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Do you think he'll be all surprised Pikachu face when they give him all the science papers to look at on vaccines?

Not that I believe vaccines cause autism, but I would rather my kid be autistic than be dead or suffer through polo or measles.
No, he's seen them. He will likely use some fake report written by a 3rd grader to defend his position.

Oh! Side game! Who lasts longer? Vash in this game or RFK as head of HHS?
 

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Also I feel it's really shitty that people fear monger autism. Autistic people are normal people. Just like ADHD, dyslexic, and even psychopathy. All these types of brains have been around forever but people just fear what they don't understand.
We're where the legends of 'changelings' came from!

Medieval parents couldn't accept why their kids understood things they hadn't been taught, etc. and assumed their children had been replaced by faeries.

They'd just leave us in the woods.

So yeah, the world has always been a danger to the different folks. We've just now got ghouls trying to put us back 200 years.
 

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Dyslexia is more of an annoyance for the person suffering than anything else.
People assume you're dumb. Mine had a frustrating part of I was really smart with all the other subjects in school. Had a high vocabulary when talking, so it was assumed I just wasn't trying when it came to spelling and not focusing when reading. Lot of trama tears for me in my childhood about it.

I love learning about different ways people's brains function. The newest one was into psychopathy.

Also I cannot understand the people who do not hear a voice in their head. How do they have thoughts? How does that work? It makes no since to me.
 

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I was always trash at reading out loud because my brain would jumble up words as I was reading them or I would randomly skip words, making sentences make absolutely no sense. Caused a bunch of stuttering.

As a result, I just did everything I could to not read out loud.
My sister taught me a trick that helps me with that. Put a blank piece of paper under what you are reading to block out the words under it. It helped me a lot. These days I always try to have dark mode set because it's easier to read. Certain fonts can help too. There was one made for dyslexia at some point which has nice spacing and clean letters to make it easier.

My dyslexia comes out more when writing/typing just do to the amount of work I had to put in in childhood on reading. I do not notice when I add or leave out negatives, prefixes, suffixes and sometimes even whole words. I can reread what I type but my brain just fills in what I think I wrote instead of what is there. Fuck homonyms. Also I want to start a petition to get ride of all but 1 vowel. We only need 1. They are all interchangeable and sound like each other depending on the word.

I do like being dyslexic for other things. A better spacial awareness. An ability to order things and see the bigger picture of how things work better.
 
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I was always trash at reading out loud because my brain would jumble up words as I was reading them or I would randomly skip words, making sentences make absolutely no sense. Caused a bunch of stuttering.

As a result, I just did everything I could to not read out loud.

Im not dyslexic but when reading I do sometimes misread words, my brain does an autocorrect and I misread the word
 

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@dimmerwit is here.

Also, I believe I'm supposed to only be letting Christina talk to the dead at night, so while I hadn't given a crap before when none of you were dead, I've revoked her access to this until the end of the day.
 

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It took me a sec too, because I don't think any of Zell's games have had the Scribe.
This may be a lot to give Christina. It confirms from the wolf side that there is still a fourth wolf. Which will get revealed when there is another wolf kill, but they could choose to not kill and hide if they so choose.

If you want to edit this part out, i'll edit mine. If you don't care then neither do I :link
 

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This may be a lot to give Christina. It confirms from the wolf side that there is still a fourth wolf. Which will get revealed when there is another wolf kill, but they could choose to not kill and hide if they so choose.

If you want to edit this part out, i'll edit mine. If you don't care then neither do I :link
Yeah, I figure it's going to be pretty hard to avoid her finding out stuff once she's back in this thread. Even just dimmerwit saying he wasn't a wolf would give that away.

That's why I opted to just remove her access for the rest of the day, so that she at least won't find that out until the next night phase when it might be made obvious anyway.

So I say fuck it. If she comes back tonight and learns some mysterious grave-knowledge, at least she gets to do something this game.
 
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Yeah, I figure it's going to be pretty hard to avoid her finding out stuff once she's back in this thread. Even just dimmerwit saying he wasn't a wolf would give that away.

That's why I opted to just remove her access for the rest of the day, so that she at least won't find that out until the next night phase when it might be made obvious anyway.

So I say fuck it. If she comes back tonight and learns some mysterious grave-knowledge, at least she gets to do something this game.
Works for me! It's why those roles are strong anyway. Because seeing this info is beneficial. If you're ok with it, so am I!
 
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Works for me! It's why those roles are strong anyway. Because seeing this info is beneficial. If you're ok with it, so am I!
Yeah, I'm fine with it.

I also think the likelihood that they work it out by the end of today is high anyway. I see at least 2 ways they could find out before Christina even sees this.
 
Yeah, I figure it's going to be pretty hard to avoid her finding out stuff once she's back in this thread. Even just dimmerwit saying he wasn't a wolf would give that away.

That's why I opted to just remove her access for the rest of the day, so that she at least won't find that out until the next night phase when it might be made obvious anyway.

So I say fuck it. If she comes back tonight and learns some mysterious grave-knowledge, at least she gets to do something this game.
I thought that was the whole point of having a role that can talk to dead players, to get info from them? That's why I clam up as a wolf because the game is still going on, but I figured anything from an actual townie was fair game. Dimmerwit could be lying, or someone might not believe Christina's role claim if she comes out in the open with it.
It's part of the game. I've tried to manipulate a talk-to-the-dead role as a dead wolf before, which sort of worked for a bit!

Also if you believe that I'm town it's literally the only way I can appear like that.
Exactly, I've tried to do that the last time I died as a trickster, trying to stick to my role claim of Avenger and that Zell made a mistake. Alu just wouldn't stop arguing with me though. lol

Only reason why I'm not doing the same this time (dead trickster wolf again but claimed bell ringer) is because that can't fool anybody unless I get lynched.
 
Just checked my role again, looks like it could have worked after all if I had a mind to. It's plausible a wolf trickster could have predicted my death because I had the most votes and people were openly suspicious of me. Kat could have been accused of being the Wolf Seer, or just a wolf making a false seer claim like Zell keeps suggesting and planning to appear confirmed by working with the trickster.

Too bad I was too slow to consider that and too quick to give the game up :duh2
 

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I think the primary thing to avoid, when there's a 'speak to the dead' is just me not giving out the full list of who is what. Or inadvertently confirming that in any way. If it's coming from players, then it's still up in the air as to whether it's true or not.

Anyway, I have an update to post, so we're going to see some stuff.
 
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Just checked my role again, looks like it could have worked after all if I had a mind to. It's plausible a wolf trickster could have predicted my death because I had the most votes and people were openly suspicious of me. Kat could have been accused of being the Wolf Seer, or just a wolf making a false seer claim like Zell keeps suggesting and planning to appear confirmed by working with the trickster.

Too bad I was too slow to consider that and too quick to give the game up :duh2
Trickster was what I was when I tried my post-death thing. It was more plausible for me because I died at the end of the day so there was theoretically plenty of time for a Trickster to hit. The role is basically designed to cause confusion, and sometimes that can work even if you are the real Trickster.
 
I think the primary thing to avoid, when there's a 'speak to the dead' is just me not giving out the full list of who is what. Or inadvertently confirming that in any way. If it's coming from players, then it's still up in the air as to whether it's true or not.

Anyway, I have an update to post, so we're going to see some stuff.
Ah okay. That makes sense.
 

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How did that even happen? I targeted Quartz and all of a sudden two people have a disease that aren't quartz.
You infected Quartz, the dead body. But the Wolf Seer also viewed Quartz so got infected, and then the Paranormal Tracker viewed the Wolf Seer and thus got infected as well.

I was kind of torn on how to proceed with that, as the seer abilities come before the Solo Killer 'kill', so they'd viewed Quartz prior to the dead body technically getting infected... But then the role description says "Any player who uses a seer ability on a player who becomes successfully infected that night also becomes infected." So I resolved to it being some magical bullshit and causing a chain of seer-transmitted-infection.
 

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You infected Quartz, the dead body. But the Wolf Seer also viewed Quartz so got infected, and then the Paranormal Tracker viewed the Wolf Seer and thus got infected as well.

I was kind of torn on how to proceed with that, as the seer abilities come before the Solo Killer 'kill', so they'd viewed Quartz prior to the dead body technically getting infected... But then the role description says "Any player who uses a seer ability on a player who becomes successfully infected that night also becomes infected." So I resolved to it being some magical bullshit and causing a chain of seer-transmitted-infection.
I think you handled it fine.

The only possible argument would be that the seer has to view the MAIN infected one instead of the secondary (so in this case Quagmire would have been infected but not me), but either way, I think you handled it as Zell intended the role to be.
 
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I think you handled it fine.

The only possible argument would be that the seer has to view the MAIN infected one instead of the secondary (so in this case Quagmire would have been infected but not me), but either way, I think you handled it as Zell intended the role to be.
Nah, I think it's good as is. Makes the role more fun and deadly.
 
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