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Holly said:
...and along with the *public* post, a PM was also sent at the same time in an effort to counteract the Shadow Wolf's power. Raine only gets lynched right now if every townie votes for them. Just one person voting differently or abstaining could force a tie or no-lynch situation. This is an action against that.
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I don't disagree with the action, just now you're also fully revealed and will have this ability at least once more (if not twice). Makes you a really good target for a night kill.

Unless you're trying to protect vash by being a better target.
 
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I'm certainly not one to trust every single villager to vote the same way during a shadow vote...

I get the move, we guarantee they're lynched, but it does feel like we're not optimizing the villager vote now (not that I'd have any other suggestions). Still probably better to be safe.

P.S. I'm OK with being used as the Flagger target if you want to swap any heat from a useful villager role to me at night.
 
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Ben said:
I'm certainly not one to trust every single villager to vote the same way during a shadow vote...

I get the move, we guarantee they're lynched, but it does feel like we're not optimizing the villager vote now (not that I'd have any other suggestions). Still probably better to be safe.

P.S. I'm OK with being used as the Flagger target if you want to swap any heat from a useful villager role to me at night.
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Ben said:
I'm certainly not one to trust every single villager to vote the same way during a shadow vote...

I get the move, we guarantee they're lynched, but it does feel like we're not optimizing the villager vote now (not that I'd have any other suggestions). Still probably better to be safe.

P.S. I'm OK with being used as the Flagger target if you want to swap any heat from a useful villager role to me at night.
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What’s “safe”? We let the wolves control the lynch with double votes and then night kill?

If Vash and Kelly are to be believed (and yes that’s an “if”, but it’s what we have) then we keep the vote the way it is. I don’t get the logic in trying to tank this if you’re on the towns side.
 
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Ants! said:
What’s “safe”? We let the wolves control the lynch with double votes and then night kill?

If Vash and Kelly are to be believed (and yes that’s an “if”, but it’s what we have) then we keep the vote the way it is. I don’t get the logic in trying to tank this if you’re on the towns side.
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Oh, I'm not changing my PM vote from Raine, even with Holly's move. I was just thinking how we're losing one wolf killing role action by doubling up.

But again I have no other suspicions as to who to even go for, so it's irrelevant really.

We get Raine today either way. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 
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Ants! said:
What’s “safe”? We let the wolves control the lynch with double votes and then night kill?

If Vash and Kelly are to be believed (and yes that’s an “if”, but it’s what we have) then we keep the vote the way it is. I don’t get the logic in trying to tank this if you’re on the towns side.
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Wrong.
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Ants! said:
OK I got off early today and I’m already hitting the drinking, but what you are saying is we are wasting the opportunity to use a townie killing role before the lynch?
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I haven't had real time to sit and think about all the roles either. I thought the judge just got to kill someone during the day and figured we were wasting one, but I reread it and now have other concerns.

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During the day, can select a player to convict. Selection must be sent via PM. Conviction will only occur if the village does not successfully lynch anybody. The judge may convict up to two players per game. If the player convicted does not belong to the village team, they will be killed. If the player convicted does belong to the village team, they will survive and the judge will be killed by angry villagers
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If the wolves unanimously vote to lynch someone, does that negate the judge's power? This implies if they picked someone and there is a lynching, Judge conviction gets skipped.

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Ben said:
I haven't had real time to sit and think about all the roles either. I thought the judge just got to kill someone during the day and figured we were wasting one, but I reread it and now have other concerns.


If the wolves unanimously vote to lynch someone, does that negate the judge's power? This implies if they picked someone and there is a lynching, Judge conviction gets skipped.

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I think Holly was letting us know she’ll swing it for us in case of a tie.
 
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Is it a safe assumption that Raine must be a wolf? We were about to bury her in the lynch vote, and I don't think they wouldn't use such a valuable move to rescue a townie.

I think we were on to something, and they are trying to scramble to avoid losing one of their members right off the bat.
 
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canadaguy said:
Is it a safe assumption that Raine must be a wolf? We were about to bury her in the lynch vote, and I don't think they wouldn't use such a valuable move to rescue a townie.

I think we were on to something, and they are trying to scramble to avoid losing one of their members right off the bat.
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Well, as a person with experience being on a team with a shadow wolf, you cannot coordinate at all during the day until the power is used. This means no chatting any day until then.

This would have either been set in motion last night or is a risky move since they wouldn't be able to coordinate their vote otherwise.
 
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Ben said:
I haven't had real time to sit and think about all the roles either. I thought the judge just got to kill someone during the day and figured we were wasting one, but I reread it and now have other concerns.


If the wolves unanimously vote to lynch someone, does that negate the judge's power? This implies if they picked someone and there is a lynching, Judge conviction gets skipped.

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So let's say this was a plan they formulated during the night.

What happened leading up to the shadow?

What else might be part of the plan?
 
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Benzine said:
I'm here, I'm somewhat awake, I just bought a pie, and although work starts in 12 minutes, I'm ready.

What's going on?
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Kelly was quick to get amongst with lies last game to try and display his own innocence. I don't know how it would correspond role wise this game, but I don't think he'd try that again. I think I'd be inclined to trust that, but maybe I'm being harsh on my thoughts and trying too hard to forget Kelly's past naughtiness. So voting Raine sounds good, and we can kill Vash if it's not good! Haha.

Good luck Holly, that sounds like a fun role.

Is that a real voting twice?
 
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