Zell Wolf GWF Zell Wolf - Version IX - Day 3

[A Maybe Baker]

1. You have to believe Benzine is the Violinist for that.
2. I do not know where you're saying they are down to one regardless as outside of Raposuh there no other even possible wolf killed.

If Benzine is the violinist then Raposa and Kelly are on opposite teams.

If Raposa was a wolf, they're down one and killing Kelly would keep it that way.
If Raposa was a townie, killing Kelly would kill a wolf

 

[TD]

But raposuh is already dead…

TD Local or Benzine are lying because we were expecting Kelly and raposuh to be on the same team

Yes but we don't know what team Raposuh is on.

 

[shortkut]

Yes but we don't know what team Raposuh is on.

Yes but one of you are 100% lying

 

[Jon]

Do you have a better lead?

Nope. But I also wouldn't have used Kelly who has been all but silent as the check.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I also realize Jon misread TD as saying "down to one wolf" as opposed to "down one wolf"

 

[shortkut]

Nope. But I also wouldn't have used Kelly who has been all but silent as the check.

Correct. Should have used a known townie to check against raposuh so we know if Raposuh is wolf or not

 

[Jon]

But raposuh is already dead…

TD Local or Benzine are lying because we were expecting Kelly and raposuh to be on the same team

We cannot forget Tommy either. He could potentially be lying too and has gone silent

 

[TD]

Yes but one of you are 100% lying

How do you figure?

 

[Jon]

I also realize Jon misread TD as saying "down to one wolf" as opposed to "down one wolf"

You are right. I read it as down TO one wolf. My apologies.

 

[shortkut]

How do you figure?

Jon’s spreadsheet had raposuh and Kelly on the same team and slotted you 3 as townies. If one of them is not a wolf, then someone not currently on the wolf list needs to be there. It’s possible more than one of you are liars

 

[TD]

Jon’s spreadsheet had raposuh and Kelly on the same team and slotted you 3 as townies. If one of them is not a wolf, then someone not currently on the wolf list needs to be there. It’s possible more than one of you are liars

Okay I need you to clarify who you were calling a liar. lol

 

[shortkut]

Okay I need you to clarify who you were calling a liar. lol

The one whose pants are on fire

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Jon’s spreadsheet had raposuh and Kelly on the same team and slotted you 3 as townies. If one of them is not a wolf, then someone not currently on the wolf list needs to be there. It’s possible more than one of you are liars

Again, there is no need for me to be hiding anything anymore as with the corruptor dead and a couple more villagers confirmed, I'm pretty much the strongest role left since Vash's potions are burned.

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If Benzine is telling the truth, then slide either Kelly or Raposa into the top bucket, one of Jon, TD, Local, and Tommy needs to slide down.

If Dean is also a townie avenger, then two of them need to slide down. Everyone else is confirmed.

 

[Jon]

Jon’s spreadsheet had raposuh and Kelly on the same team and slotted you 3 as townies. If one of them is not a wolf, then someone not currently on the wolf list needs to be there. It’s possible more than one of you are liars

I also have no way of confirming it.

Ostensibly, 3-4 of TD, Tommy, Raposuh, Jawneh, Kelly, Benzine and Dean are wolves.

TD and Tommy had early claims which is why I have them as "medium" certainty townies. Benzine had a flip flop role claim but one I find possibly viable. Dean had a self preservation role claim.

Jawneh claims to have role claimed but claims its non violent and he needs to bide his time. Kelly has nothing at all.

 

[shortkut]

I’m confirmed

 

[Jon]

If Benzine is telling the truth, then slide either Kelly or Raposa into the top bucket, one of Jon, TD, Local, and Tommy needs to slide down.

I've temporarily moved Raposuh up to townie. Because Kelly has given us nothing at all. And I can't rightfully give him a pass.

 

[shortkut]

Can the medium just tell us already?

 

[Jon]

If Tommy and TD are who they say they are the wolves are Jawneh, Kelly, Benzine and Dean.

I don't believe them all to be wolves though which indicates to me that either TD or Tommy (or both) are lying.

 

[Jon]

Can the medium just tell us already?

If there was one, sure lol

 

[TD]

Ostensibly, 3-4 of TD, Tommy, Raposuh, Jawneh, Kelly, Benzine and Dean are wolves.

I know where you're coming from but objectively speaking you should be on the list too, even if you are who you say.

I could make this exact same list and swap me for you.

 

[Jon]

Current updated (in no means final):

Blue means confirmed. Yellow are claimed but not confirmed. Grey means alleged. I lean Local lower on the sus list because his bell ringer claim accurately called out Kut's role before he confirmed it, so I'm giving benefit of the doubt.

 

[TD]

I'm also just going to take this time to remind everyone that a townie/wolf cupid combo is a very real possibility.

Especially if we are now assuming there's 4 wolves left.

You poor fucking souls.

 

[Jon]

I know where you're coming from but objectively speaking you should be on the list too, even if you are who you say.

I could make this exact same list and swap me for you.

Of course, but it's my list and I know what I am. On your list I'd be there. I get it. Everyone does their own assessment.

 

[Local Hero]

I haven't read this last page. But just a question.

If Kelly and Raposuh are both wolves, but Kelly was coupled by Cupid, would they be in the same team?

 

[Benzine]

I haven't read this last page. But just a question.

If Kelly and Raposuh are both wolves, but Kelly was coupled by Cupid, would they be in the same team?

No, coupling does nothing, I asked.

 

[Jon]

I haven't read this last page. But just a question.

If Kelly and Raposuh are both wolves, but Kelly was coupled by Cupid, would they be in the same team?

Based on the definition of Cupid, I don't think so.

 

[TD]

I took this as soon as Benzine posted because I think it's notable for vote pattern analysis.

 

[Local Hero]

Haha, Zell is still voting for shortkut

 

[Jon]

I will note I have not voted at all, even for no vote.

 

[shortkut]

If the wolves tell me who they are, I will let everyone else know if there is a couple amongst them. No lying

 

[VashTheStampede]

If there was one, sure lol

It was Raposuh lol

 

[shortkut]

Probably

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Just to be clear there's no medium or ritualist lol.

3x Strong townies are bully, bully, jailer

 

[VashTheStampede]

Just to be clear there's no medium or ritualist lol.

3x Strong townies are bully, bully, jailer

 

[Jon]

It was Raposuh lol

Lol, the 3 strong townies are known, he wasn't even if he was town

 

[VashTheStampede]

Lol, the 3 strong townies are known, he wasn't even if he was town

Local is claiming bell ringer

 

[Jon]

Local is claiming bell ringer

I didn't see that. Prove it.

 

[shortkut]

I didn't see that. Prove it.

I’m the mad bomber!

 

[VashTheStampede]

I didn't see that. Prove it.

 

[Jon]

 

[finlandguy]

Current updated (in no means final):
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Blue means confirmed. Yellow are claimed but not confirmed. Grey means alleged. I lean Local lower on the sus list because his bell ringer claim accurately called out Kut's role before he confirmed it, so I'm giving benefit of the doubt.

Jon's list has me dead already. Just wow...

I might be on my way to aliven't, but you don't got to advertise it until after the fact. D:

 

[shortkut]

Jon's list has me dead already. Just wow...

I might be on my way to aliven't, but you don't got to advertise it until after the fact. D:

He could just be advertising the next wolf kill

 

[Jon]

Jon's list has me dead already. Just wow...

I might be on my way to aliven't, but you don't got to advertise it until after the fact. D:

Whoops, sorry, didn't update that when I swapped Raposuh

 

[finlandguy]

why jon why

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Potential liars:

• Jon
  • Claims Doctor
  • No Saves
  • Making charts
• Tommy
  • Claims Priest
  • No additional voting power to date
  • Making charts
• TD
  • Claims Spirit Seer
  • "Confirmed" Vash & Kut
  • Potentially "Confirmed" Kelly and Local
• Kelly
  • No claim?
  • Not much of anything
• Local
  • Claims Bell Ringer
  • Revealed shortkut
• Benzine
  • Claims violinist
  • "Confirmed" Vash
  • States Raposa and Kelly are opposite teams
• Dean
  • Claims Avenger
  • No way to confirm anything without him dying
• Jawneh
  • Claims a role of some sort
  • Hasn't confirmed anything

3-4 wolves are in that group. Two of the people TD has "confirmed" are potential liars, and the other two are actually not wolves.

Easy to fake roles are:

• Protectors with no confirmed protection
• Seers of any kind (in this case: Spirit, Bell Ringer, and Violinist)
• Priest prior to voting power increase
• Avenger
• No distinct role claim

I could have made the second list shorter by saying "all of these are easy to make fake claims on"

 

[finlandguy]

Heck you Alu. I confirmed that there's a nightmare wolf.

 

[shortkut]

Potential liars:

• Jon
  • Claims Doctor
  • No Saves
  • Making charts
• Tommy
  • Claims Priest
  • No additional voting power to date
  • Making charts
• TD
  • Claims Spirit Seer
  • "Confirmed" Vash & Kut
  • Potentially "Confirmed" Kelly and Local
• Kelly
  • No claim?
  • Not much of anything
• Local
  • Claims Bell Ringer
  • Revealed shortkut
• Benzine
  • Claims violinist
  • "Confirmed" Vash
  • States Raposa and Kelly are opposite teams
• Dean
  • Claims Avenger
  • No way to confirm anything without him dying
• Jawneh
  • Claims a role of some sort
  • Hasn't confirmed anything

3-4 wolves are in that group. Two of the people TD has "confirmed" are potential liars, and the other two are actually not wolves.

Easy to fake roles are:

• Protectors with no confirmed protection
• Seers of any kind (in this case: Spirit, Bell Ringer, and Violinist)
• Priest prior to voting power increase
• Avenger
• No distinct role claim

I could have made the second list shorter by saying "all of these are easy to make fake claims on"

Tommy can clear himself of suspicion by splashing someone else on the suspect list

 

[Jon]

Tommy

• Claims Priest
• No additional voting power to date
• Making charts

He claims preacher, not priest.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Tommy can clear himself of suspicion by splashing someone else on the suspect list

Er...wait. I think I wrote that wrong. Wasn't his spreadsheet preacher?

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I was going from memory there, my mistake for mixing up the similar sounding roles. Otherwise that's what I've come up with so far in terms of the SOTU.