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VTS Mafia Mafia Legacy Year (Night 4/Day 4)

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Trials/Death
In this game, you aren't voting to lynch anyone, you're voting to send them to jail. The person jailed is not immediately removed from the game, but instead is "put on trial" during the next day phase. Once jailed, they cannot use any special abilities until released from jail (be that by early release or being found Innocent). They are also immune to any attacks from the Mafia, solo player, or any Citizens. However, when on trial, you can feel free to role claim as much as you want to try and save your bacon. Otherwise, I ask that you refrain from any role claiming. Hinting, however, is allowed.

The minimum amount of votes to arrest a player will be roughly the number of players / 2.

A handful of players will be chosen at random as the Jury for each trial and they will decide if the player is Guilty or Innocent. Guilty players are killed and removed from the game. Jury Verdicts are decided by simple majority.

Jurors get 1 vote and cannot change it. Be sure before you make your decision.

During each day phase you will also be concurrently deciding the next player to arrest (keep an eye on those juries).

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Tells/Clues
Each mafioso will have a "Tell", which will somehow affect how they participate in the game. When a Citizen uncovers a "Clue", they will learn one of these "Tells" at random.

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Tarot Cards
Each player will be assigned a Major Arcana Tarot Card. This is mainly for randomization purposes but will be used in other mechanics as well.

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In this game there are 11 Citizen roles, chosen from the following:

Lawyer: Once per game can release a Defendant from Jail, by contacting the Governor via DM.
Gumshoe: Each night, can guess one of the Tells. If they are correct, this will be confirmed, uncovering that Clue.
Good Cop: Once per game, at night, can arrest a player to be put on trial the next day.
Vigilante: Each night, can watch over a player. If that player is attacked by the mob, a random mobster dies instead. (If the attacker was the Button Man, the Button Man will be the one killed)
Judge: Once per game, during a trial, can either release a player or condemn them to death.
The Snitch: When arrested for the first time, uncovers a Clue.
The Madam: Each night, she can provide shelter for a player, preventing kills or arrests. The protected player cannot use abilities.
Clairvoyant: Each night, uses their mystical abilities to converse with the land of the dead.
Gypsy: During the day, chooses a Tarot card from the first 16 Major Arcana (via DM to me). If the player that corresponds to that card dies, uncovers a Clue. If the corresponding player had publicly announced their Arcana, the Gypsy subsequently loses this power.
The Patsy: When killed, uncovers a Clue that is announced to the City.
The Foreman: Gets 2 votes when on a jury. Breaks ties.
The Angry Man: If placed on a Jury that finds a Citizen Not Guilty, uncovers a Clue (if they voted Not Guilty).
Bailiff: Once per trial, can switch a Juror out for a player not on the current jury. This can be a player in another jury, but they will trade places in this situation. (Via DM to me)
The Librarian: If the Librarian is in the game, anyone who makes more than 30 posts in a day can be "Shushed". "Shushed" players can only post once the following day.
Peeping Tom: Can watch a player at night. If that player is attacked, uncovers a Clue.
Barkeep: During the day can attempt to poison a player via public post. If the target is a villain, they are killed. If the target is a Citizen, the Barkeep dies instead.


In this game there are 4 Mobsters, chosen from the following:
The Don: Can only be killed by being found Guilty at Trial. There will always be a Don in the game.
The Consigliere: Each night can investigate a player, discovering their role.
The Cleaner: Twice per game can prevent deceased player roles from being revealed to the City at daybreak. The Cleaner will still learn these roles.
The Button Man: Once per game, at night, can kill a player in addition to the normal mob kill.
Mob Lawyer: Once per game can release a Defendant from Jail, by contacting the Governor via DM.
The Con Man: At night, can give a Citizen a random Tell that they have to perform for the rest of the game. If they fail to perform that Tell while the Con Man is alive, the Citizen is killed.

Solo Player:
Mad Bomber: Each night, can tag a player who posted an equal or fewer times than the Mad Bomber the previous day. At any point during the day, can trigger their explosives, killing all tagged players.

Win Conditions:
Citizens: Eliminate the Mafia and the Mad Bomber
Mafia: Eliminate the Mad Bomber and have the same number of players as the Citizens
Mad Bomber: If they are alive when the last Citizen OR Mobster dies, they win.

@shortkut
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Dean

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@Tommy Boy
Jawneh
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@Fool's Requiem
Benzine
@Jon
Local Hero
Kat
Joseph Snapple

@canadaguy

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Sorry folks, no story today, I've got to get moving for a couple neuro MRIs this morning.

Tommy Boy has been killed by The Mafia. He was the Gypsy. (The Devil)

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Jon is on Trial!

Jury Selection
shortkut
Tubby23
Zell 17


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The Day has begun and will last 24 hours, until 8am CST 10/3
 

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Alright let's quit fucking around though.

There are 8 people:

Alu
canadaguy
shortkut
Tubby
Zell
Fools
Kelly
Jon

3 of which are basically 100% confirmed city folk:
Alu - Judge
canadaguy - Librarian
shortkut - Bailiff

1 is 100% awesome guy:
Zell 17

The remainder are ALL BAD:
Smacktard
Jon
Fool's Requiem
Tubby

The only way Jon can be a city member is if I'm evil. So, I vote Jon as Guilty.

Also, I vote Smacktard to be Jailed tomorrow.
 

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He can't answer right now. He would have outed the mobster already though if they had not done their day 3 tell. Mobsters have until the very end of day to make their tells. He can clarify if he would post it at the end of the day, or the start of the next day. My assumption would be it would have been included in in story for the start of the day. I know there wasn't a story today because he had an appointment this morning.
 

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Alright let's quit fucking around though.

There are 8 people:

Alu
canadaguy
shortkut
Tubby
Zell
Fools
Kelly
Jon

3 of which are basically 100% confirmed city folk:
Alu - Judge
canadaguy - Librarian
shortkut - Bailiff

1 is 100% awesome guy:
Zell 17

The remainder are ALL BAD:
Smacktard
Jon
Fool's Requiem
Tubby

The only way Jon can be a city member is if I'm evil. So, I vote Jon as Guilty.

Also, I vote Smacktard to be Jailed tomorrow.
Run the script then
 

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I vote Zell, but I don't know why he would vote Guilty for Jon. Reverse psychology is my guess. Maybe he's the Don and needs to buy himself some cover and make a shaky alliance with the bomber. I'd be happy to hear @canadaguy and @A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE 's thoughts on this.

The most likely explanation is simply that he hid his animal names somehow.
 
I vote Zell, but I don't know why he would vote Guilty for Jon. Reverse psychology is my guess. Maybe he's the Don and needs to buy himself some cover and make a shaky alliance with the bomber. I'd be happy to hear @canadaguy and @A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE 's thoughts on this.

The most likely explanation is simply that he hid his animal names somehow.
If I could hide my animal tell in a manner that would prevent someone from seeing it, so could anybody else, right?
 
Run the script then

Day 1:
PosterMentionsPost#
A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE
1​
203​
Benzine
1​
70​
Benzine
1​
71​
canadaguy
1​
233​
shortkut
1​
297​
Smacktard
1​
294​
TD
1​
315​
Tubby23
1​
72​
Tubby23
1​
75​
Tubby23
1​
202​
VashTheStampede
1​
287​
Zell 17
1​
42​
Zell 17
1​
131​

Day 2:
PosterMentionsPost#
A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE
1​
151​
A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE
2​
195​
canadaguy
12​
165​
canadaguy
2​
192​
Fool's Requiem
2​
190​
Jon
2​
205​
Tommy Boy
12​
160​
Tommy Boy
1​
203​
VashTheStampede
1​
137​
VashTheStampede
1​
150​
Zell 17
2​
65​
Zell 17
1​
75​
Zell 17
12​
162​

Day 3:
PosterMentionsPost#
A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE
1​
232​
Jon
1​
44​
Jon
1​
64​
Local Hero
2​
45​
Local Hero
1​
65​
Local Hero
1​
69​
Local Hero
1​
81​
Local Hero
9​
119​
Local Hero
3​
123​
Local Hero
2​
149​
Local Hero
1​
152​
Local Hero
1​
159​
Local Hero
1​
215​
Local Hero
2​
311​
Local Hero
1​
313​
Local Hero
1​
319​
Local Hero
1​
320​
Local Hero
1​
321​
Local Hero
1​
347​
shortkut
1​
62​
shortkut
1​
318​
shortkut
1​
356​
Smacktard
1​
355​
Tommy Boy
1​
68​
Tommy Boy
1​
70​
Tommy Boy
13​
343​
VashTheStampede
17​
2​
VashTheStampede
2​
151​
VashTheStampede
1​
230​
VashTheStampede
2​
312​
Zell 17
1​
78​
 
So you can see the script must be missing a few mentions. One, obviously nobody has popped twice each day and we know somebody must. I think my list of animals from wikipedia probably needs to be expanded. I also noticed that right now it's not considering plurals, i.e. canadaguy posted the word "D*cks" on day 1. D*ck is in the list, but it needs to be an exact match because I didn't want to false positive match things like "badgering"
 

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Day 1:
PosterMentionsPost#
A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE
1​
203​
Benzine
1​
70​
Benzine
1​
71​
canadaguy
1​
233​
shortkut
1​
297​
Smacktard
1​
294​
TD
1​
315​
Tubby23
1​
72​
Tubby23
1​
75​
Tubby23
1​
202​
VashTheStampede
1​
287​
Zell 17
1​
42​
Zell 17
1​
131​

Day 2:
PosterMentionsPost#
A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE
1​
151​
A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE
2​
195​
canadaguy
12​
165​
canadaguy
2​
192​
Fool's Requiem
2​
190​
Jon
2​
205​
Tommy Boy
12​
160​
Tommy Boy
1​
203​
VashTheStampede
1​
137​
VashTheStampede
1​
150​
Zell 17
2​
65​
Zell 17
1​
75​
Zell 17
12​
162​

Day 3:
PosterMentionsPost#
A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE
1​
232​
Jon
1​
44​
Jon
1​
64​
Local Hero
2​
45​
Local Hero
1​
65​
Local Hero
1​
69​
Local Hero
1​
81​
Local Hero
9​
119​
Local Hero
3​
123​
Local Hero
2​
149​
Local Hero
1​
152​
Local Hero
1​
159​
Local Hero
1​
215​
Local Hero
2​
311​
Local Hero
1​
313​
Local Hero
1​
319​
Local Hero
1​
320​
Local Hero
1​
321​
Local Hero
1​
347​
shortkut
1​
62​
shortkut
1​
318​
shortkut
1​
356​
Smacktard
1​
355​
Tommy Boy
1​
68​
Tommy Boy
1​
70​
Tommy Boy
13​
343​
VashTheStampede
17​
2​
VashTheStampede
2​
151​
VashTheStampede
1​
230​
VashTheStampede
2​
312​
Zell 17
1​
78​
Now I’m confused

Day 1 - animal tell could be benzine, tubby, or zell

Day 2 - only Zell repeats

Day 3 - Zell does not repeat… but at the same time, Zell is the one who created the script
 

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So you can see the script must be missing a few mentions. One, obviously nobody has popped twice each day and we know somebody must. I think my list of animals from wikipedia probably needs to be expanded. I also noticed that right now it's not considering plurals, i.e. canadaguy posted the word "D*cks" on day 1. D*ck is in the list, but it needs to be an exact match because I didn't want to false positive match things like "badgering"
@VashTheStampede would plural forms of animals count?
 
Now I’m confused

Day 1 - animal tell could be benzine, tubby, or zell

Day 2 - only Zell repeats

Day 3 - Zell does not repeat… but at the same time, Zell is the one who created the script

I posted the script here:


Anyone can go through it. It's pretty simple. But probably I need a more expansive list of animals. I basically googled "Lists of animals" and smashed them into one list of 446 animals.
 

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the script is fine, it's the reference list of animals that needs to amended. WHO WANTS TO POST A LIST OF ANIMALS TO CHECK?

I mean, I could just add an "s" to the end of every animal, but there are LOTS of animals where the plural isn't adding an s. I don't care enough about surviving in this game to manually curate a list of 1000s of animals. Copying and pasting one from wikipedia or whatever is one thing.

Also there will still be edge cases. Like would Vash count f*xy?
 

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Now I’m confused

Day 1 - animal tell could be benzine, tubby, or zell

Day 2 - only Zell repeats

Day 3 - Zell does not repeat… but at the same time, Zell is the one who created the script
Vash confirmed it wouldn't be Benzine because the info was revealed to Tommy after Benzine died, and so Benzine's t*ll would've been removed from the game.

edit: censored the word "t*ll"
 

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@VashTheStampede can the Librarian use their ability at any point in a day if a player goes over 30 posts or do they have to wait til evening to shush players for the next day?
They could trigger it at any point that the post count has been exceeded. The Shush is not in effect until the following day.
 

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Sorry guys wife was in a medical procedure till now so just catching up

Everything I have said so far has been 100 percent accurate

Forgive my stupid run on sentences because of this ridiculous tell

I have a clear an obvious tell of no punctuation and I was conned on night one before I even had a chance to post and it has sucked hardcore and I cannot use punctuation in ANY post so its not even numerically restricted :facepalm

I am the foreman and the only real evidence I have is on Fools jury I said when I cast the third not guilty vote he was exonerated because my vote counts as two and would break ties

Yes it is a weak defense but it is what it is

Everything I posted yesterday appears to be full and valid here in terms of suspicions including when I said I believed Tommy to be the Gypsy based on his ability to get the clue

Zell voting to convict me so immediate makes it DAMN clear he is mafia and I desperately want the Con Man dead so I can use punctuation again and that would also exonerate me as a citizen

Here are my suspicions again for reference

Mafia
  • The Don who is unknown but we know is in the game
  • The Consiglieri who was Benzine and is dead
  • The Button Man who is unknown but we know exists because he killed Jawneh
  • The Con Man who is unknown but I know exists because I was conned on night one and additionally I suspect is using not giving tells to others as a way to frame me and makes me think either Smacktard or Zell based on the amount of dirty strategy needed to pull that foresight off
Citizens
  • The Lawyer was Joseph Snapple and is dead
  • The Gumshoe was TD and is dead
  • The Judge who is suspected to be Alu though I do not know why as I don't see the proof of it
  • The Snitch was Local and is dead
  • The Clairvoyant was Dean and is dead
  • The Gypsy was Tommy and I was accurate when I suspected that and is now dead
  • The Foreman is me
  • The Angry Man was Jawneh and is dead
  • The Bailiff we know exists and I have no idea who it is but is suspected shortkut who I still think could be the bomber
  • The Librarian we know exists and I believe to be canadaguy
  • The Peeping Tom is unconfirmed but suspected to be Fool as he claimed the roll
I will answer all questions truthfully because I have nothing to hide at this point but I caught the shit end of the RNG stick with my jury because I suspect they are all mafia or the bomber and since Zell already convicted me I expect to die here

I also will say it makes 100 percent sense the bomber will not act to frame me here since it has been accused that I am the bomber and news flash I am new to this game so that would not go over well if I were the bomber

Finally some other quotes to address

OK, Jon, now I'm going to ask you a bunch of questions. And I want to have them answered immediately:

Whose your daddy, and what does he do?

His name is Roland and he is retired

He worked for Raytheon in a collation and photo department but his job was classified so I have honestly never known what he really did

I visited his darkroom once and it was really fucking cool

The only way Jon can be a city member is if I'm evil. So, I vote Jon as Guilty.

And this is more proof you are lol

They will be notified relatively quickly. Maybe not immediately.

I can confirm this happens fairly expeditiously as I was given a chance to correct a post with punctuation to avoid my demise and there is proof because Zell quoted the pre edited post in day two

I had a stray comma and was called out pretty quick If needed I can find the posts

Anyone else have questions

Insert question mark above
 

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TD claimed he got shushed, right? In the first day? Any reason he and Tubby would lie about thar? (this is not for Vash). I'm trying to figure out if we definitely have a librarian or if we've been just assuming there is one.
Ask @A Leftover Bowl of Alphabet Soup in the New ABODE if there is one. He's verified townie as judge, and he's only going to post once. It's not some mafia misdirection.


Or spam 31 posts and find out
 

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Sorry guys wife was in a medical procedure till now so just catching up

Everything I have said so far has been 100 percent accurate

Forgive my stupid run on sentences because of this ridiculous tell

I have a clear an obvious tell of no punctuation and I was conned on night one before I even had a chance to post and it has sucked hardcore and I cannot use punctuation in ANY post so its not even numerically restricted :facepalm

I am the foreman and the only real evidence I have is on Fools jury I said when I cast the third not guilty vote he was exonerated because my vote counts as two and would break ties

Yes it is a weak defense but it is what it is

Everything I posted yesterday appears to be full and valid here in terms of suspicions including when I said I believed Tommy to be the Gypsy based on his ability to get the clue

Zell voting to convict me so immediate makes it DAMN clear he is mafia and I desperately want the Con Man dead so I can use punctuation again and that would also exonerate me as a citizen

Here are my suspicions again for reference

Mafia
  • The Don who is unknown but we know is in the game
  • The Consiglieri who was Benzine and is dead
  • The Button Man who is unknown but we know exists because he killed Jawneh
  • The Con Man who is unknown but I know exists because I was conned on night one and additionally I suspect is using not giving tells to others as a way to frame me and makes me think either Smacktard or Zell based on the amount of dirty strategy needed to pull that foresight off
Citizens
  • The Lawyer was Joseph Snapple and is dead
  • The Gumshoe was TD and is dead
  • The Judge who is suspected to be Alu though I do not know why as I don't see the proof of it
  • The Snitch was Local and is dead
  • The Clairvoyant was Dean and is dead
  • The Gypsy was Tommy and I was accurate when I suspected that and is now dead
  • The Foreman is me
  • The Angry Man was Jawneh and is dead
  • The Bailiff we know exists and I have no idea who it is but is suspected shortkut who I still think could be the bomber
  • The Librarian we know exists and I believe to be canadaguy
  • The Peeping Tom is unconfirmed but suspected to be Fool as he claimed the roll
I will answer all questions truthfully because I have nothing to hide at this point but I caught the shit end of the RNG stick with my jury because I suspect they are all mafia or the bomber and since Zell already convicted me I expect to die here

I also will say it makes 100 percent sense the bomber will not act to frame me here since it has been accused that I am the bomber and news flash I am new to this game so that would not go over well if I were the bomber

Finally some other quotes to address



His name is Roland and he is retired

He worked for Raytheon in a collation and photo department but his job was classified so I have honestly never known what he really did

I visited his darkroom once and it was really fucking cool



And this is more proof you are lol



I can confirm this happens fairly expeditiously as I was given a chance to correct a post with punctuation to avoid my demise and there is proof because Zell quoted the pre edited post in day two

I had a stray comma and was called out pretty quick If needed I can find the posts

Anyone else have questions

Insert question mark above
This is such a long post... I think he's hiding a t*ll somewhere in there, guys.
 
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