Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 3

[shortkut]

Er...wait. I think I wrote that wrong. Wasn't his spreadsheet preacher?

I didn’t know we had a priest and a preacher. I just hope there are no alter boy roles

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Heck you Alu. I confirmed that there's a nightmare wolf.

Wolves know what wolves there are as well.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I didn’t know we had a priest and a preacher. I just hope there are no alter boy roles

Do we have a claimed Priest? Or are you just talking about the kinds of available roles in general?

 

[finlandguy]

I don't think anyone said anything about this yet. If Jon didn't protect anyone so far, there's either another protection out there or the wolves decided not to murder a mofo. Or also went after Jumpy last night alongside Vash. Then the night before, another protection or Raine had Jumpy in jail, thus there was no corruptor kill.

 

[shortkut]

Do we have a claimed Priest? Or are you just talking about the kinds of available roles in general?

The latter

 

[Jon]

I don't think anyone said anything about this yet. If Jon didn't protect anyone so far, there's either another protection out there or the wolves decided not to murder a mofo. Or also went after Jumpy last night alongside Vash. Then the night before, another protection or Raine had Jumpy in jail, thus there was no corruptor kill.

Wolves tried to kill Alu last night. Vash blocked with witch potion.

 

[shortkut]

I don't think anyone said anything about this yet. If Jon didn't protect anyone so far, there's either another protection out there or the wolves decided not to murder a mofo. Or also went after Jumpy last night alongside Vash. Then the night before, another protection or Raine had Jumpy in jail, thus there was no corruptor kill.

Cash protected Alu with his last potion

 

[finlandguy]

Wolves know what wolves there are as well.

And wolves wouldn't voluntarily give out information. We have no idea about any of the wolves otherwise other than maybe one or two that can be blue if TD is to be believed with being spirit seer.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Cash protected Alu with his last potion

 

[finlandguy]

Wolves tried to kill Alu last night. Vash blocked with witch potion.

Cash protected Alu with his last potion

Oh. I missed the protection one. Thought it was just the kill. Welp me.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

 

[shortkut]

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Vash was a double witch last night.

 

[TD]

Heck you Alu. I confirmed that there's a nightmare wolf.

Wolves know what wolves there are as well.

Didn't Raine imply yesterday she was blocked or did I imagine that?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Didn't Raine imply yesterday she was blocked or did I imagine that?

She made statements that came across as confirming a jailer because she "had something done to her"

Whether or not that means she was just trying to confirm the jailer or to confirm both that and a wolf role is up to us to find out later.

 

[TD]

She made statements that came across as confirming a jailer because she "had something done to her"

Whether or not that means she was just trying to confirm the jailer or to confirm both that and a wolf role is up to us to find out later.

Got it. Thanks for clarifying.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Nightmare wolf also only has two uses. So if Raine got it one night and Jawneh the next, it would mean using up that power on two unconfirmed powers.

If someone, say, read into Jawneh potentially hinting at a kill role, that would make sense.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Or, if Jawneh wanted to claim a kill role and then wanted an excuse for not using it, then he could claim having been nightmared.

IT WORKS MANY WAYS.


But yeah if there's a Nightmare wolf and both Raine and Jawneh were already targeted by it, then one wolf power is gone (unless they have more than one).

 

[Benzine]

A few things on me being suspicious.

Why would I work towards an action that reveals a wolf? Wouldn't the wolves be much better off keeping Raposuh's allegiance hidden?

If the answer to that is to move suspicion from myself, then you are making a bad judgement. There's always fucken tonnes of it on me, I cannot remove suspicion. I can only contribute the information I have.

I am the first person to say Vash is good.

Moving on slightly...

My role isn't as easy to fake as you think, Alu. Anyone who's looked at any of the people I've looked at can unwrap what I have to say.

@TD who did you look up on night 1 and who did you look up on the most recent night? Sorry if I've missed it.

 

[TD]

And y'all think I speak in riddles.

points at Raine

 

[TD]

@TD who did you look up on night 1 and who did you look up on the most recent night? Sorry if I've missed it.

Dean and Jawneh, but with no wolf kill I didn't accomplish much.

 

[Jon]

And y'all think I speak in riddles.

points at Raine

To be fair, this is the longest either of you have been alive in any game I've played.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

A few things on me being suspicious.

Why would I work towards an action that reveals a wolf? Wouldn't the wolves be much better off keeping Raposuh's allegiance hidden?

If the answer to that is to move suspicion from myself, then you are making a bad judgement. There's always fucken tonnes of it on me, I cannot remove suspicion. I can only contribute the information I have.

I am the first person to say Vash is good.

Moving on slightly...

My role isn't as easy to fake as you think, Alu. Anyone who's looked at any of the people I've looked at can unwrap what I have to say.

@TD who did you look up on night 1 and who did you look up on the most recent night? Sorry if I've missed it.

I simply listed out the people who haven't been confirmed as townies and are still alive. Not saying you're the most suspicious.

If I were to choose ONE of the seer role claims to be a fake one, at this point I'd probably go with the Bell Ringer one.

 

[TD]

To be fair, this is the longest either of you have been alive in any game I've played.

Haven't you only ever played with me once and then your wolf pack brutally murdered us?

 

[Benzine]

Dean and Jawneh, but with no wolf kill I didn't accomplish much.

Of course, I understand.

But why didn't you look at me?

 

[Benzine]

If I am a seer type, trying to run the show, and you legitimately are a seer - you 100% look at me.

 

[VashTheStampede]

And y'all think I speak in riddles.

points at Raine

You literally spoke in a riddle

 

[Jon]

Haven't you only ever played with me once and then your wolf pack brutally murdered us?

Twice if you count mafia. And I think this is the 3rd time with Raine. My point is still valid.

 

[TD]

Of course, I understand.

But why didn't you look at me?

As I said yesterday, you're not that high on my sus list yet.

Should you be?

 

[TD]

If I am a seer type, trying to run the show, and you legitimately are a seer - you 100% look at me.

Why?

After we had our chat yesterday, I felt better about you.

Should I not?

 

[Benzine]

I don't believe that a seer wouldn't look at another seer type after seer 2 votes for someone that seer 1 believed was good, and then was good - plus all the rest.

Plus it's easy to find you suspicious with all the spam and nonsense. I am trying my best not to let that impact my choices.

 

[shortkut]

SEER FIGHT!

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Lets say I choose to believe Benzine. Based on Jon's latest spreadsheet, I would probably switch him with Local.

If I were to also believe Jawneh...Jon, TD, or Tommy would move down.


I guess what I'm saying is right now my top thought for liar liar pants on fire is Local.

 

[Benzine]

Can you explain the lie to me? I don't call them bell ringer claims, they're bell ringer facts.

 

[shortkut]

Can you explain the lie to me? I don't call them bell ringer claims, they're bell ringer facts.

Lying about their role unless Zell did not make 4 wolves in this game

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Can you explain the lie to me? I don't call them bell ringer claims, they're bell ringer facts.

It's possible he did literally the exact same thing you did when you first claimed Bell Ringer, down to outing the Solo Voter of all things.

 

[Benzine]

wow what a fool

 

[shortkut]

 

[TD]

I don't believe that a seer wouldn't look at another seer type after seer 2 votes for someone that seer 1 believed was good, and then was good - plus all the rest.

Plus it's easy to find you suspicious with all the spam and nonsense. I am trying my best not to let that impact my choices.

Isn't it possible that I just don't play the same as you and I do things my own way?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Of course it is possible to have selected both Kat and kut on the second night. I just also think it's really possible to have a wolf seer check kut and then have someone fake bell ring the role into the open.

 

[Benzine]

I have cricket and what not a lot throughout the day, and I'm often a bit wrecked after it (I don't do great standing in the sun for so long), so I want to get a vote in early. Are we really voting for Kelly on the basis that 50/50 is good enough slash it's like voting for a wolf if we pretend Kit and Kelly are the same? Haha.

Isn't it possible that I just don't play the same as you and I do things my own way?

Can you expand on what you mean by that?

 

[TD]

Can you expand on what you mean by that?

I'm well aware that you don't believe in vibes/cold reads/feels.

However, I do and I make my decisions based off of that.

Confirming a seer who confirmed what I already know is not of concern to me.

The town is in good shape right now, if Kelly turns out to be a townie then yes you are absolutely getting looked at.

 

[Local Hero]

I have cricket and what not a lot throughout the day, and I'm often a bit wrecked after it (I don't do great standing in the sun for so long), so I want to get a vote in early. Are we really voting for Kelly on the basis that 50/50 is good enough slash it's like voting for a wolf if we pretend Kit and Kelly are the same? Haha.



Can you expand on what you mean by that?

Don't get a cricket related concussion please

 

[shortkut]

The town is in good shape right now, if Kelly turns out to be a townie then yes you are absolutely getting looked at.

Only a wolf would think that. We lost all of our strong roles plus 2 protectors and may not have killed any wolves

 

[Local Hero]

Only a wolf would think that. We lost all of our strong roles plus 2 protectors and may not have killed any wolves

Plus the two Cupid targets.

 

[TD]

Only a wolf would think that. We lost all of our strong roles plus 2 protectors and may not have killed any wolves

I mean from a numbers perspective.
Right now we're either 7-4 or 8-3.

If Kelly is a wolf, we are 7-3.

 

[shortkut]

Plus the two Cupid targets.

If they are both townies that makes the town’s position more precarious. If they are both wolves, it is their only hope to have a major swing

 

[shortkut]

I mean from a numbers perspective.
Right now we're either 7-4 or 8-3.

If Kelly is a wolf, we are 7-3.

Still have to know who to kill

 

[Benzine]

I'm well aware that you don't believe in vibes/cold reads/feels.

However, I do and I make my decisions based off of that.

Confirming a seer who confirmed what I already know is not of concern to me.

The town is in good shape right now, if Kelly turns out to be a townie then yes you are absolutely getting looked at.

It is fine to have to make reads but bad to lead with them, buts that’s ok

But it makes no sense on whatever Kelly results as to search me and not have done it already. I don’t know what Raposuh is so how would I know what Kelly is.

Yes I can appreciate that a liar would do that, but it’s also true that the violinist would see it that way (if Raposuh is a wolf, Kelly is not mourning but is a villager). And a violinist wouldn’t know that Kelly is bad to offer up. It doesn’t make sense to react to Kelly being a villager by looking at me.

It doesn’t make sense that it would even change a read.

 

[Jon]

@Zell 17

If the cupid couple are both townies and and the town eliminates all the wolves, is the game still going because their goal is to win together?

I ask because with Raposuh an unknown, there could be a scenario where if the game does not end, we may be in an endless loop of town lynching itself because of cupid couple.