Zell Wolf Not Zell Wolf 2 Day 4

[Fool's Requiem]

Or fool who's hoping to get lynched the next day

yeah, that too

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I reaaaaaaaaallllllly want to give benefit of the doubt

 

[Smacktard]

Settle down folks, we still have a whole 12 hours to completely change our minds and strategies.

I WILL say it's reassuring to see the votes that Ants has on him atm, but 2/3 of them are obligated to vote for him, after all.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

SKI-

 

[Ants!]

Only four people left for me to check tonight, if I'm capable:

banana
Kelly
Fools Requiem
Vash

It would be hard for me to intentionally outwit the shaman this time, as a case could be made for picking any of them so there are four "obvious" choices, which means no obvious choice. 1/4 chance the shaman tricks me, assuming there is one. Who will it beeeeeeee?

 

[Smacktard]

Ants, why specifically are YOU convinced there's a shaman? Is there someone on wolf team spilling the beans?

 

[Jon]

Ants, why specifically are YOU convinced there's a shaman? Is there someone on wolf team spilling the beans?

Because Alu said he was BH

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Ants, why specifically are YOU convinced there's a shaman? Is there someone on wolf team spilling the beans?

There was doubt regarding the Kat alignment outcomes and Alu claiming he wasn't evil.

 

[Ants!]

Ants, why specifically are YOU convinced there's a shaman? Is there someone on wolf team spilling the beans?

Intentionally ignoring the "assuming there is one" part. Dude literally every time I mentioned shaman I said "possibility" or "IF". I try to be honest about the credibility of my claims, and also I try to lower the risk of a corrupted seeing when I make my choices at night because that makes sense to me.

Why are you gunning so hard for me anyway? Literally yesterday you said you believed me because of GwJumpman.

 

[Quagmire]

Ants, why specifically are YOU convinced there's a shaman? Is there someone on wolf team spilling the beans?

I'm the farmer

And Alu is claiming townie spot

 

[Jon]

I'm the Bell Ringer.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I have ZERO proof, but I feel like if Quagmire gets lynched and is a wolf, he is not the alpha and they don't have a Guardian. The claimed baddies are avoiding voting to lynch him, but Vash was fine to vote Alu right off the bat.

If Quagmire is a wolf, I bet he has an important wolf role and Alu is the Alpha.

Neither are the Wolf Trickster because Ants wouldn't see them as Evil.

 

[A Punched Face]

I'm the farmer

And Alu is claiming townie spot

I mean there's a reason he was asking Ants and not you or I. I know my role for sure and only my role (well I guess I know Jon and Tommy as well), so I can guarantee that Ants is either lying to try and get townies lynched and a wolves a victory or that there's a shaman that hit me the same night Ants looked.

Those are the only two possibilities (for me, knowing fully what I am).

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I'm the Bell Ringer.

I'm the Bell Wolf Sorcerer Avenger Cupid Ringer.

 

[A Punched Face]

I have ZERO proof, but I feel like if Quagmire gets lynched and is a wolf, he is not the alpha and they don't have a Guardian. The claimed baddies are avoiding voting to lynch him, but Vash was fine to vote Alu right off the bat.

If Quagmire is a wolf, I bet he has an important wolf role and Alu is the Alpha.

Neither are the Wolf Trickster because Ants wouldn't see them as Evil.

The alpha doesn't have evil aura.

 

[Smacktard]

Intentionally ignoring the "assuming there is one" part. Dude literally every time I mentioned shaman I said "possibility" or "IF". I try to be honest about the credibility of my claims, and also I try to lower the risk of a corrupted seeing when I make my choices at night because that makes sense to me.

Why are you gunning so hard for me anyway? Literally yesterday you said you believed me because of GwJumpman.

Because I think you're coupled with a wolf, and the other wolves are starting to realize that their time is ticking too.

You're the only one who CONTINUALLY keeps referencing a hypothetical shaman wolf. It feels like you setting yourself up to protect against a mislynch.

"Whoops, didn't realize Quagmire really was a farmer. Must've been that pesky idea of a shaman wolf I implanted in your minds 7 pages ago."

 

[Fool's Requiem]

The alpha doesn't have evil aura.

Oh yeah. Cool.

 

[Jon]

Because I think you're coupled with a wolf, and the other wolves are starting to realize that their time is ticking too.

You're the only one who CONTINUALLY keeps referencing a hypothetical shaman wolf. It feels like you setting yourself up to protect against a mislynch.

"Whoops, didn't realize Quagmire really was a farmer. Must've been that pesky idea of a shaman wolf I implanted in your minds 7 pages ago."

I feel semi-vindicated that you're saying this now.

Does that make me crazy? Don't gaslight me.

 

[Ants!]

Because I think you're coupled with a wolf, and the other wolves are starting to realize that their time is ticking too.

You're the only one who CONTINUALLY keeps referencing a hypothetical shaman wolf. It feels like you setting yourself up to protect against a mislynch.

"Whoops, didn't realize Quagmire really was a farmer. Must've been that pesky idea of a shaman wolf I implanted in your minds 7 pages ago."

Or I could be telling the truth. What exactly makes that so hard to believe? You seeing some massive hole in my story? Voice it then, because you haven't yet. Literally all you have to go on is that I place others as higher on the priority list than banana, and you try to twist that as me defending her despite there are several people saying "yeah give her one more night to prove herself" and that list of people does not include me, and I've even said multiple times that I'm fine with killing her, given valid reasons why she could be fool or you could be head hunter, and yet you keep harping on this narrative anyway and give us nothing on why you're so 100% convinced I can't possibly be telling the truth.

 

[Quagmire]

I feel semi-vindicated that you're saying this now.

Does that make me crazy? Don't gaslight me.

 

[Ants!]

Aura seer is a weak enough role to begin with, and there is a wolf role that is specifically for corrupting seer checks and there are three wolves left which means three chances that there is a shaman. Why would I NOT be concerned about that?

 

[Ants!]

Everything I've said so far adds up and makes sense. Kelly isn't consistent because yesterday he says he believes me, now he sees me as an obstacle for banana which he has a weird obsession over (maybe because of a past argument?) and who I'm also actually fine with killing once the wolves I've caught are off the board, or if he nails her with the flagger role tonight.

Maybe that's it? I'm the only one who said "use flagger to try to kill this person" and that puts him on the defensive because he's being called to at least attempt to prove a role that he hasn't proven yet.

 

[Smacktard]

Or I could be telling the truth. What exactly makes that so hard to believe? You seeing some massive hole in my story? Voice it then, because you haven't yet. Literally all you have to go on is that I place others as higher on the priority list than banana, and you try to twist that as me defending her despite there are several people saying "yeah give her one more night to prove herself" and that list of people does not include me, and I've even said multiple times that I'm fine with killing her, given valid reasons why she could be fool or you could be head hunter, and yet you keep harping on this narrative anyway and give us nothing on why you're so 100% convinced I can't possibly be telling the truth.

Because this is a game about lying. I've given you logical reasons why I'm not the headhunter, and why it doesn't make sense banana would be the Fool when they've fought so hard to stay ALIVE, and yet you keep harping on about the possibility of both.

You don't trust me, and I don't trust you. That's the game. Why is this so hard for you to understand?

People have been saying give Banana chance to show their powers since Day 1. A lot of slack has been extended, and it doesn't make sense now. She was nightmared on two non-consecutive nights, and on the only night she wasn't, missed her saving potion, and tried to kill a townie who had already killed themselves? Give me a fuckin break.

And yet you want to wait one more night. You conveniently want to wait JUST long enough so that a Cupid couple could theoretically control the rest of the game.

I feel semi-vindicated that you're saying this now.

I've been saying Ants and Banana are sus since before you started posting today

 

[Smacktard]

banana which he has a weird obsession over (maybe because of a past argument?

Appeal to emotion + ignoring the facts

 

[Jon]

 

[Smacktard]

that puts him on the defensive because he's being called to at least attempt to prove a role that he hasn't proven yet

And yet if I proved it again, you could just say "well that dont prove nothin"

 

[Quagmire]

Appeal to emotion + ignoring the facts

 

[Smacktard]

Also don't forget the fact that banana is the ONLY person who hasn't voted for either Ants or Alu. Totally not wolf/couple behavior tho amirite lmao

Edit: Ants or Quagmire I mean

 

[Ants!]

And yet you want to wait one more night.

Quit saying that. I literally said over and over and over that I'm fine with you doing the flagger kill against her, and that's my actual preference for her to be taken out that way. There are several people that ARE saying to give her one more night, and that list does not include me.

Quit rewriting history. This is what I meant by my comparison to Trump.

It's also why I'm fine with being lynched, the not-being-believed is getting to me way more than the possibility of being taken out. And you still haven't given me a concrete reason why you're refusing to even admit the possibility that I'm telling the truth.

 

[Ants!]

And yet if I proved it again, you could just say "well that dont prove nothin"

Again? When was the first time?

 

[Ants!]

ignoring the facts

That's rich coming from you.

 

[Smacktard]

I literally said over and over and over that I'm fine with you doing the flagger kill against her

Oh yeah, just a 1/9 shot of predicting the wolf target tonight, no pressure lmao. If I can't do that then that obviously means I'm bad

 

[Smacktard]

Again? When was the first time?

I redirected the kill to Local Hero

 

[Jon]

Oh yeah, just a 1/9 shot of predicting the wolf target tonight, no pressure lmao. If I can't do that then that obviously means I'm bad

To be fair it seems unlikely the wolves take me out due to risk. And if you believe Alu is town, that's two they wouldn't likely hit. So it's more 1/7!

 

[Ants!]

I redirected the kill to Local Hero

You claimed to. Benzine didn't say how he died. Why is your claim more believable than mine?

Did you specify that you were aiming at local beforehand? I actually can't remember if you did, just that you switched who you were protecting (which I admit was smart).

 

[Ants!]

I can't take it anymore. I removed my vote from Quagmire. Please vote for me, I want out. Jon that's your preference anyway, switch your vote back to me. Only need to convince one more person.

Have fun.

 

[Quagmire]

To be fair it seems unlikely the wolves take me out due to risk. And if you believe Alu is town, that's two they wouldn't likely hit. So it's more 1/7!

 

[Smacktard]

Why is your claim more believable than mine?

My claim is more believable to me because I know my truth. Your claim is more believable to you because you know your truth. That's how this works.

If we believe you, you've found 2/3 wolves, and FR found the last one. And yet, these 3 wolves don't align with banana's actions.

So one of either you or FR are lying, because banana is almost certainly bad... I don't buy the Fool angle for Banana at all, and it seems like a really desperate cover story.

And so, if you have 2/3 wolves fingered, and Banana is the remaining wolf, FR would have no reason to lie about a seer read if he's not a wolf.l

And yet, you're not suspicious of FR. You two are voting together.

You also want to give Banana JUST enough time to control the rest of the game as Cupid team (if they exist and all 3 are still alive).

So the only thing that makes sense in my mind is that YOU are lying about 1/2 wolves that you "found" (Alu IMO, since you need to vote off 1 wolf today) using shaman as an excuse if Alu comes up town tomorrow.

 

[Smacktard]

night

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Why are people getting angry at each other?

 

[Benzine]

Why are people getting angry at each other?

they aren't

 

[Ants!]

And yet, you're not suspicious of FR.

I've listed him as suspect so many times, and even said I favor voting him over Vash.

STOP REWRITING HISTORY

 

[Smacktard]

I've listed him as suspect so many times, and even said I favor voting him over Vash.

STOP REWRITING HISTORY

Well damn dude, I can't be expected to remember the contents of every single one of the 490 posts in here!

You just said you didn't know that I redirected a flag kill even though I mentioned it multiple times too!

I legit don't remember you ONCE saying you were sus of FR.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

So one of either you or FR are lying, because banana is almost certainly bad... I don't buy the Fool angle for Banana at all, and it seems like a really desperate cover story.

I'm like 90% sure that Banana is bad. But there's like 9.99% concern of a Fool that keeps nagging at me, and 0.01% witch.

The thing is that I dont know how she plays deception type games. I don't know how good or bad she is at lying. I don't know anything about her.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

they aren't

I don't know what's going on then.

 

[Benzine]

@Raposuh i just thought of a great meme for this thread that only matters to you xoxo miss you

 

[Quagmire]

. I don't know anything about her.

We know she likes bananas

 

[Tommy Boy]

 

[Fool's Requiem]

We know she likes bananas

oh yeah, that's true.

Bananas are overrated, come at me, Ms Naner.

 

[Quagmire]

oh yeah, that's true.

Bananas are overrated, come at me, Ms Naner.

I'll do you one better, only very ripe bananas are good, the rest are trash!