VTS Mafia Mafia Legacy Year (Night 4/Day 4)

[Fool's Requiem]

Crap, totally forgot about Alu because he wasn't commenting. Sorry, Alu.

Thar is a type of wild Asian goat… going back to day 3 now

Is it really? I just typo'd.

His name is Roland and he is retired

He worked for Raytheon in a collation and photo department but his job was classified so I have honestly never known what he really did

I visited his darkroom once and it was really fucking cool

j/k

I assume he liked his job?

 

[Jon]

I assume he liked his job?

You are not even jury but sure I will answer all questions

He did for the most part but he was laid off a couple times in the 30 years he was there so it was a love hate thing

 

[Zell 17]

The quick vote by me is because there is literally nothing Jon can be except a baddie.

Three townies are basically 100% confirmed. And I know what I am. Everyone else left has to be bad.

shortkut, canadaguy, and Alu have 5 people to sort through. But only one of them is good.

 

[Smacktard]

The quick vote by me is because there is literally nothing Jon can be except a baddie.

Three townies are basically 100% confirmed. And I know what I am. Everyone else left has to be bad.

 

[Jon]

The quick vote by me is because there is literally nothing Jon can be except a baddie.

Three townies are basically 100% confirmed. And I know what I am. Everyone else left has to be bad.

shortkut, canadaguy, and Alu have 5 people to sort through. But only one of them is good.

Like I said I am the foreman so you are either completely wrong or lying and I lean to lying

That said if I the citizens were not in dire straights here I would post with punctation to kill myself and prove it

And I still will for the greater good

There is literally zero reason for me to lie here and ask @VashTheStampede about our history in the efeds

I am literally not that good at creative writing to make all this shit up lol

 

[canadaguy]

Based on the survivors from day 1 bomber list is narrowed down to:

Tubby
Jon
Zell
Shortkut

Interestingly this is the entire trial

If shortkut is truly the bailiff (and no one seems to be refuting this) that narrows it down even more.

 

[shortkut]

Alright let's quit fucking around though.

There are 8 people:

Alu
canadaguy
shortkut
Tubby
Zell
Fools
Kelly
Jon

3 of which are basically 100% confirmed city folk:
Alu - Judge
canadaguy - Librarian
shortkut - Bailiff

1 is 100% awesome guy:
Zell 17

The remainder are ALL BAD:
Smacktard
Jon
Fool's Requiem
Tubby

The only way Jon can be a city member is if I'm evil. So, I vote Jon as Guilty.

Also, I vote Smacktard to be Jailed tomorrow.

The problem is quotes allow the mafia to complete each other’s tells.

@A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE please go back and react to each of my posts as necessary . I’ve made enough posts for you to weigh in. @canadaguy what are your thoughts?
For Zell is guilty
for Kelly is guilty
For Jon is guilty
Crickey for tubby is guilty
for fool is guilty

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Three townies are basically 100% confirmed. And I know what I am. Everyone else left has to be bad.

This is some hardcore deflecting...

Voting Zell.

 

[Jon]

If shortkut is truly the bailiff (and no one seems to be refuting this) that narrows it down even more.

Furthermore there is NO reason if he is the bailiff that he does not swap someone

Therefore to me if the jury does not change it confirms my suspicion that kutty is either mafia or bomber

 

[Jon]

Following up my previous post I feel personally confident neither Fool nor canadaguy are mafia

So the bailiff SHOULD kick Zell off my jury for one of them

If not it should be pretty certain all three of Zell Tubby and Kut are mafia or bomber

I can say with almost perfect certainty Zell and Tubby are Mafia

Kut I still feel is the bomber

So short of bailiff intervention I WILL die here

But like I mentioned I am fine to be a sacrificial lamb for my citizen team and I can do so through conviction or violating my conned tell

 

[Jon]

Also also if the bomber does not kill someone during my trial it can be confirmed one of those three is the bomber as well because I am being framed for that

 

[shortkut]

Furthermore there is NO reason if he is the bailiff that he does not swap someone

Therefore to me if the jury does not change it confirms my suspicion that kutty is either mafia or bomber

Vash already has his instructions from the bailiff

Following up my previous post I feel personally confident neither Fool nor canadaguy are mafia

So the bailiff SHOULD kick Zell off my jury for one of them

If not it should be pretty certain all three of Zell Tubby and Kut are mafia or bomber

I can say with almost perfect certainty Zell and Tubby are Mafia

Kut I still feel is the bomber

So short of bailiff intervention I WILL die here

But like I mentioned I am fine to be a sacrificial lamb for my citizen team and I can do so through conviction or violating my conned tell

if you are convinced you are going to die and are innocent, post with punctuation or I will find you guilty as well. That would be 2 out of 3 votes for guilty and you’re dead anyway

 

[Jon]

Vash already has his instructions from the bailiff

How so

If he did the juror would already be switched

if you are convinced you are going to die and are innocent, post with punctuation or I will find you guilty as well. That would be 2 out of 3 votes for guilty and you’re dead anyway

This is a double edged sword coming from you and outs you as bomber in my opinion or mafia at best

If I post with punctuation now I die

If I do not you vote guilty and I die

I am happy to post with punctuation for suicide and I will IF the request comes from either canadaguy or Fool who I suspect to be fellow citizens

You I do not

 

[Jon]

Oh and it will not matter if I die and I do not know if I get a say but I vote Zell for arrest

 

[canadaguy]

if you are convinced you are going to die and are innocent, post with punctuation or I will find you guilty as well. That would be 2 out of 3 votes for guilty and you’re dead anyway

Ohhh I like this gambit.

 

[shortkut]

How so

If he did the juror would already be switched



This is a double edged sword coming from you and outs you as bomber in my opinion or mafia at best

If I post with punctuation now I die

If I do not you vote guilty and I die

I am happy to post with punctuation for suicide and I will IF the request comes from either canadaguy or Fool who I suspect to be fellow citizens

You I do not

just like there is more than one way to make a tell, there is more than one way to be the bailiff. At the time I was subbed in, who was confirmed as a townie? Who would have been safe to put on the jury?

Post with punctuation and commit suicide or I vote guilty and you die anyway

 

[Jon]

Ohhh I like this gambit.

Then I am sure you like mine lol

I am happy to post with punctuation for suicide and I will IF the request comes from either canadaguy or Fool who I suspect to be fellow citizens

 

[Jon]

If @canadaguy or @Fool's Requiem ask me to I will immediately

Or as soon as I get back from picking my daughter up from school lol

 

[shortkut]

@VashTheStampede he quoted a post with punctuation. Time for him to die

 

[Jon]

I have been quoting punctuation all along and have not died

I confirmed I could at fool safely because of his name and assumed quoting was safe otherwise I would have died LONG ago

 

[VashTheStampede]

@VashTheStampede he quoted a post with punctuation. Time for him to dieView attachment 3380

So I know that this seems counterintuitive but I have said that rules vary depending on the Tell.

If someone were to have a Tell that disallows punctuation, I would allow it in a quote.

 

[shortkut]

So I know that this seems counterintuitive but I have said that rules vary depending on the Tell.

If someone were to have a Tell that disallows punctuation, I would allow it in a quote.

 

[Jon]

Look I know you are either mafia or bomber so me killing myself benefits you

That said all it takes is a request from one of the two I trust to get me to do it

And I promise you I will

But it has to come from a citizen I trust because this puts them at a SEVERE disadvantage

 

[canadaguy]

just like there is more than one way to make a tell, there is more than one way to be the bailiff. At the time I was subbed in, who was confirmed as a townie? Who would have been safe to put on the jury?

I'm dumb. What's it mean there is more than one way?

 

[shortkut]

Look I know you are either mafia or bomber so me killing myself benefits you

That said all it takes is a request from one of the two I trust to get me to do it

And I promise you I will

But it has to come from a citizen I trust because this puts them at a SEVERE disadvantage

The only way you’re not dead is if the bailiff switched me out. You just get to choose how you die

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[shortkut]

I'm dumb. What's it mean there is more than one way?

The specificity is only required for who is being substituted into the jury, not who is being removed.

 

[canadaguy]

The specificity is only required for who is being substituted into the jury, not who is being removed.

So you can choose who goes in, but not who goes out?

 

[Jon]

At this point the three of you are fairly certainly bomber or mafia so I am dead either way as the RNG was incredibly bad to me

Even if one of you is removed the other two will vote me off the island

But I stand by my statement because I am a man of my word

Provided canadaguy or Fool request I use punctuation I will prove myself the foreman and it will out all three of you as evil for them

I do need to go get my daughter so I will do it when I get back

 

[shortkut]

So you can choose who goes in, but not who goes out?

I can choose both, but you are the first person who asked that… if you understand me

 

[Jon]

If you are the bailiff prove it and remove Zell

Tubby is mafia so he will vote to convict

So what do you have to lose as you will still hold my fate in your hands if add canadaguy to the jury

So go ahead tit for tat

Prove you are the bailiff by removing zell and adding canadaguy and I will commit suicide anyway since I will be able to trust you too to help them

But really gotta go get the girl

bbiab

 

[canadaguy]

I can choose both, but you are the first person who asked that… if you understand me

So you know some specific intricacies of a (I believe) brand new role. And I'm the first to ask about them out in the open?

 

[shortkut]

If you are the bailiff prove it and remove Zell

Tubby is mafia so he will vote to convict

So what do you have to lose as you will still hold my fate in your hands if add canadaguy to the jury

So go ahead tit for tat

Prove you are the bailiff by removing zell and adding canadaguy and I will commit suicide anyway since I will be able to trust you too to help them

But really gotta go get the girl

bbiab

If I remove Zell, I lose my leverage over you. I will state, that once the proper conditions are met, someone will be swapped for Mr. decimal

 

[Smacktard]

Look I know you are either mafia or bomber so me killing myself benefits you

That said all it takes is a request from one of the two I trust to get me to do it

And I promise you I will

But it has to come from a citizen I trust because this puts them at a SEVERE disadvantage

The thing is, kut already subbed himself in yesterday. He didn't affect the vote; rather, he did this to prove his role. It makes no sense that you would claim he's mafia/bomber when he's essentially already proven his role.

Saying the request has to come from FR makes no sense because I'm positive FR is mafia with you. I don't know what his t*ll is, but he can't be the bomber. You know FR isn't going to ask you to kill yourself.

I can choose both, but you are the first person who asked that… if you understand me

I just assumed bailiff could choose the swap in and the swap out. Maybe the bailiff can only choose either the swap in/out, but not both. I am phrasing this as a question.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Saying the request has to come from FR makes no sense because I'm positive FR is mafia with you. I don't know what his t*ll is, but he can't be the bomber. You know FR isn't going to ask you to kill yourself.

Don't tempt me. I'm out here hunting terrorists. I will ask anyone to drop dead if it means one step closer to finding the Bomber.

 

[shortkut]

Changing vote to send @Fool's Requiem to trial tomorrow

 

[Fool's Requiem]

 

[Fool's Requiem]

People on trial are safe from the Bomber, btw.

 

[Zell 17]

People on trial are safe from the Bomber, btw.

Extra safe if they are the bomber, amirite?

 

[canadaguy]

People on trial are safe from the Bomber, btw.

OK?

 

[shortkut]

@canadaguy hypothetically, do you believe the librarian has to shush anyone over 30 posts or could they choose to tell Vash “silence the second person to post more than 30 times” or are they able to pick and choose

 

[canadaguy]

@shortkut

Hypothetically

No
I don't know
Yes

 

[shortkut]

@shortkut

Hypothetically

No
I don't know
Yes

Hypothetically, would the librarian want to shush me?

 

[canadaguy]

Hypothetically they only want to use it as a way to prove their role

 

[shortkut]

Hypothetically they only want to use it as a way to prove their role

@VashTheStampede hypothetically, since jury votes are binding, if I vote guilty before @Tubby23 posts, would the trial end since there would be 2 binding guilty votes?

 

[VashTheStampede]

@VashTheStampede hypothetically, since jury votes are binding, if I vote guilty before @Tubby23 posts, would the trial end since there would be 2 binding guilty votes?

No, trial ends at end of day even if we believe we know the result.

 

[canadaguy]

@shortkut

Hypothetically

No
I don't know
Yes

Update

Hypothetically
No
Yes
Yes

 

[shortkut]

Update

Hypothetically
No
Yes
Yes

Do you now understand the alternate way to bailiff?

 

[canadaguy]

@VashTheStampede

Is the Con Man a one time use or multiple?

 

[canadaguy]

No, trial ends at end of day even if we believe we know the result.

Allows for Lawyer/judge shenanigans