Zell Wolf GWF Zell Version XI Wolf Day 2

[shortkut]

One wolf down already, ain't no way it makes sense to leave the Solo around.

Sus

 

[TD]

Sus

Okay #8.

 

[GwJumpman]

One wolf down already, ain't no way it makes sense to leave the Solo around.

You have one more person around voting with the town who can't be night killed by wolves and won't kill the town. I'll even sign a contract. Tell me where to sign.

 

[Dean]

Sus

sus

If you don't vote for Jumpy, then you eat corn the long way

 

[shortkut]

The SK offers to help kill wolves and 3 people immediately start calling for him to be lynched. There are 3 wolves left, so if that isn’t sus, I don’t know what is

 

[Smacktard]

We should maybe avoid that kind of stuff possibly

Sort of agreed... But no really? I mean we have no other way of checking if someone has been muted other than inference. Also I don't think we should forbid others' reactions in unrelated threads. It seemed clear enough that Tubby was "muted", even without him reacting to a Tommy post in another thread

 

[VashTheStampede]

we (using the term loosely) have literally resurrected a SK and still didnt lose

 

[Smacktard]

Okay #8.

Hot take: 8 is two times 4.

 

[Tommy Boy]

The SK offers to help kill wolves and 3 people immediately start calling for him to be lynched. There are 3 wolves left, so if that isn’t sus, I don’t know what is

The issue is we'll lose Tubby tonight if we don't kill Jump. We would have to decide if Tubby's life is worth having a guaranteed killer on our team who could turn at moment's notice.

 

[TD]

The SK offers to help kill wolves and 3 people immediately start calling for him to be lynched. There are 3 wolves left, so if that isn’t sus, I don’t know what is

Immediately start calling for him to be lynched?

I know attention to detail isn't your strong suit but he already had 8 votes.

 

[GwJumpman]

I will reiterate what I said earlier just in case: I promise to not use my powers at all unless we democratically determine to do so during the day, will go down with the ship, and am immune from wolf night kills. I am not capable of just killing people out of the blue and will go as far as it takes to promise that I won't use the power (we can use Zell as a notary or something).

You can vote for me and kill me still, but you can also recruit me.

 

[Raine]

Dude I have no idea how I got Corruptor twice. I've only been in like 4 games, I've only been townie once

I think this is my 8th Zell game, and it's the first time I've ever not been a Strong Villager or a wolf.

Y'all wanna know why I fucking hate the Blind Wolf so much? That's why.


As for this... turn of events. I reiterate my previous point about not having a claim being entirely on point, for starters.

Secondly, as the resident Revives Solos for Kicks. Hm. HMM. See I'm not extraordinarily a fan of killing the SK too soon, because it blocks the wolves from winning. But also, lynching you is ostensibly the only viable move for tonight.

But also, anyone that votes for you today should immediately be considered a wolf.

And now my brain hurts.

I'm gonna... I'm gonna do the thing. I'll probably end up offing myself anyone so it's no fucking sweat off my brow.

Voting Kat so you can all forget later anyway

 

[VashTheStampede]

Sort of agreed... But no really? I mean we have no other way of checking if someone has been muted other than inference. Also I don't think we should forbid others' reactions in unrelated threads. It seemed clear enough that Tubby was "muted", even without him reacting to a Tommy post in another thread

I get what you're saying. But also the whole game is built around what information is and isn't publicly available.

Its a tough thing.

But I do totally agree that we shouldn't necessarily stop threadbanned players from participating in other parts of the site.

 

[Dean]

Jump will play to his win condition. He's not going to side with the town.

That being said, I can see why the wolves want him dead, so I'll go along with whatever the town wants.

Tubby's blood won't be on my hands, though.

 

[Zell 17]

Obviously it is fine for any muted player to post anywhere else on the site as long as it's not about the game. Determining whether someone is muted or not isn't meant to be rocket science, and since so many people have GM or mod powers faking it is essentially the same as actually being muted

 

[GwJumpman]

Jump will play to his win condition. He's not going to side with the town.

That being said, I can see why the wolves want him dead, so I'll go along with whatever the town wants.

Tubby's blood won't be on my hands, though.

I am telling you now I will side with the town and will not play to my condition. I am conceding and offering myself to the town.

 

[Dean]

I am telling you now I will side with the town and will not play to my condition. I am conceding and offering myself to the town.

I get it. I just can't trust it.

 

[shortkut]

Immediately start calling for him to be lynched?

I know attention to detail isn't your strong suit but he already had 8 votes.

Yes but now that you know his role, you 3 are insisting we continue with this lynch

 

[Smacktard]

Jumpman's gambit is so fucking metal that he's kind of endeared himself to me.

I'm willing to vote someone else, as long as the rest of the town goes along with my vote. But I know that's a longshot.

 

[TD]

Yes but now that you know his role, you 3 are insisting we continue with this lynch

Are you Cupid'd with him or something?

 

[Smacktard]

I get it. I just can't trust it.

If he doesn't live up to it, we could just lynch him the next day.

 

[shortkut]

Jump will play to his win condition. He's not going to side with the town.

That being said, I can see why the wolves want him dead, so I'll go along with whatever the town wants.

Tubby's blood won't be on my hands, though.

Even if he does, we still have time to lynch him later

 

[VashTheStampede]

So this is where MY PTSD kicks in.

I am all for doing the wild and awesome play. Fortune and glory and all. Better to have a memorable game than a safe win.

But I think back to when I resurrected Tommy to be the Avatar of Love and he ended up going back on his word and playing to his win condition.

As much as I WANT to believe and let Jumpman live, so far I'm the only person I trust enough to actually go through with that sort of tomfoolery.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

If he doesn't live up to it, we could just lynch him the next day.

I do not trust people.

 

[GwJumpman]

So this is where MY PTSD kicks in.

I am all for doing the wild and awesome play. Fortune and glory and all. Better to have a memorable game than a safe win.

But I think back to when I resurrected Tommy to be the Avatar of Love and he ended up going back on his word and playing to his win condition.

As much as I WANT to believe and let Jumpman live, so far I'm the only person I trust enough to actually go through with that sort of tomfoolery.

Let me prove you wrong, dad

 

[Zell 17]

So this is where MY PTSD kicks in.

I am all for doing the wild and awesome play. Fortune and glory and all. Better to have a memorable game than a safe win.

But I think back to when I resurrected Tommy to be the Avatar of Love and he ended up going back on his word and playing to his win condition.

As much as I WANT to believe and let Jumpman live, so far I'm the only person I trust enough to actually go through with that sort of tomfoolery.

Listen Tommy really DID love....winning that game.

 

[Dean]

If he doesn't live up to it, we could just lynch him the next day.

Even if he does, we still have time to lynch him later

So, we lose one townie (Tubby) today. There's three wolves left, right? We'll be down to eight townies, three wolves... But with Cupid, if both coupled players are townies, then it's kind of like having five townies (worst case).

Like I said, I'll do whatever. We've got 40 minutes to decide.

 

[shortkut]

So this is where MY PTSD kicks in.

I am all for doing the wild and awesome play. Fortune and glory and all. Better to have a memorable game than a safe win.

But I think back to when I resurrected Tommy to be the Avatar of Love and he ended up going back on his word and playing to his win condition.

As much as I WANT to believe and let Jumpman live, so far I'm the only person I trust enough to actually go through with that sort of tomfoolery.

He thought he could not reach his win condition, then I tutored him and everyone else in basic math
#sorrynotsorry #betrayal

 

[VashTheStampede]

So, we lose one townie (Tubby) today. There's three wolves left, right? We'll be down to eight townies, three wolves... But with Cupid, if both are townies, then it's kind of like having five townies (worst case).

Like I said, I'll do whatever. We've got 40 minutes to decide.

We know Tubby is a townie?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

So, we lose one townie (Tubby) today. There's three wolves left, right? We'll be down to eight townies, three wolves... But with Cupid, if both are townies, then it's kind of like having five townies (worst case).

Like I said, I'll do whatever. We've got 40 minutes to decide.

hang on... how do we know Tubby is a townie?

 

[Dean]

We know Tubby is a townie?

I guess we don't lol

 

[Fool's Requiem]

dammit Vash, get out of my head

 

[shortkut]

hang on... how do we know Tubby is a townie?

We don’t, they’re assuming he is and using that as a reason to lynch the SK

 

[Dean]

I'm thinking worst case, but yeah, Tubby might be a wolf...

 

[VashTheStampede]

He thought he could not reach his win condition, then I tutored him and everyone else in basic math
#sorrynotsorry #betrayal

I once again congratulate you on your loss and my win.

 

[Smacktard]

I do not trust people.

So he kills a single townie, but he's kept alive and the wolves still need him lynched. Seems like a net neutral for the town, and I respect the ballsyness of the move. It's possible he honors his pledge and doesn't kill Tubby too, which makes it slightly more pro-town

 

[shortkut]

I once again congratulate you on your loss and my win.

I’m still happy with the outcome

 

[GwJumpman]

 

[Smacktard]

I vote Raine.

 

[Dean]

So he kills a single townie, but he's kept alive and the wolves still need him lynched. Seems like a net neutral for the town, and I respect the ballsyness of the move. It's possible he honors his pledge and doesn't kill Tubby too, which makes it slightly more pro-town

Does the Corruptor get the choice of going through with the kill or is it automatic?

 

[shortkut]

@VashTheStampede and for the record, you betrayed me, not @Christina because I thought you’d help her win to help me win

 

[Tommy Boy]

But I think back to when I resurrected Tommy to be the Avatar of Love and he ended up going back on his word and playing to his win condition.

As much as I WANT to believe and let Jumpman live, so far I'm the only person I trust enough to actually go through with that sort of tomfoolery.

One difference: Jumpman is on a solo team and only has his own conscience to deal with. I was on the village team first, and despite my deal for resurrection, I'd be fucking over 13 people to make that couples win happen. I knew it could have been legendary, but I also knew I would have a pretty rough stain on my resume if I ditched my team in the end for the lolz.

In the end, I did what I thought would be best for my longevity going forward throughout all games, rather than in the moment. I did actually feel bad about it for a while afterwards, though. I know it's just a game, but I actually felt like I conned y'all beyond the game, and despite needing to do so to satisfy my team's winning condition, I was ultimately left feeling pretty shitty about lying to you guys.

I know it's water under the bridge, but as we can both see, it has impacted both of our playstyles going forward.

 

[VashTheStampede]

@VashTheStampede and for the record, you betrayed me, not @Christina because I thought you’d help her win to help me win

And for the record, all our actions (yours and mine) did was screw Christina out of a win

Fuckin patriarchy

 

[Smacktard]

I wanna chime in that I also have PTSD about the Avatar of Love game because I was pretty positive I was likely to win the game as the SK were it not for Vash's ruse, so, comeuppance for him is how I see it

 

[TD]

I'm gonna laugh so fucking hard if Jump isn't even the Corrupter and just did this as a giant "fuck you" to all of us after his thing about role claiming.

 

[Dean]

Alright, you guys made a good point about Tubby not being a confirmed townie. I get ahead of myself sometimes and lose track of stuff (like asking Vash what he was doing last night after he had already explained in excruciating detail that he had consensual prison sex). I don't know. I hate to switch at this point and seal Tubby's fate, but it would kind of be like deciding to lynch him...

 

[Tommy Boy]

Anyway since Jumpman came around and outted himself after pretty much doing what I asked for, I cannot in good conscience vote for him now. Willing to hear where else I should vote. Got about 30 mins left.

 

[Smacktard]

@Zell 17

Does the Corruptor get the choice of going through with the kill or is it automatic?

Well?

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17

Well?

No option

 

[Smacktard]

I'm gonna laugh so fucking hard if Jump isn't even the Corrupter and just did this as a giant "fuck you" to all of us after his thing about role claiming.

It'd be a hell of a gambit but so situational that I don't see it being a genuine possibility given everything we know.