Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 3 Day 2

[Christina]

Wolf was the idea, although it was kind of a failed attempt and didn't make it very hard to find...

I thought the robed figure looking like an alchemist...

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Wolf was the idea, although it was kind of a failed attempt and didn't make it very hard to find...

that's what I though, unfortunate that it made the wolf super obvious.

 

[shortkut]

When does the day end?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

When does the day end?

late. 10 EST.

Unless we skip.

 

[Ants!]

 

[Ants!]

When does the day end?

A little over eight hours from now, unless I get 10 skips.

 

[Jon]

A little over eight hours from now, unless I get 10 skips.

I skipped when the shadow when off. FYI

 

[Ants!]

I skipped when the shadow when off. FYI

You're just one person though, but you're probably thinking 10 rounded down equals 1.

 

[Jon]

You're just one person though, but you're probably thinking 10 rounded down equals 1.

Ok, Elsa.

 

[canadaguy]

 

[shortkut]

Ok, Elsa.

He wouldn’t be Elsa because Elsa wants to let it go and obviously ants doesn’t

 

[Aluse Cannon]

Man, work gets in the way here.

Ben claimed flagger for anyone who missed it. I missed whatever it was local claimed.

I'm unsure as why the red lady would visit a confirmed townie at all rather than just not using a power, but at this point if we don't have a talk with the dead role then the only way the red lady can give us a read on an evil person is by announcing who they're visiting before the day phase ends.

 

[Jon]

He wouldn’t be Elsa because Elsa wants to let it go and obviously ants doesn’t

Ok, Heisenberg.

 

[Jon]

I'm unsure as why the red lady would visit a confirmed townie at all rather than just not using a power,

Because it acts as pseudo protection?

 

[Local Hero]

Man, work gets in the way here.

Ben claimed flagger for anyone who missed it. I missed whatever it was local claimed.

I'm unsure as why the red lady would visit a confirmed townie at all rather than just not using a power, but at this point if we don't have a talk with the dead role then the only way the red lady can give us a read on an evil person is by announcing who they're visiting before the day phase ends.

 

[Aluse Cannon]

Because it acts as pseudo protection?

But when there's an out in the open gunner as well as another confirmed townie it's unlikely that a random person is going to end up getting targeted. I mean I understand a bit, it's just an odd move from my perspective.

 

[Aluse Cannon]

Here's the thing though:

If everything goes poorly we could have a wolf kill, a black potion, and then a red to either myself or kat. If all of those target townies, then that's 3 deaths.

Unless we can guarantee we're going to hit an evil with a lynch we're going to help the evils kill off a 4th (we're going to need to coordinate in plain view and they could easily jump on whatever incorrect target we choose).


We also have the solo voter out there, which could easily be something like Jon with a target of me (just going on harping that I could be the alchemist for a bit there, but good also doesn't mean much considering he's not claiming a role that has knowledge and is just tossing ideas out there to get discussion going). It could obviously also be a fool or a headhunter with any target really. Cupid would still be fun to have pop up.

 

[Christina]

The only reason I'm not more suspicious of Kat is because of how easy so many including Tommy Wolf who jumped on that lynch this morning.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I'm not going to criticize how people use their roles. I used Red Lady with reckless abandon.

 

[Jon]

I'm not going to criticize how people use their roles. I used Red Lady with reckless abandon.

Only time I got red lady I chose to not visit night one and was killed by the wolves.

I don't get cool roles like all you.

 

[Ants!]

I'm not going to criticize how people use their roles. I used Red Lady with reckless abandon.

Slut.

Only time I got red lady I chose to not visit

Prude.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Only time I got red lady I chose to not visit night one and was killed by the wolves.

I don't get cool roles like all you.

I actually got Bell Ringer in the past. Also, got an actual useless role in the game Kat hosted.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Slut.

I'd wear that badge with pride.

 

[shortkut]

@Al hominem which direction are you leaning?

 

[Jon]

I actually got Bell Ringer in the past. Also, got an actual useless role in the game Kat hosted.

I don't think Bell Ringer is as useless as people say it is. I know it's a meme with us, but when you guess right, it's got power.

That said, I don't like roles that have so much luck behind them but are restricted by usage. If you guess right on low percentage odds, you deserve to be able to use it again. Just put a restriction on something like "can't use it with less than 8 players left" or something to not make it super simple. Or let them use it twice because most of the time they are lucky hitting once.

 

[Christina]

So if our seers are check each other tonight, what happens when you both say red tomorrow? There are no more shaman wolves to hid behind and we are stuck with you 2 point fingers at each other?

 

[Jawneh]

I'm not going to criticize how people use their roles. I used Red Lady with reckless abandon.

I think I've been the red lady 3 times.

Twice I think I died night 1 lol. Once for sure.

 

[Jon]

So if our seers are check each other tonight, what happens when you both say red tomorrow? There are no more shaman wolves to hid behind and we are stuck with you 2 point fingers at each other?

At that point, I lean Alu because at least he's had other collaborative information.

That said checking each other is silly in my opinion. Announcing you're checking each other is even sillier.

 

[shortkut]

At that point, I lean Alu because at least he's had other collaborative information.

That said checking each other is silly in my opinion. Announcing you're checking each other is even sillier.

I know I wasn’t serious, and I don’t think Alu was either

 

[Jon]

I know I wasn’t serious, and I don’t think Alu was either

I assumed a little tongue in cheek, but stranger things have happened this game.

 

[Aluse Cannon]

I know I wasn’t serious, and I don’t think Alu was either

Correct.

Especially because I said I was also checking myself as part of it lol

 

[shortkut]

Correct.

Especially because I said I was also checking myself as part of it lol

Anyway, where are you leaning for your vote?

 

[Aluse Cannon]

Seers himself right now

Came back yellow please help

 

[shortkut]

Seers himself right now

Came back yellow please help

That’s no good. After a few seconds, yellow normally changes to red and you have to stop

 

[Aluse Cannon]

Anyway, where are you leaning for your vote?

I'm still currently leaning toward not voting

 

[shortkut]

I'm still currently leaning toward not voting

Was there confirmation that not voting would outweigh a vote?

 

[Local Hero]

Seers himself right now

Came back yellow please help

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I've had this happen to me. They were having difficulty finding my veins.

 

[Aluse Cannon]

Was there confirmation that not voting would outweigh a vote?

There's a requirement of 5 for a lynch and the wolves can only get to 4 by themselves.

Unless they have a cupided wolf paired with a townie they can't get to 5 if no one else votes with them (either by accident or by discussing it in public and following through on it). If none of the townies vote, it relies on the wolves and solos somehow coordinating on a target. If there's a non-wolf arguing for someone who also happens to be a non-wolf I'd be weary of that person being a headhunter at this point.

 

[Local Hero]

I've had this happen to me. They were having difficulty finding my veins.

I would never to that to you.

 

[Christina]

I've had this happen to me. They were having difficulty finding my veins.

They can find mine real easy but as a nurse once told me, "your veins are smaller than they look" and they blow them out a lot.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

They can find mine real easy but as a nurse once told me, "your veins are smaller than they look" and they blow them out a lot.

My issue was/is that I'm pretty pale. They actually thought I wasn't feeling well because they asked me why I was so pale.

 

[shortkut]

There's a requirement of 5 for a lynch and the wolves can only get to 4 by themselves.

Unless they have a cupided wolf paired with a townie they can't get to 5 if no one else votes with them (either by accident or by discussing it in public and following through on it). If none of the townies vote, it relies on the wolves and solos somehow coordinating on a target. If there's a non-wolf arguing for someone who also happens to be a non-wolf I'd be weary of that person being a headhunter at this point.

I like it. I’ll no vote too

 

[Ben]

Also boarding the no-vote train. And skip.

 

[canadaguy]

I am voting no vote as well.

SKIP

 

[Kat]

I would love for you to visit me and prove my innocents but I had this scandal with the gunner and I'm now with child and I worry that has made me a bigger target.

You.. uh, what?

We are also now under shadow and a wolf died of a black potion. You have the red then, so don't fear dropping died just yet.

Sounds like the wolf was Tommy and somebody said "can't hide behind a shaman anymore" so I assume we know all the wolf roles now? What was he?

That also being said Kat. One more potion and you are dead anyways, so maybe calling your shot and hopefully proving something would be a better way to die than by potion.

Hmm, this is true. I'm not much of a bonus target if I'm doomed to die tomorrow anyway (which seems likely).

I’m thinking you’re headhunter and your target is already dead

Wouldn't somebody just admit that? They win with the town in that case, right?

From the red lady description: "Cannot be attacked directly and killed at night by wolves/solo if they are visiting"

I assume this means alchemist potion is still delivered, since it is not a direct/kill at night

If not then @Benzine @Ants! please give my potion back to the alchemist.

I’m willing to vote someone other than jawneh tonight because he made a good point about not being able to talk to Vash last night. I will await his updated gif tomorrow

Lmao, I would hope he learned that lesson. You know he's not seriously claiming ritualist though, right?

I'm unsure as why the red lady would visit a confirmed townie at all rather than just not using a power, but at this point if we don't have a talk with the dead role then the only way the red lady can give us a read on an evil person is by announcing who they're visiting before the day phase ends.

This is a fair point. In retrospect, visiting Fools was probably riskier than not visiting anybody. It's not like the wolves were likely to target me. My only justifications are 1) using abilities is more fun than not using them and 2) this post-covid fatigue and brain fog is killing me. That's also why I haven't been posting much this game.

Does not voting anybody really make sense? Can't we just out vote the wolves if they only have four votes? (It's hard for me to tell how many people are alive with no poll, so apologies if the math actually isn't in our favor).

 

[Aluse Cannon]

Does not voting anybody really make sense? Can't we just out vote the wolves if they only have four votes? (It's hard for me to tell how many people are alive with no poll, so apologies if the math actually isn't in our favor)

Do you know for certain that someone is a wolf/the alchemist/solo but not fool?

That's the problem with voting, if a single person votes for a townie that the wolves go for, the townie is lynched. If we don't know for sure who to target, we'd still need at least 5 people to agree and 0 people to agree with the wolves (purposely or not)

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Does not voting anybody really make sense? Can't we just out vote the wolves if they only have four votes? (It's hard for me to tell how many people are alive with no poll, so apologies if the math actually isn't in our favor).

sure, let's just lynch at random, hope we hit a wolf, and hope that everyone actually votes for them. There are 4 people who would likely love for us to accidentally lynch a townie. We could have more depending on if we have a Cupid and who they paired. Advocating for anything but a no-vote and not skipping is a very wolf like attitude.

We currently have a number advantage. If even one of us votes in favor of the wolves, we could very well be down 3 townies by next mid-day.

 

[canadaguy]

Do you know for certain that someone is a wolf/the alchemist/solo but not fool?

That's the problem with voting, if a single person votes for a townie that the wolves go for, the townie is lynched. If we don't know for sure who to target, we'd still need at least 5 people to agree and 0 people to agree with the wolves (purposely or not)

We are also VERY at risk if we don't hit the alchemist or a wolf with the lynch. We are looking at a potential triple townie kill tonight (wolf plus alchemist black potion and a second red to someone), so giving them a free 4th one would be bad.

 

[Jon]

Sounds like the wolf was Tommy and somebody said "can't hide behind a shaman anymore" so I assume we know all the wolf roles now? What was he?

He was a second Shaman. All 4 wolf roles have been revealed and they have no powers left. Dimmerwit and Tommy were Shamans and there is a Berserker and Shadow now with both powers used.

Hmm, this is true. I'm not much of a bonus target if I'm doomed to die tomorrow anyway (which seems likely).

Alu also has a red on him. If I'm the alchemist, I'd think he's a bigger issue than you at this point. You may not be guaranteed dead tonight.