Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 2 Day 4

[Benzine]

Ants! has been lynched. Ants! was the Aura Seer.

And the headhunters target. The game is over. The winner is Alu.

 

[Quagmire]

Well damn, fun game lads

 

[Smacktard]

lmao

 

[Smacktard]

the ded thred is going to be chaos

 

[dimmerwit]

Not surprised Alu was the solo. A shame of sorts it ended the way it did, but ho hum.

 

[dimmerwit]

Link

 

[Smacktard]

Me when banana is a wolf:

 

[dimmerwit]

Me watching people give Banana so much leeway for being a "rookie":

One of the sharpest minds in the game IMO.

 

[Smacktard]

Me watching people give Banana so much leeway for being a "rookie":

One of the sharpest minds in the game IMO.

It's refreshing that there's another player who's not afraid to lie

 

[Zell 17]

To Banana:

 

[Quagmire]

Me watching people give Banana so much leeway for being a "rookie":

One of the sharpest minds in the game IMO.

Yeah when she did nothing night 3 I assumed she would be lynched next

 

[Quagmire]

It's refreshing that there's another player who's not afraid to lie

I just assumed everyone lied in this game

 

[A Punched Face]

I had to go out of my way to "not notice" or just not say anything about so much. That was ridiculously hard.

Also can't believe that no one was thinking I could have been headhunter or that Ants could have been the target.

But at least I didn't lie, my aura was unknown.

 

[Zell 17]

I just assumed everyone lied in this game

Not as well. Feels like the wolves had victory in this game and it was stolen from them, honestly feel bad for them getting the headhunter target here is just unlucky.

 

[A Punched Face]

There's no Headhunter Badge lol. I guess we assumed no one would ever win or just didn't bother otherwise.

@Ben can you throw together a Headhunter badge that I can be awarded!


Also does this mean I'm MVP by default after saying literally in the last game that it's not like I'm out here winning MVPs?

 

[Quagmire]

Not as well. Feels like the wolves had victory in this game and it was stolen from them, honestly feel bad for them getting the headhunter target here is just unlucky.

I felt like we had a good shot, but it was still going to be tough, I was praying for two coupled townies

 

[A Punched Face]

Not as well. Feels like the wolves had victory in this game and it was stolen from them, honestly feel bad for them getting the headhunter target here is just unlucky.

I couldn't believe it was happening to be honest. I sat back and watched other people lead the charge up until people started moving away from him. And then for some reason no one was questioning me about why I really preferred ants over the obvious wolf choices of, well, all of them (sorry Vash and Banana, I knew you were wolves and just couldn't say anything about it)

 

[Quagmire]

But at least I didn't lie, my aura was unknown.

You can thank me for that aura, I figured Ants was about to check you

 

[A Punched Face]

If you didn't then it likely wouldn't have gone down this way today to be honest. So yeah, thanks on that!

 

[Quagmire]

I couldn't believe it was happening to be honest. I sat back and watched other people lead the charge up until people started moving away from him. And then for some reason no one was questioning me about why I really preferred ants over the obvious wolf choices of, well, all of them (sorry Vash and Banana, I knew you were wolves and just couldn't say anything about it)

You and I had the same problem of being "evil", well I was, but Ants got the same reading on both, but it seemed like Vash was a likely target and just kind of fell off. I thought for sure Vash or Banana was next, it is weird at how sometimes the town goes for and who they dont

 

[dimmerwit]

I couldn't believe it was happening to be honest. I sat back and watched other people lead the charge up until people started moving away from him. And then for some reason no one was questioning me about why I really preferred ants over the obvious wolf choices of, well, all of them (sorry Vash and Banana, I knew you were wolves and just couldn't say anything about it)

I think a good part of it was people just wanting to honour Ants' withdrawal and not thinking about the game.

 

[dimmerwit]

But yeah, Team Wolf surviving so long was a surprise. I thought after Jawneh imploded that it was over. Nice to see that my death had the intended effect (sorry @Tommy Boy).

 

[Quagmire]

I think a good part of it was people just wanting to honour Ants' withdrawal and not thinking about the game.

I was glad to get a townie, but he made it easy to vote for. Still figured Banana or Vash were going to be the ones to get the most heat, but not even close

 

[Quagmire]

But yeah, Team Wolf surviving so long was a surprise. I thought after Jawneh imploded that it was over. Nice to see that my death had the intended effect (sorry @Tommy Boy).

I was worried about that and then Jon coming back, we couldnt attack him and it was another townie vote

 

[Zell 17]

I was worried about that and then Jon coming back, we couldnt attack him and it was another townie vote

If Jon tagged Banana you could have killed him and then Tommy and nobody would ever know who Jon tagged. But if Ants wasn’t the HH Target I think you win anyways. 9 left after lynch, 8 after night kill. And now the village has to lynch Quagmire or Vash or else it’s GG. If they go Banana (hasn’t poisoned in eons) or Alu (Evil by dead Aura seer) the wolves win.

Lynching Banana is a wolf win because Vash can mute a townie and tie the vote the following day, and the wolves kill off Alu who almost certainly wouldn’t be protected by Kelly.

 

[A Punched Face]

I think a good part of it was people just wanting to honour Ants' withdrawal and not thinking about the game.

People were voting for him before that! It was only after he said he was withdrawing until more moved away.

Also yeah I obviously knew he was a real seer because he was my target, so I knew Quagmire was really a wolf. I also knew his first read on Kat was real and therefore Vash was definitely a wolf (sorry FR!) and banana was obvious by the end as well.

But I wasn't about to say anything about that though.

 

[Quagmire]

People were voting for him before that! It was only after he said he was withdrawing until more moved away.

Also yeah I obviously knew he was a real seer because he was my target, so I knew Quagmire was really a wolf. I also knew his first read on Kat was real and therefore Vash was definitely a wolf (sorry FR!) and banana was obvious by the end as well.

But I wasn't about to say anything about that though.

I figured he was a seer early, but I could have been shamaned just like you were even if unlikely

I do notice how the last couple games people always say you're never much of a target and you kind of hide and then come out and go back and never catch heat for it

 

[Smacktard]

I just assumed everyone lied in this game

Most people if they're wolves just barely post.

You and I had the same problem of being "evil", well I was, but Ants got the same reading on both, but it seemed like Vash was a likely target and just kind of fell off. I thought for sure Vash or Banana was next, it is weird at how sometimes the town goes for and who they dont

I was sure Vash was evil, and I thought Quagmire was too. For some reason I was less sure on Alu. I figured Banana was the final wolf, or maybe Ants was the wolf and Banana really was the witch, but they were coupled together.

I first thought Alu or Kat were Cupid, but this didn't make sense. Really didn't think Alu was the headhunter, though.

 

[Zell 17]

I think this game is good evidence that Aura Seer is not nearly as OP as many think, and certainly having an aura seer call you evil isn’t a death sentence.

@Ants I’m sorry it got so stressful. That’s part of the hard part of wolf, especially when you are good you just want to say “WTF is wrong with you idiots!”

 

[Smacktard]

People were voting for him before that! It was only after he said he was withdrawing until more moved away.

FWIW I still had this alarm set for 15 mins before the lynch today lolz:

 

[Quagmire]

Most people if they're wolves just barely post.

Thats what I did the first game, I was the solo killer, but it was also my first game, now I just have to act the same no matter my role and shit post all the time so no one can get a read on me

Kind of why I thought Kat might be a coupled player as she didnt post much

 

[Smacktard]

I think this game is good evidence that Aura Seer is not nearly as OP as many think, and certainly having an aura seer call you evil isn’t a death sentence.

@Ants I’m sorry it got so stressful. That’s part of the hard part of wolf, especially when you are good you just want to say “WTF is wrong with you idiots!”

Aura Seer is OP in a game with bullets. This game had p much no bullets.

 

[Quagmire]

I think this game is good evidence that Aura Seer is not nearly as OP as many think, and certainly having an aura seer call you evil isn’t a death sentence.

@Ants I’m sorry it got so stressful. That’s part of the hard part of wolf, especially when you are good you just want to say “WTF is wrong with you idiots!”

We thought about killing him, I forget why we never did. Zell was our first target due to his knowledge of the game and detective role can be similarly dangerous as Seer. I do think it is a very strong role, wonder how it would have gone had @Local Hero not started the game off by taking this piss about being an aura seer as Ants wouldnt have had to come out so soon

 

[Quagmire]

Aura Seer is OP in a game with bullets. This game had p much no bullets.

Yep, I would have been gunned down if there were was a gunner

 

[Fool's Requiem]

If only people had voted for Vash....

 

[Smacktard]

If Jon tagged Banana you could have killed him and then Tommy and nobody would ever know who Jon tagged. But if Ants wasn’t the HH Target I think you win anyways. 9 left after lynch, 8 after night kill. And now the village has to lynch Quagmire or Vash or else it’s GG. If they go Banana (hasn’t poisoned in eons) or Alu (Evil by dead Aura seer) the wolves win.

Lynching Banana is a wolf win because Vash can mute a townie and tie the vote the following day, and the wolves kill off Alu who almost certainly wouldn’t be protected by Kelly.

FWIW I would've advocated for going after Vash the next day rather than Banana or someone else. Voodoo is too powerful the longer the game goes on.

Between my flag and Jon's avenger, I think there's a decent chance the town would've won if the head hadn't been hunted

 

[A Punched Face]

If only people had voted for Vash....

No they did the right thing

 

[Quagmire]

FWIW I would've advocated for going after Vash the next day rather than Banana or someone else. Voodoo is too powerful the longer the game goes on.

Between my flag and Jon's avenger, I think there's a decent chance the town would've won if the head hadn't been hunted

Who were you planning on protecting if the game went on? We werent sure if you were covering yourself or not, I think we would have gone after you and rolled the dice as the more townies there are the greater odds you werent protecting yourself

 

[Smacktard]

Who were you planning on protecting if the game went on? We werent sure if you were covering yourself or not, I think we would have gone after you and rolled the dice as the more townies there are the greater odds you werent protecting yourself

I said I'd flag Tommy. I wouldn't like about that, would I?

 

[A Punched Face]

FYI Benzine initially thought about rerolling me because he thought it might be boring

 

[Quagmire]

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FYI Benzine initially thought about rerolling me because he thought it might be boring

Another @Benzine mistake, he should have

 

[A Punched Face]

I wanna see what everyone was saying in the dead thread

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I'm happy a Headhunter finally got a win, but I am so disappointed too.

I'd probably be more disappointed if Ants wasn't a Headhunter target because I really felt like he had proven himself as a Seer.

 

[dimmerwit]

I wanna see what everyone was saying in the dead thread

It wasn't that active. Also, I was still playing up my role as Preacher.

I'm not sure why Tommy ever bought it so readily though. He said I posted before it was known there was a Medium/Ritualist despite the fact that Benzine had told us he couldn't reveal information and that Tommy actually posted there before I did.

 

[Quagmire]

I wanna see what everyone was saying in the dead thread

Dead thread is often fun, there is no 12hr down period, you can shit post 24hrs a day!

 

[Quagmire]

It wasn't that active. Also, I was still playing up my role as Preacher.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

What the heck was Kat? dimmerwit's chart thing is showing her blank for me.

 

[dimmerwit]

What the heck was Kat? dimmerwit's chart thing is showing her blank for me.

We don't know for sure since Benzine couldn't reveal info because of the Ritualist.

On that matter, I'm going to assume you really were the Seer Apprentice turned Detective? I only put 100% confirmed stuff on there.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

We don't know for sure since Benzine couldn't reveal info because of the Ritualist.

On that matter, I'm going to assume you really were the Seer Apprentice turned Detective? I only put 100% confirmed stuff on there.

that is correct

 

[Ants!]

especially when you are good you just want to say “WTF is wrong with you idiots!”

That was it exactly, and I'm surprised at myself for getting so upset over it. I've been in a similar situation before where Vash was evil and I knew it somehow but Kat and Benzine kept saying I was super suspicious (for some reason) but I had a town role, but back then I took it in stride until Vash's marksman role claim proved false and got lynched. I'm thinking probably the difference between this game and that game is that back then things were going really good in my life off-screen, but this time I'm going through a lot of other shit and had an especially rough last couple of days and my mental fortitude for it just wasn't there this time.

Really didn't expect Alu to be the headhunter, and crazy to think if I held out then Quagmire would have been lynched, and he WAS the shaman wolf and I would have semi-believed Alu who was quite convincing. Banana probably would have been the next lynch though unless I deceived to check either Vash or FR next or if the wolves killed me next, but Kelly was probably most likely to be my next seer pick. And if we lynched Banana we probably would have lost if the next wolf kill evened the numbers.

Mad props to Quagmire for guessing my seer pick despite my best efforts to evade him, sorry to Kelly for not believing you (especially while getting upset about not being believed myself). And sorry to the wolves for taking away your win. I did want the town to win after they killed me but I never considered I might be the head hunters target. Yall played really great and if you won it would have been deserved.

I don't think I'll play wolf again though until things are going better for me and I feel sure enough in my own state of mind. Right now I know I'm compromised, and I don't want anyone to feel like they need to put on kiddy gloves with me or if I get a wolf role and people feel like they can't doubt me because of how I might react. But maybe sometime in the future I'll feel okay with playing again.