Zell Wolf GWF Wolf Version VII Night 3 / Day 3

[A Punched Face]

I'm like 90% certain on my understanding of it. But obviously Mr. Gamemaster needs to confirm.

 

[Dean]

I don't want to do this intense of a role claim, but I swear on my daughter's life that Zell gave me the Beast Hunter role in this game. I don't want you guys to find out the hard way.

 

[VashTheStampede]

As far as I know, people only appear dead as illusionist if the illusionist themselves killed them not otherwise. Plus the illusionist is crossed out now in the first post.

Okay, I wasn't convinced until the Illusionist was crossed out.

I honestly don't think roles should get crossed out when they're killed to allow more obfuscation but I'LL TAKE IT this time

 

[Benzine]

ding dong ding dong whatever the fun is ruined for me now

Ignoring what the night has brought us does anyone believe that Local was NOT the fool?

I am the bell ringer and last night I watched Tubby die (I believed he's the sheriff, sheriff would watch Raine, wolves would kill sheriff to later kill Raine).

Zell has told me that the other person I looked at, TD, is the illusionist.

I think it was so obvious that Local was the fool that TD disguised Local - rather than Local being the illusionist and disguising TD.

I could be wrong but I think I'm right. The illusionist hasn't killed in 2 days now (obvs can today, but if I'm right then they've done it to Local who is already dead), and we can remove a killer to quell the bleeding.

I vote TD.

 

[Benzine]

Further evidence... But I don't believe it's evidence, I don't think this would actually happen. TD was begging for the illusionist role.

 

[Dean]

Further evidence... But I don't believe it's evidence, I don't think this would actually happen. TD was begging for the illusionist role.

Illusionist is crossed out on the first post, dude. Sorry.

 

[Dean]

With Illusionist being dead dead, and Benzine blatantly lying, I wonder if he's the fool?

 

[Benzine]

Illusionist is crossed out on the first post, dude. Sorry.

Cannot be killed by the wolves at night. At night, can choose to disguise a player. Any disguised player will appear to be the Illusionist to all seers and will be reported as the Illusionist if they are killed. During the day, at any time, the Illusionist can decide to kill all disguised players. If the Illusionist is killed, all players will no longer be disguised. Players killed by the Illusionist still will not have their roles revealed. Aura: Unknown

 

[Dean]

Also didn't you role claim as Beast Hunter, @Benzine ?

 

[Zell 17]

Votes to lynch (4 required):

TD - 1 (Benzine)
No vote - 9 (Alu, Benzine, Dean, Jawneh, Raine, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, VashTheStampede)

Votes to skip (8 required):

No vote - 9 (Alu, Benzine, Dean, Jawneh, Raine, shortkut, Smacktard, TD, VashTheStampede)

 

[Benzine]

With Illusionist being dead dead, and Benzine blatantly lying, I wonder if he's the fool?

I'll forgive you for not playing, which leads to not reading. It's okay, no blame.

I still think you're a wolf, but not cause of this.

 

[Benzine]

Also didn't you role claim as Beast Hunter, @Benzine ?

Lol getting a bit desperate. No, I haven't.

 

[Raine]

Illusionist is crossed out on the first post, dude. Sorry.

I do need to point out that it was actually crossed out before, too.

I noticed it while preparing the spoiler'd post.

Essentially if something "Publicly" dies, it gets crossed off - right or wrong.

It's why in Game 3 (or whatever), "Random Wolf" didn't get crossed off despite Cole getting killed.

 

[Benzine]

Was Local actually your wolf buddy instead? That'd be sick.

 

[Dean]

Lol getting a bit desperate. No, I haven't.

I had it in my notes. I feel lazy right now.

 

[Raine]

Was Local actually your wolf buddy instead? That'd be sick.

Local being a wolf was one of Tubby's 2 possible outs, yes.

If you believe that I'm the Illusionist, Ben confirmed he imprisoned him.

 

[Raine]

I won't edit that out. I can't multitask lol

The Ritualist.

 

[Benzine]

Local being a wolf was one of Tubby's 2 possible outs, yes.

If you believe that I'm the Illusionist, Ben confirmed he imprisoned him.

That was for Dean, sorry, you replied at the same time and I'm too lazy to quote all the time.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Benzine obviously you realize some of us still have bellringer PTSD from the time you lied about being the ringer.

It's a lot to swallow

 

[Benzine]

I do believe you are the ritualist, that's why it was an easier pick last night.

 

[Benzine]

Benzine obviously you realize some of us still have bellringer PTSD from the time you lied about being the ringer.

It's a lot to swallow

Maybe my previous posts make more sense now. I have not been sure how to do this without information, at all... Cause yeah.

I still understand how it looks now. If I had said something without some info it would've been even worse. Do what you need to do.

 

[VashTheStampede]

@Zell 17 I dunno if you can answer this but: because someone who is a false Illusionist shows up AS the Illusionist, then technically the Marksman could kill a townie with no repercussions, no?

 

[Benzine]

@Zell 17 I dunno if you can answer this but: because someone who is a false Illusionist shows up AS the Illusionist, then technically the Marksman could kill a townie with no repercussions, no?

Great question

 

[VashTheStampede]

Maybe my previous posts make more sense now. I have not been sure how to do this without information, at all... Cause yeah.

I still understand how it looks now. If I had said something without some info it would've been even worse. Do what you need to do.

I will say that it tracks based on things I recall you saying before.

But that doesn't mean you weren't setting up a false claim all along.

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17 I dunno if you can answer this but: because someone who is a false Illusionist shows up AS the Illusionist, then technically the Marksman could kill a townie with no repercussions, no?

The marksman's arrow cannot be fooled by enchantment of any kind. If they shoot a villager, the marksman will die.

 

[Benzine]

Damned if I do, damned if I don't.

The humour has not been lost on me.

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[Benzine]

The marksman's arrow cannot be fooled by enchantment of any kind. If they shoot a villager, the marksman will die.

Local is not a townsmember, excellente.

 

[Benzine]

okay here comes an excellent post

 

[Dean]

I thought you were subtly role claiming as Beast Hunter and apparently misread the situation, but I don't think you're the bellringer.

 

[Benzine]

I find out my stuff when the murder takes place (@Zell 17 can confirm).

That means I'm pegged at the wolves kill timeframe.

The marksman killed Local before that. The "illusionist" died.

When the illusionist dies, the illusions disappear.

Illusionist
Aura: Unknown
Cannot be killed by the wolves at night. At night, can choose to disguise a player. Any disguised player will appear to be the Illusionist to all seers and will be reported as the Illusionist if they are killed. During the day, at any time, the Illusionist can decide to kill all disguised players. If the Illusionist is killed, all players will no longer be disguised. Players killed by the Illusionist still will not have their roles revealed. Aura: Unknown

I got told TD is the illusionist... And it can't be a disguise from Local.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I would like to once again offer my body to be used for science.

I am open to the idea of being lynched (and hopefully ritualistically resurrected) to act as a sort of zombie seer.

 

[Benzine]

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I thought you were subtly role claiming as Beast Hunter and apparently misread the situation, but I don't think you're the bellringer.

I don't really know how to respond to this because I don't even have the faintest idea how this could be an allusion to the beast hunter.

Me and Tubby spend a lot of timezone time together in these threads and we have chatted a bunch in the threads. So I have a good read on Tubby (imo), and wanted to see what he had to say. That's all.

 

[Jawneh]

I would like to once again offer my body to be used for science.

I am open to the idea of being lynched (and hopefully ritualistically resurrected) to act as a sort of zombie seer.

I could shoot you. I'm 1 for 1 so getting killed now for murdering a townie ain't so bad.

 

[TD]

Bell Ringer 2.0,

Thoughts incoming.

 

[Dean]

I don't really know how to respond to this because I don't even have the faintest idea how this could be an allusion to the beast hunter.

Me and Tubby spend a lot of timezone time together in these threads and we have chatted a bunch in the threads. So I have a good read on Tubby (imo), and wanted to see what he had to say. That's all.

People were talking about Tubby being Beast Hunter in a prior game and how he caused Zell to rewrite rules. I thought between that and some of your other random posts, you were trying to claim Beast Hunter, but now I realize I created that scenario in my head.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I could shoot you. I'm 1 for 1 so getting killed now for murdering a townie ain't so bad.

I'd rather not kill a confirmed town vote on my way out lol

 

[VashTheStampede]

Bell Ringer 2.0,

Thoughts incoming.

Technically 1.0

 

[Jawneh]

I'd rather not kill a confirmed town vote on my way out lol

Well, us dying would reveal a role of a person that might be sus. So switch it to someone we should know about and I'll yet a projectile your way. Ez.

 

[TD]

But first, let's set the stage. There's a very specific reason why he's trying to get me lynched of all things. There's a very specific reason they went after Tubby and not Raine.

I did not lie when I said I explicitly role claimed early.

Sometimes. You gotta go against your instinct to read left from right and read up and down.

There's only one person who has hinted to me that they caught this.

Post in thread 'GWF Wolf Version VII Night 1 / Day 1' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-wolf-version-vii-night-1-day-1.760/post-41505

 

[Raine]

Should I just post the table I've been maintaining? For all the fuckin' good it's done me, maybe it'll help y'all sort this shit out.

 

[Benzine]

I am leaving in 13 minutes for my afternoon shift of getting child, sorting child, and then 2 and a half hours of work. I can pop my head in during work but won't be as active for the next bit.

So if you could all stay up late that would be appreciated, thanks.

 

[Raine]

Alu	Marksman*
Ants!	Priest
Ben	Jailer
Benzine	Bell Ringer*
canadaguy	Detective
Dean	Beast Hunter*
Fool's Requiem	Priest*? Shaman? Wolf?
Jawneh	Marksman
Local Hero	Fool? Illusionist? Shaman?
Raine	Ritualist
shortkut	Avenger*
Smacktard	Sheriff*
TD	Tough Guy*
Tommy Boy	Berserk Werewolf
Tubby23	Sheriff
VashTheStampede	Loudmouth*

 

[A Punched Face]

But first, let's set the stage. There's a very specific reason why he's trying to get me lynched of all things. There's a very specific reason they went after Tubby and not Raine.

I did not lie when I said I explicitly role claimed early.

Sometimes. You gotta go against your instinct to read left from right and read up and down.

There's only one person who has hinted to me that they caught this.

Post in thread 'GWF Wolf Version VII Night 1 / Day 1' https://gwforums.com/threads/gwf-wolf-version-vii-night-1-day-1.760/post-41505

I mean I know you're claiming tough guy and have been for a bit. But also I did find it real sus yesterday that you thought local being jailed could lead to no Illusionist kills despite the fact he was obviously playing the fool.

 

[Benzine]

Tough Guy* Illusionist*

 

[TD]

Alu	Marksman*
Ants!	Priest
Ben	Jailer
Benzine	Bell Ringer*
canadaguy	Detective
Dean	Beast Hunter*
Fool's Requiem	Priest*? Shaman? Wolf?
Jawneh	Marksman
Local Hero	Illusionist? Shaman?
Raine	Ritualist
shortkut	Avenger*
Smacktard	Sheriff*
TD	Tough Guy*
Tommy Boy	Berserk Werewolf
Tubby23	Sheriff
VashTheStampede	Loudmouth*

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Where's the fool?

 

[Dean]

Benzine says TD is the Illusionist
Benzine says he is the Bell Ringer (random villager role)
TD says he is the Tough Guy (random villager role)
Both Alu and Jawneh claim they are Marksmen (one guaranteed, the other a third random villager role)
I'm the Beast Hunter (fourth random villager role)
Vash claims to be the Loudmouth (fifth villager role)
shortkut claims to have a villager role, which at this point may be impossible unless he's the Ritualist (already claimed by Raine) or a sixth random villager role

And that doesn't even include Smacktard/Kelly

 

[Raine]

Tough Guy* Illusionist*

Specifically what they're claiming, unless they're already dead in the case of FR and LH.

 

[Benzine]

Where's the fool?

Dead by Jawneh's hand.

 

[Benzine]

7 more minutes of posting, all thoughts are welcome to come down my head into my shoulders, down my arms and through my fingers into this text box.