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Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version Day 2 + Night 3

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I stayed up pretty late writing in my diary, hoping that that evil ball of fire would not return once more to her throne in the sky and cause the solar madness to take hold once more.
that's suspicious. what did you have for dinner?
my friends came over and we had a wonderful meal. spaghetti with sausage. it was delicious!

for the record if anyone gets too suspicious it was veggie sausage
yeah... but what was the desert?
I'm glad that shortkut's plan went off without a hitch. Both kills happened as expected, and since Benzine was targeted that means I still have a protection potion, Cole should also.

We should just protect each other. :p
we can't do that. what we need to do is say that the 3 of us(myself Holly and @Ryan! ) (until more roles are known) may randomly protect each other. but we need to spread the potions around. they can't know that we're off limits.

plus if we only protect each other, and the berseker targets us, they get a guaranteed double. I'd rather die alone than take one of you with me.

so protect me some nights, not others.
Should we try to make plans for the sheriff and red lady for the next night? Or just have the pick a random person in hopes of catching something?
if they choose to reveal, we can loop them into plans, but as of right now, we need more information.
I would honestly like to have the gunner kill someone during the day, because once we get the fool out of the way, we can more safely lynch people.

I have a target in mind for who the fool might be
gunner shouldn't kill at random any more than we should.

who's your target in mind?
 

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who's your target in mind?
My target was @VashTheStampede . I checked and he and @Holly are not on the same team. We are reasonably sure holly is a witch. Vash also seems, as you pointed out, to be dropping hints that he is a wolf in his poetry. The only reason to do that is if you want to be lynched. The only reason to want to be lynched is if you are the fool.

Now both townies and wolves need the fool dead. We can either not kill vash during the day and hope the wolves kill him at night. If the wolves disagree with this temporary alliance and do not kill vash overnight, we lynch him tomorrow because he would appear to be a wolf. If he is not a wolf and the wolves were fucking with us, they lose as well.
 

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I'm still very much thinking Tommy is the Fool. He's definitely worth an investigation.

Vash hasn't come across as too suspicious yet. But again, I haven't seen as much from him so it's hard to make any kind of assessment. Same for Dean.

As far as what I did last night, I put the kids to bed and played a bunch of chess, mostly.

@Jawneh, why should I not vote for you?
 

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Maybe you missed where I said I investigated him and Holly. He is either fool or wolf or the 2nd witch did holly’s part of our plan and Holly is a wolf. The last option seems too contrived
Shaman wolf: Can select a player to enchant for the current/following night. They will show as the wolf shaman to all seer roles. This ability has unlimited uses, but cannot be used if the shaman wolf is the only wolf alive. The player to shaman will be selected via PM. Aura: Evil

@Zell 17 - Can you answer if the Detective counts as a seer role? Because if not, someone has been running a wonderful bamboozle.
 

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I would also like to know if the detective counts as a seer. I feel like no, but it's possible.


Because if not, someone has been running a wonderful bamboozle.
if shortkut is running game, then your opinion is what exactly? shortkut fed me another wolf? or shortkut is the fool and set up a random person hoping to be lynched when it was wrong, but I happened to hit correctly?

...that's an interesting theory, actually...
 

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Shaman wolf: Can select a player to enchant for the current/following night. They will show as the wolf shaman to all seer roles. This ability has unlimited uses, but cannot be used if the shaman wolf is the only wolf alive. The player to shaman will be selected via PM. Aura: Evil

@Zell 17 - Can you answer if the Detective counts as a seer role? Because if not, someone has been running a wonderful bamboozle.
It counts. I would be bamboozled per zell last thread. On its own I was not putting too much stock in it, but your flowery prose keeps alluding to you being a werewolf m. You’re too smart to be that obvious
 

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My question to @VashTheStampede is, why would the shaman choose you when I announced I would use Cole as my baseline? In theory, the shaman would want to hit Cole so that anyone I see matching Cole would appear safe, when in reality they are a wolf
Why would I know why the wolves would do something?
 

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My question to @VashTheStampede is, why would the shaman choose you when I announced I would use Cole as my baseline? In theory, the shaman would want to hit Cole so that anyone I see matching Cole would appear safe, when in reality they are a wolf
VALID. oh the plot thickens. why wouldn't they use it on me? it would obscure perfectly for shortkut.

and if another seer checked me that time, they'd think I was evil and could lynch shortkut (or me) for it...
 

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Jumping in to post during this discussion. So right now we have a potential lead on Vash, unless the shaman got either Vash or Holly to mix things up.


As an FYI, I'm going to continue keeping my role hidden for now, but I'm the 3rd random townie one. I think it's a better play to not announce which special ability I have.
 

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I honestly don't know. Whatever the reasoning, it was a damn good play.
Yeah, absolutely a great play to not believe shortkut whatsoever and select you instead of Cole, who kut said was going to be his baseline. They're fishing for power roles now, and without their seer they are completely blind.

I am not going to be stating who I am protecting. With the Medium gone, their super move got a lot worse. My guess is they'll be fishing for the Gunner and Doctor next.

@Fire Queen, who are you suspicious of and why?
 
Someone who read through all 30+ pages, how did Vash respond when people suspected Ants!? Was he receptive, did he defend Ants!, or did he just try to stay in the middle?

Right now, Vash and FQ are my top two suspects. I just worry one of them is the Fool.

I did go back and Vash did say to kill Ants! during the day and avoid wasting a potion.

@Fire Queen why you so quiet?
 

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The first thing we need to do is try and out the Fool. As of right now, Tommy is my top suspect for that. The Gunner can take care of him. Then we almost certainly need to string someone up today. Three wolves left is too dangerous not to get one of them.
 

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I'd like to say that at this point, with the medium gone, until the berserk wolf has been killed it's risky to announce who you're protecting at this point. It sounds like with that and voting the wolves could take out 3 people in a single night (unless someone with an instant kill take them out before they go on their rampage).
 

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The Berserker is the big one we need to go after. But we cannot safely vote until the Fool is no more. I almost wonder if that's who the wolves are fishing for. They could lose just the same as us as the result of a random voting blunder.

@A Nipple, who are you suspicious of and why?
 

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theorize. put yourself in their fur.

why would they do it? what would be the reasoning?

Best I can come up with is:

If the shaman hits Cole then, yes, whoever else kut checks looks Evil (if kut actually used you as a baseline). But they might have wanted to fool our aura seer(s)? Pick someone they think the seer would check and make them look evil and avoid the town having more solidarity?
 

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My plan would eliminate a wolf or the Fool. Unless the wolf shaman got lucky and enchanted vash, which seems less likely.

  1. Wolves need a temporary alliance with the townies.
  2. The wolves kill vash tonight
    1. Vash is killed by the wolves, he is the fool and both sides benefit
    2. Vash is not killed by the wolves, he is lynched tomorrow and both sides lose
 

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Best I can come up with is:

If the shaman hits Cole then, yes, whoever else kut checks looks Evil (if kut actually used you as a baseline). But they might have wanted to fool our aura seer(s)? Pick someone they think the seer would check and make them look evil and avoid the town having more solidarity?
That would require someone else announcing their role to have as much credibility as I have earned at this point in time
 

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My plan would eliminate a wolf or the Fool. Unless the wolf shaman got lucky and enchanted vash, which seems less likely.

  1. Wolves need a temporary alliance with the townies.
  2. The wolves kill vash tonight
    1. Vash is killed by the wolves, he is the fool and both sides benefit
    2. Vash is not killed by the wolves, he is lynched tomorrow and both sides lose
The way both sides lose is if the wolves don’t kill him to fuck with the townies. Outcome 3 is vash is not killed the wolves, he is lynched tomorrow, and the townies benefit by removing a wolf.
 

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The Berserker is the big one we need to go after. But we cannot safely vote until the Fool is no more. I almost wonder if that's who the wolves are fishing for. They could lose just the same as us as the result of a random voting blunder.

@A Nipple, who are you suspicious of and why?
Right now @VashTheStampede because it's very unfortunate to have the detective call you out like that. It certainly could have been done by the shaman, but it seems unlikely.

I'm also slightly suspicious of @Killface! due to the absence yesterday. Not because he was absent, but because I somewhat feel like he could be the berserk wolf who just didn't use the ability because they weren't around to do so, even though he had an open list of what would result in two kills, plus the regular wolf kill getting to 3. Even if they didn't get the medium (which there was a decent chance of based on how many roles were revealed), they would still have 3 townies down (including the self immolating priest) after the revival, with a chance of having 4 down if they got lucky and hit the medium (which they did).

That last one is a bit flimsy, but it is something I've thought of while reading here.
 

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The way both sides lose is if the wolves don’t kill him to fuck with the townies. Outcome 3 is vash is not killed the wolves, he is lynched tomorrow, and the townies benefit by removing a wolf.
I guess the fun part for me is how you look silly when the wolves get a free townie kill tonight because you missed the clues, Mister Police.
 

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I guess the fun part for me is how you look silly when the wolves get a free townie kill tonight because you missed the clues, Mister Police.
Maybe the beast master/hunter will put a trap to protect you and seers or myself can recheck you another day… or the wolves can enjoy a snack that is foolish for their diet
 
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