Ben Wolf Paranormal Post-Mortem

[Jon]

Nah, I think it's good as is. Makes the role more fun and deadly.

I agree 100%. I was just presenting the devil's advocate position. I think it's fine the way it is.

 

[dimmerwit]

I think TD is fixated on me being bad. I get that my actions looked suspicious but they were in reality just a chain of coincidences. I didn't even see Kat's vote or post before mine yesterday, but even if I did then me joining the bandwagon at that point would have been terrible wolf strategy.

 

[Jon]

I think TD is fixated on me being bad. I get that my actions looked suspicious but they were in reality just a chain of coincidences. I didn't even see Kat's vote or post before mine yesterday, but even if I did then me joining the bandwagon at that point would have been terrible wolf strategy.

He just put it together.

 

[Ben]

TD is starting to work out what's going on, yeah.

It's real hard for me not to post "I promise I haven't fucked anything up, yet!" 'cause I don't want to confirm anything for them.

 

[Ants!]

Oh yeah, forgot the reason why I didn't even bother to try to play the innocent card postmortem. It was because I died by priest. Can't fake that, so I didn't even try. Hilarious that they still considered the possibility that I was trickstered though. lol

 

[Ants!]

Noooooooo leave Benzine alone!!

 

[Jon]

Noooooooo leave Benzine alone!! bawl

I feel like Vash is playing like he does when he's a wolf. Or he's super busy lol (and sick, he mentioned he wasn't feeling well)

 

[dimmerwit]

OK, I get why I was confused. Loup Garou is just a generic term for a werewolf in French - I didn't see Ben used it specifically as the Scribe's name.

 

[Ben]

OK, I get why I was confused. Loup Garou is just a generic term for a werewolf in French - I didn't see Ben used it specifically as the Scribe's name.

It's big in Cajun culture (so yeah, French). Largely associated with stalking graveyards and such. I wanted to keep a number of werewolf-type cryptids in there so figured it was the most "manipulating death" option.

 

[Ants!]

Just had a really fun thought but can't share it yet in case something different happens and Christina pops back in here to read it. Maybe post-game.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

If they can't figure out who the last wolf is, this is going to take forever.

 

[Jon]

If they can't figure out who the last wolf is, this is going to take forever.

Most of the town is "confirmed" in some capacity. Shouldn't take too long.

 

[dimmerwit]

It's big in Cajun culture (so yeah, French). Largely associated with stalking graveyards and such. I wanted to keep a number of werewolf-type cryptids in there so figured it was the most "manipulating death" option.

Yeah, it's a good name. I just think it's funny that instead of thinking of the obvious my brain read it literally and TD is from Canada so I thought there was a non-zero chance he just used the French to add some flourish.

 

[Ants!]

If they can't figure out who the last wolf is, this is going to take forever.

 

[Ants!]

Still find it kind of annoying when the game is won by people doing role claims and then figuring out the baddies by process of elimination.

I wonder what it would be like if we had a wolf game where none of the roles were provable and the baddies had some way to hide a tiny bit better?

 

[Jon]

I wonder what it would be like if we had a wolf game where none of the roles were provable and the baddies had some way to hide a tiny bit better?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Still find it kind of annoying when the game is won by people doing role claims and then figuring out the baddies by process of elimination.

I wonder what it would be like if we had a wolf game where none of the roles were provable and the baddies had some way to hide a tiny bit better?

If you had guessing roles on both teams where if you blabbering your role, they could kill you by "guessing" your role, you'd see people stop claiming roles immediately unless their information demanded attention.

The caviat is that if you guess wrong, you die instead, which would lead to mind games. One guess a day phase. One guesser on the wolves, one on the town, and the SK. Guess attempts are handled via PM. You need the SK to be able to guess in case they're on their own against a specific team, and to keep townies from feeling safe if a wolf guesser was tricked.

It's something done in modded Among Us to avoid people from blabbing roles and deducting who is bad.

 

[Jon]

If you had guessing roles on both teams where if you blabbering your role, they could kill you by "guessing" your role, you'd see people stop claiming roles immediately unless their information demanded attention.

The caviat is that if you guess wrong, you die instead, which would lead to mind games. One guess a day phase. One guesser on the wolves, one on the town, and the SK. Guess attempts are handled via PM. You need the SK to be able to guess in case they're on their own against a specific team, and to keep townies from feeling safe if a wolf guesser was tricked.

It's something done in modded Among Us to avoid people from blabbing roles and deducting who is bad.

In my defense, I outted my role immediately only because I was infected. It was the logical (imo) way to help the town, my team, win. I was dead either way, and it made no sense for me to not disclose my role and what information I had. I had no way of knowing there was a talk to the dead role that I could have passed my information on to, so staying silent seemed counter productive to my team. Contrary to popular believe, I am a team player. My PLAN was to mostly keep my information to myself until I was told I was infected.

Overall, I agree with Ants' sentiment, though. I don't like the games where it's "EVERYONE SAY YOUR ROLE SO WE KNOW THE BADDIES" route. And I've often spoke out against that method of playing.

I'm sorry if my play bothered anyone.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

In my defense, I outted my role immediately only because I was infected. It was the logical (imo) way to help the town, my team, win. I was dead either way, and it made no sense for me to not disclose my role and what information I had. I had no way of knowing there was a talk to the dead role that I could have passed my information on to, so staying silent seemed counter productive to my team. Contrary to popular believe, I am a team player. My PLAN was to mostly keep my information to myself until I was told I was infected.

Overall, I agree with Ants' sentiment, though. I don't like the games where it's "EVERYONE SAY YOUR ROLE SO WE KNOW THE BADDIES" route. And I've often spoke out against that method of playing.

I'm sorry if my play bothered anyone.

no no, you were fine. you were dead anyway. if we had guessing roles, you could have used that you your advantage. You could pass your info give no reason for why you were doing so and let the evil guesser to waste their shot on a player who was going to die anyway.

 

[Ben]

In my defense, I outted my role immediately only because I was infected. It was the logical (imo) way to help the town, my team, win. I was dead either way, and it made no sense for me to not disclose my role and what information I had. I had no way of knowing there was a talk to the dead role that I could have passed my information on to, so staying silent seemed counter productive to my team. Contrary to popular believe, I am a team player. My PLAN was to mostly keep my information to myself until I was told I was infected.

Overall, I agree with Ants' sentiment, though. I don't like the games where it's "EVERYONE SAY YOUR ROLE SO WE KNOW THE BADDIES" route. And I've often spoke out against that method of playing.

I'm sorry if my play bothered anyone.

Working out what role to lie and claim as a wolf, thinking it's expected, is the most nerve wracking part for me. If role claiming wasn't a thing, it'd be much easier to kill everyone.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Also, that's why I refuse to give up my role regardless of what team I'm on. I hate blabbing roles and feel that it's contrary to the spirit of guessing who is good and bad. It also makes people lazy in providing their information.

 

[Ben]

Ah tits, I don't know if I can answer Kat's question without implicitly confirming that there's a scribe.

Good job I have a meeting to go to and shouldn't be responding anyway!

 

[Ants!]

If you had guessing roles on both teams where if you blabbering your role, they could kill you by "guessing" your role, you'd see people stop claiming roles immediately unless their information demanded attention.

I like this idea. In fact I used something like it in my Acolytes game with a non-violent solo could end the game and be the sole winner if they correctly guessed 5 peoples roles privately via PM (only one attempt a day) to make people more cautious about role claiming. The dice rolled vampire/vampire hunter instead so it hasn't been officially tried yet, but I think maybe the threat of them maybe being in the game still works. Hopefully.

Working out what role to lie and claim as a wolf, thinking it's expected, is the most nerve wracking part for me. If role claiming wasn't a thing, it'd be much easier to kill everyone.

That too. You always have to pick a non-provable role, or a semi-provable one with enough cojones to do it. But then it gets increasingly difficult every time a gunner or priest or warden or witch proves themselves beyond doubt.

Also, that's why I refuse to give up my role regardless of what team I'm on. I hate blabbing roles and feel that it's contrary to the spirit of guessing who is good and bad. It also makes people lazy in providing their information.

I may start adopting that strategy on principle too. I think next time I'm a villager and the heat is on me, I'll just take the noose and laugh about it.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I may start adopting that strategy on principle too. I think next time I'm a villager and the heat is on me, I'll just take the noose and laugh about it.

I was hoping it would happen in the last game with me as Avenger. Whether it worked for good or for bad, I was going to laugh my ass off.

 

[Ants!]

Ah tits, I don't know if I can answer Kat's question without implicitly confirming that there's a scribe.

Good job I have a meeting to go to and shouldn't be responding anyway!

Yeah I'm not sure what's fair there. She has a point about the night phase order not being posted like it is in Zells games, was that intentional or did you forget?

 

[Ben]

Yeah I'm not sure what's fair there. She has a point about the night phase order not being posted like it is in Zells games, was that intentional or did you forget?

I forgot to include it in the first post, as I didn't copy all of his regular mechanics explanation and just assumed everyone got it at this point. But I also realize I had copied the priority out of rktaker's last DBZ game, which used the old priority listing. Zell had an updated one in the Wolfbot UAT threads, but it would still be missing the scribe.

I think the fairest thing to do, and truthful, is to just say where I would have included the Scribe hypothetically. Even if it somehow sells out that there is a scribe in play, it builds in some doubt as to what could have gone down.

 

[dimmerwit]

Yeah. I'd assumed it's an anytime thing like the Trickster but the description doesn't say that.

 

[Ben]

Yeah. I'd assumed it's an anytime thing like the Trickster but the description doesn't say that.

Zell's description does state "The Wolf Scribe can select a player at night", but his dictionary also doesn't even list an aura for the role. I had already edited that in as just being Evil like everything else, though.

 

[Jon]

Just as long as it's not a gun, I don't do guns.

 

[dimmerwit]

I could have delivered some firepower. Alas...

 

[dimmerwit]

Honestly I'd eat pretty much anything, but the McRib is probably the nastiest fast-food product I've ever eaten.

When I went to Germany you can get them as it's a standard product there, but why would you?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Honestly I'd eat pretty much anything, but the McRib is probably the nastiest fast-food product I've ever eaten.

When I went to Germany you can get them as it's a standard product there, but why would you?

you're the nastiest fast-food I've ever eaten.

 

[dimmerwit]

I know humans are supposed to taste like pork, but I can't taste worse than a McRib.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Christina, when you get access to this thread, I want to know that you're actually the last wolf. Ben thought it would be funny if he gave a wolf a townie role and not tell them. We were against it, but Ben is god here. Sorry that you have to find out this way. Ben just intends to kill one townie at random each night to make it seem like a wolf is killing people even though the last wolf has not a single murderous bone in their body (in the game).

 

[Jon]

I know humans are supposed to taste like pork, but I can't taste worse than a McRib.

I'll take that BBQ sauce though.

 

[Ben]

@Kat blazes into the afterlife.

@Christina is also back.

 

[dimmerwit]

So did Kat kill me then?

 

[Ants!]

I'll take that BBQ sauce though.

That's literally the only reason people like it, even if they don't admit it. Anything tastes good with BBQ sauce, even grandma. It's like a cheat code.

 

[Jon]

That's literally the only reason people like it, even if they don't admit it. Anything tastes good with BBQ sauce, even grandma. It's like a cheat code.

 

[Ants!]

The question is: was that an Ants! is perverted joke? Or a Jon is a wolf joke?

You decide.

 

[Jon]

The question is: was that an Ants! is perverted joke? Or a Jon is a wolf joke?

You decide.

Can't both be true?

 

[dimmerwit]

I'd happily eat the McDonalds BBQ sauce out of the tub. It's magical.

 

[Ben]

They have a BBQ burger now. Basically the McRib without the questionable meat.

I mean... Not quite as questionable.

 

[Ants!]

Is there such thing as a bad barbecue sauce though? I know I haven't tried them all, but I have yet to taste one that wasn't at least kinda good.

I'll stick with my Sweet Baby Rays though

 

[Ants!]

They have a BBQ burger now. Basically the McRib without the questionable meat.

I mean... Not quite as questionable.

Burger King used to have this "Rodeo Burger", that was pretty affordable and pretty good. It hat BBQ sauce and onion rings on it. I miss that one.

Fuck the McRibb with a cactus. Bring back the Rodeo Burger.

 

[Kat]

Still find it kind of annoying when the game is won by people doing role claims and then figuring out the baddies by process of elimination.

I wonder what it would be like if we had a wolf game where none of the roles were provable and the baddies had some way to hide a tiny bit better?

The town had a very long losing streak recently. IMO role claiming isn't a death sentence for the evils unless they get very unlucky (which can go the other way too). It just means they need to lie convincingly and take risks to become seen as more proven.

I would say this is a game where the cryptids got quite unlucky with night one RNG.

Zell's description does state "The Wolf Scribe can select a player at night", but his dictionary also doesn't even list an aura for the role. I had already edited that in as just being Evil like everything else, though.

I was a wolf scribe a few games back, and the role description was wrong at that time. He actually let me pick a target whenever, which would explain why it's not on the night order list. I figured I'd ask you about it a bit more vaguely so you could answer without giving away whether there was a scribe or not (which I think you did fine).

I think this might be the first time I've ever been lynched as a townie.

 

[Kat]

So did Kat kill me then?

No! It was Vash, the wolf scribe!

 

[Kat]

... Unless you are really a wolf?

 

[Ants!]

I mean... Not quite as questionable.

 

[Ants!]

... Unless you are really a wolf?

What if I told you I was trickstered?