Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 2 Day 4

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

The lesson here is to always lynch Alu and Vash. They're too dangerous to let live

It did work out that we managed to convince people to not vote for us despite the reads...and then convinced the town to vote for a townie.

 

[Quagmire]

Also I require dead thread access so I can decide if I'm ever playing again

 

[Quagmire]

It did work out that we managed to convince people to not vote for us despite the reads...and then convinced the town to vote for a townie.

This seems to happen, a lot...granted I wanted them to vote a townie

 

[dimmerwit]

Had the town won, your loudmouth target was very important

@canadaguy who had you doused with gasoline up to that point?

It's on the spreadsheet since he told us:

 

[dimmerwit]

So Ants, Vash and Quagmire, excluding dead people (and a Dead Body).

 

[VashTheStampede]

There's still a chance Vash is Voodoo and I will DDoS this website if that turns out to be true.

Might need a pre-emptive ban on this guy BTW

 

[Quagmire]

A spread, so was the Dead body douse just wasted and not transferred?

 

[Ants!]

I knew ants was legit, and therefore kat was as well. FR's read putting Vash on a different team. I could believe FR because I was actually reading him as being what he said he was.

The way people were playing made it pretty obvious (to me) based on the bit of extra knowledge I had. Like I said I had to refrain from saying a lot I otherwise would have.

But again I had the extra knowledge of being 100% sure on ants.

You were so certain that my read on you was false, like not even making an argument about it, just going forward as if it were an established fact and also not going hard against me like an accused wolf might but leaning more on the shaman theory, and then being so ready to go along with lynching Quagmire. I was like damn, either he really was shamaned or this is a sacrificed-wolf play (plausible because Quagmire didn't really fight it at all) and Alu is just the most talented liar ever. Lol

 

[Quagmire]

or this is a sacrificed-wolf play (plausible because Quagmire didn't really fight it at all)

I gave my side and that is really all I can do, Im not gonna drag on for pages and messages upon messages, I dont find that changes my mind when other players do that, so Im not going to do it, I'll state my piece and be done with it. Im not gonna go hard whether Im lying or telling the truth. If someone asks or it comes up again, I'll bring it up.

I gave my pitch to lynch you over me last night and then went to bed.

Plan wasnt to sacrifice, needed to have all 4 lives (including the alpha's two) to have a chance.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

You were so certain that my read on you was false, like not even making an argument about it, just going forward as if it were an established fact and also not going hard against me like an accused wolf might but leaning more on the shaman theory, and then being so ready to go along with lynching Quagmire. I was like damn, either he really was shamaned or this is a sacrificed-wolf play (plausible because Quagmire didn't really fight it at all) and Alu is just the most talented liar ever. Lol

Hey, until I straight up said "BH" to Tommy I wasn't lying at all!

I said I had an unknown aura and was a role that was mostly useless that the wolves wouldn't want to target. The longer the SV lives on the shakier it is for the town to want to try to lynch someone in fear of them being the fool.

I also said I didn't need to chat with Benzine since the first night. Granted I didn't need to chat with him that night either.

 

[Local Hero]

Post in thread 'Not Zell Wolf 2 Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/not-zell-wolf-2-day-2.2593/post-159864

You can lead a town to water but you can't make them lynch

 

[canadaguy]

Aura Seer is OP in a game with bullets. This game had p much no bullets.

It had plenty. Town just used them against themselves repeatedly

 

[Ants!]

It had plenty. Town just used them against themselves repeatedly

It was an elaborate ploy to sacrifice more townies just to piss you off further.

 

[canadaguy]

Had the town won, your loudmouth target was very important

@canadaguy who had you doused with gasoline up to that point?

I've been over this a thousand times.




All the wolves plus the solo.

 

[canadaguy]

It was an elaborate ploy to sacrifice more townies just to piss you off further.

All a gimmick sir.

 

[Zell 17]

Summary thoughts:

Well deserved town loss
Bad luck to wolves
Very bad luck to canadaguy
Amazing luck for Alu

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

Summary thoughts:

Well deserved town loss
Bad luck to wolves
Very bad luck to canadaguy
Amazing luck for Alu

It was very lucky for sure. I still needed to play it right by not being too avid to jump on Ants, but I doubt it would have worked out had everything not aligned just right on the last day.

It was really the only day I had a chance at anything working out for me.

 

[canadaguy]

A spread, so was the Dead body douse just wasted and not transferred?

So actually I hit shortkut, but since he got swapped with the dead body, EVERYTHING got swapped in the process.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

So actually I hit shortkut, but since he got swapped with the dead body, EVERYTHING got swapped in the process.

Nah, the Canadian expression for beating a dead horse is lighting a dead horse on fire, don't lie to us.

 

[Quagmire]

It was very lucky for sure

Ive played 4 games, a lot of luck seems to be involved every time

 

[canadaguy]

Nah, the Canadian expression for beating a dead horse is lighting a dead horse on fire, don't lie to us.

Benzine explained it and we agreed the douse should go to the dead body in the swap.

This meant I didn't actually know which was doused and which one was swapped.

Then shortkut announced he got swapped for me.

 

[dimmerwit]

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[Quagmire]

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TBF if she was a witch she would have been a good nightmare target

 

[Local Hero]

 

[canadaguy]

Wow you topped yourself dimmerwit! Bravo sir

 

[VashTheStampede]

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This is the coolest fucking thing ever

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Moral of the story: Vote banana, don't let her manipulate you.

 

[canadaguy]

Moral of the story: Vote banana, don't let her manipulate you.

For mvp? Just maaaaybe

 

[Quagmire]

Moral of the story: Vote banana, don't let her manipulate you.

Gonna lynch her next time first day and she will either be the fool or a strong villager

 

[Ants!]

I stopped believing banana was for the town the first night she failed to kill. We just had better targets than her starting with Jawneh, then canadaguy and Quagmire reveals on the same day and then Alu the day after that and Vash/FR.

 

[Tommy Boy]

I'm not sure why Tommy ever bought it so readily though. He said I posted before it was known there was a Medium/Ritualist despite the fact that Benzine had told us he couldn't reveal information and that Tommy actually posted there before I did.

I lied, plain and simple. I stretched the truth in hopes it was true. Welp..

 

[Tommy Boy]

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

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It sparks plenty of joy. Just ask Benzine.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

@Ben just tagging again to say we need an unplanned for badge in the headhunter. Expect no one to ever win it again though

 

[Smacktard]

The lesson here is to always lynch Alu and Vash. They're too dangerous to let live

Hey now, I fucked it up pretty well for the town to by hounding Ants so much that we all moved off of a wolf

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

Hey now, I fucked it up pretty well for the town to by hounding Ants so much that we all moved off of a wolf

Well you first moved off me to ants, then to a wolf, then back to ants. It was an eventful day for sure.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Ben just tagging again to say we need an unplanned for badge in the headhunter. Expect no one to ever win it again though

Do we have a badge for the Serial Killer? THAT'S going to be the role no one wins with.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

Do we have a badge for the Serial Killer? THAT'S going to be the role no one wins with.

Not yet. It's another one of those where we'll get to it when we get to it

 

[Fool's Requiem]

in one way its kind of flattering that people think im some brilliant liar so thank you for that.

lol

 

[Smacktard]

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This is one of the greatest things I've ever seen

 

[Kat]

I couldn't believe it was happening to be honest. I sat back and watched other people lead the charge up until people started moving away from him. And then for some reason no one was questioning me about why I really preferred ants over the obvious wolf choices of, well, all of them (sorry Vash and Banana, I knew you were wolves and just couldn't say anything about it)

It made sense, he was accusing you and you were claiming he had your aura wrong. Both you and Quagmire were voting for Ants most of the day.

What the heck was Kat? dimmerwit's chart thing is showing her blank for me.

I was a flower child. I thought it might come in handy due to the voodoo wolf, so I didn't want to tell them I could block lynches.

I've been in a similar situation before where Vash was evil and I knew it somehow but Kat and Benzine kept saying I was super suspicious (for some reason)

I never said you were super suspicious. I said you could be lying if you were a sorcerer (wolf seer would be another possibility), or your reads could just be wrong (see Alu). I never voted for you, and said several times we shouldn't go after you because we couldn't afford to lynch a townie.

Well played, @Al hominem . I certainly didn't see that coming.

 

[Tommy Boy]

@Fool's Requiem as a person who forgot to flag that night one last game, welcome to the “forgot action and now I look super guilty” club. lmao

 

[Quagmire]

@Fool's Requiem as a person who forgot to flag that night one last game, welcome to the “forgot action and now I look super guilty” club. lmao

Honestly now that we've seen it twice, gonna see this moved pulled out

 

[Ben]

@Ben just tagging again to say we need an unplanned for badge in the headhunter. Expect no one to ever win it again though

I saw the request. Just haven't had time to work on it yet. I'll try to bang something out by the end of today, after I remind myself what the headhunter even does.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I saw the request. Just haven't had time to work on it yet. I'll try to bang something out by the end of today, after I remind myself what the headhunter even does.

Headhunter
Aura: Unknown
At the beginning of the game they will be given a villager to target at random. If that player is lynched, the headhunter wins. If that player is killed by some other means, the headhunter becomes a villager with no powers (even if the target is revived). If the headhunter is killed, they cannot win as the headhunter even if revived. If the player does not die, the headhunter loses. The following roles cannot be the headhunter target: Gunner, Bully, Priest, Conjuror, Flower Child.

 

[Jawneh]

But yeah, Team Wolf surviving so long was a surprise. I thought after Jawneh imploded that it was over. Nice to see that my death had the intended effect (sorry @Tommy Boy).

It was still only the second day and we had 3 wolves compared to 2 in a normal game. It was going to be harder, but definitely not that bad. Just gotta remember that.

I feel sad that the wolves didn't question my motives for staying in Ants the whole day.

Also I did jokingly go after Ants on the first day a bit and he called me out for it. Was trying to set up a "was suspended on you from the start!" Thing there.

I was reading the situation for the wolves being either take a chance with you as a potential fool, Quaqmire as a fellow wolf, or Ants. Plus potential W in sight for the wolves soon after probably also clouded some judgement. I sure wasn't considering anything headhunter.

Then the Fake Ritualist play happened and I figured that was that, but I hung in there for my wolf teammates. Last couple days I would wake up randomly through the night and check my phone to see how things were going.

I luckily avoided that this game lol. 100% has happened before lol.

Next game I'll be a ritualist right away. Just yall wait.

 

[dimmerwit]

I saw the request. Just haven't had time to work on it yet. I'll try to bang something out by the end of today, after I remind myself what the headhunter even does.

He hunts heads.

 

[Zell 17]

I loved Jawneh play btw, just gotta nail down that one detail lol

 

[Jawneh]

I loved Jawneh play btw, just gotta nail down that one detail lol

I wanted to do something different. And I don't think any wolves or baddies have even tried to claim a solo role, much less a talk to the dead role.

 

[Quagmire]

after I remind myself what the headhunter even does.

Nothing