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I like Joe, I think he's done a good job as president (at least as good given the landscape), I liked him as VP, I think he's about as good as a person can be in politics, though I only really know him since his VP days.
I will miss him, something about him always caught my attention. I think he would have been fine due to policies, but I understand the need for optics
So...Kamala?
I have heard some of that, but people can and do change (and sometimes for the better). Should not hold it against people for changing their views or mind as the times change or given new informationI mean, that gives credit to his team and the optics they present. Beyond his VP days… you probably wouldn’t feel that way if you familiarized yourself with his previous work. Totally contradicts everything people know him for during his time as VP and beyond.
So...Kamala?
I have heard some of that, but people can and do change (and sometimes for the better). Should not hold it against people for changing their views or mind as the times change or given new information
there is a 0% chance the dems even entertain the idea of replacing biden
they would rather lose with biden than showcase how dysfunctional they are to the entire world by outing their own fucking president lol
Not surprising. There is still the question of the war chest. I think this is THE best path forward now. Not the only path, but they needed to figure out how to handle that.He has endorsed Harris.
He has endorsed Harris.
One thing I can say about her is she would DESTROY Trump in a debateI am 50/50 it is bad optics to boot her out and she would eat Trumps lunch in a debate, but there is a lot of baggage there (which I dont think is all earned), if the Dems had any plans they should have had her every where since 2020 just in case this was needed (or other good candidates)
One thing I can say about her is she would DESTROY Trump in a debate
Had Beau not died when he did, we probably would have had President Biden in 2016 and potentially re-elected in 2020 (Trump likely would not have run again if he didn't win the first time).let's take a second to acknowledge this man
Some of me wishes he had won out versus Hillary, perhaps history would have been different
He loves his country very much, he gave through the very end. He did a great job. (My investment account thanks him too).
Thinking it'll either be Harris/Cooper or Harris/Shapiro.
This was the best possible move for the Dems. It might not work, but now there's a non-zero chance.
When was the last time a candidate that was already in Presidential office chose to drop out?
Based on googling and reading a single article, seems like Harry Truman and Lyndon B. JohnsonWhen was the last time a candidate that was already in Presidential office chose to drop out?
Good for both, actually. Shapiro would help with PA a bunch and Cooper carried NC well statewide.What are the general feelings on her potential running mates? I’m not familiar with either.
Both of those make sense. Truman already basically had two full terms. Looks like Johnson dropped out due to a combination of health issues and a drastic loss of popularity due to the Vietnam War and a shifting political climate.Based on googling and reading a single article, seems like Harry Truman and Lyndon B. Johnson
Good for both, actually. Shapiro would help with PA a bunch and Cooper carried NC well statewide.
This makes me wonder what their angle should be… Personally, I think they need to come out swinging and give off the impression of a reinvigorated party in order to have any hope at shifting the dynamic of this election. Show some damn unison, and not that they’ve been huddling up trying to get Grandpa Joe to take his meds and go to bed before Johnny Carson comes on. If they can give the people the impression that they’re coming out of this stronger, there might be hope for them.
Im hoping Kelly from Arizona. Hopefully gets a swing state plus he's an astronaut and navy vet.Oh yeah and who exactly is going to be the VP
That would be risky from a Senate perspective though. PA is more important electorally as well.Im hoping Kelly from Arizona. Hopefully gets a swing state plus he's an astronaut and navy vet.
That would be risky from a Senate perspective though. PA is more important electorally as well.
Although if Kelly gets it maybe they can just put his brother in the Senate
tbh the one thing I remember best about harris is that she sucked ass on the debate stage, which is weird as hell considering her legal background. maybe she could run circles around trump, but no one has really seemed to have figured out how to counter his gish gallop of lies, off-topic tangents, and whataboutism -- somehow.One thing I can say about her is she would DESTROY Trump in a debate
She sucked in the primary debates but did great against Mike Pence. Besides all she has to do literally is fact check her opponent. She's also good about optics, which is what's most important apparently these days.goddamn i love being right
tbh the one thing I remember best about harris is that she sucked ass on the debate stage, which is weird as hell considering her legal background. maybe she could run circles around trump, but no one has really seemed to have figured out how to counter his gish gallop of lies, off-topic tangents, and whataboutism -- somehow.
Fair. I don't remember her against Pence. I only remember her from the primaries, and she was probably pulling punches so that's maybe not the best example to base my belief on.She sucked in the primary debates but did great against Mike Pence. Besides all she has to do literally is fact check her opponent. She's also good about optics, which is what's most important apparently these days.
I get the importance of that, but there is so many more fucking things that affect life and death and quality of life. It is also a very tense situation. There is probably a lot more to it than we know.oh boy, my mom Facebook group that is progressive is already turning on each other
Seems a lot of it hinges on genocide/what is happening in Palestine,
feel free to tell them that lol