and he thinks it brings Zell to 4)
Tubby for Jon 2
Vash posts count with Jon and Zell at 2
Kelly for Jon 3
Alu for Jon 4

You guys... I think Zell really is Mafia. Why else would Local switch off him to avoid an arrest when he's been saying over and over that Zell is 100% Mafia?

 

[Kat]

My guess: Fool, Local, Zell for Mafia, Tubby for bomber.

 

[Kat]

Also I missed it.

How did Tubby get himself off everyone's radar?

It looks like Local started a bandwagon on Jon, which Tubby hopped on, and everyone else followed to make sure there was an arrest.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Also I missed it.

How did Tubby get himself off everyone's radar?

Hinted at Patsy

 

[VashTheStampede]

With shortkut's vote, the Bailiff's move was effectively meaningless, though we do get to see kut's vote

 

[TD]

It looks like Local started a bandwagon on Jon, which Tubby hopped on, and everyone else followed to make sure there was an arrest.

Hinted at Patsy

#TeamTubby
Love it.

With shortkut's vote, the Bailiff's move was effectively meaningless, though we do get to see kut's vote

From a trial perspective yeah but I suspected it was a move to gather information. If not, well, missed opportunity.

 

[Kat]

With shortkut's vote, the Bailiff's move was effectively meaningless, though we do get to see kut's vote

So it seems kut isn't the bailiff, and whoever is thinks Local is guilty, but doesn't seem to be saying so publicly.

 

[Kat]

Hinted at Patsy

I don't understand why this was simply taken at face value.

 

[TD]

Or thinks FR is a mafia member who knows too much and wants to see what others would do.

Alu going over 30 is interesting.

 

[TD]

I don't understand why this was simply taken at face value.

In these games people tend to believe role claims at face value for... some reason.

 

[TD]

If the Librarian is killed tonight, does the shush still happen?

(Which btw - I feel like it should be a night action and not a day before action)

 

[VashTheStampede]

If the Librarian is killed tonight, does the shush still happen?

(Which btw - I feel like it should be a night action and not a day before action)

Shushes expire with the shusher

 

[Kat]

Or thinks FR is a mafia member who knows too much and wants to see what others would do.

Alu going over 30 is interesting.

Vash said it was a standing order for whoever voted not guilty, not specifically targeted at Fool.

 

[TD]

Shushes expire with the shusher

I like this. Good to know.

 

[TD]

Vash said it was a standing order for whoever voted not guilty, not specifically targeted at Fool.

...okay so the Bailiff really thinks LH is guilty.

Interesting.

 

[TD]

So if canadaguy is the Librarian and dies tonight...

LH and Alu both look pretty interesting.

 

[TD]

I think Zell is the Bailiff.

 

[Kat]

Why's that?

 

[TD]

Why's that?

Mostly a feeling with his behaviour and how he was interacting with Local.

I haven't really changed my mind on mafia/bomber... yet.

 

[Kat]

I'm curious as to if anybody thinks the librarian post limit should be set to a different number. This number was a big back and forth on what it should be.

Thirty seems to work well. It's high enough that people are still able to talk through things, and occasionally even post off topic, but low enough that off topic posts are rare enough that it's not a chore to read through the thread for game information. And it's not like it's a hard limit; people can and have gone over if they felt it was worth it.

 

[Kat]

Mostly a feeling with his behaviour and how he was interacting with Local.

I haven't really changed my mind on mafia/bomber... yet.

He didn't seem suspicious of Local though, not really. I don't have any competing theories, though.

 

[TD]

Kelly still reeks of 100% bad guy with the way he's posting though.

I have next to no doubt that him and FR are mafia. Still leaning Alu as the 3rd but less sure about that.

 

[Kat]

What do you think of the voting record I posted? Anything jump out at you as suspicious?

 

[TD]

What do you think of the voting record I posted? Anything jump out at you as suspicious?

I missed this!

So I took a different approach. I looked at what FR and Kelly are doing because I'm convinced they are mafia.

They've voted for shortkut, Zell, Tubby, and Jon.

I would say none of those 4 are mafia.

 

[TD]

Day 1 final tally is interesting too...

Fool's Requiem (7) - Tubby23, TD, Tommy Boy, Jon, Local Hero, canadaguy, Jawneh
Benzine (3) - Zell 17, shortkut, Jawneh
shortkut (2) - Joseph Snapple, Smacktard
canadaguy (2) -  Alu, Fool's Requiem
Tubby (1) - Dean

 

[TD]

Kelly, Alu, FR in particular...

 

[Kat]

I agree that if Kelly is evil, Zell is probably innocent, since Kelly added the fourth vote for him.

What do you think of FR avoiding the Zell bandwagon? If Zell is really innocent, he'd be such an easy person to falsely accuse. He also didn't vote for Jon when that bandwagon started, though I'm not sure if he's been posting since that happened.

 

[Kat]

Alu and FR voting together on CG is pretty interesting. I might go back through the first couple of days and see what the overall voting history is there.

 

[Kat]

Ugh, I wish they'd just convict Local. Even if he's really the snitch, his ability won't get used again (IMO it's a waste of a trial for information that might not even be helpful), but knowing his role would be so useful.

 

[VashTheStampede]

TD, put your Gumshoe hat back on.

What would you have guessed for Tells last night and tonight?

 

[Kat]

Obviously I'm not TD, but asterisks!

 

[VashTheStampede]

I've loved seeing all the asterisks because it takes me back to evading the profanity filters on old GW

 

[Kat]

Still think Zell is the bailiff?

 

[Kat]

@VashTheStampede would "man" or similar count as an animal name? Because technically humans are animals.

 

[Kat]

Nevermind, you just answered it in the day thread

 

[Kat]

Why is Zell so afraid of going over 30 posts? Being shushed would be an easy way to exonerate himself, wouldn't it?

The bomber is going to have an interesting time picking a target tonight. Pretty much all the Mafia suspects have 25+ posts.

 

[Benzine]

What's the most obscure animal you know

 

[Benzine]

I wouldn't say I'm exactly keeping up with the game anymore or anything, but I'll read some posts and look at a specific word and think "hmmm, does that have another meaning, like the specific gendered version of a create?" and then googling... "define call".

 

[VashTheStampede]

What's the most obscure animal you know

One of them was used today and no one has caught it yet

 

[VashTheStampede]

Probably won't ever see it, honestly

 

[Kat]

Looking at the page Zell linked gives a LOT of possibilities.

 

[VashTheStampede]

City is toast.

Hard for me to see anything other than a Mafia win at this juncture.

 

[Benzine]

I have a few animals that I am confident would pass as other words easily enough.

 

[Benzine]

Glad to have contributed so much

 

[Kat]

I have a few animals that I am confident would pass as other words easily enough.

The only one I could think of was using the phrase "you reap what you sow" but I think that'd catch some attention. Although maybe not, given what else has escaped notice...

 

[VashTheStampede]

"Here is evidence that this person is unequivocally a mobster. Now I will vote to arrest a completely different individual."

I am screaming

 

[Kat]

Right?!

Please please please let cg shush Local. I want to see if that asterisk pops up in his one post.