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Zell Wolf GWF Wolf Version VII Night 2 / Day 2

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Alright, fuck it. Here is my breakdown. Read it and weep.

Facts:
canadaguy was the Detective.
Ants! was the Priest.
Shortkut is not a wolf and doesn't fear dying.
Ben was the Jailer.
Fool's Requiem is dead but could be any role, including the Illusionist.

Strong opinions:
If Tommy Boy is a wolf, Raine is probably not a wolf. If Tommy Boy is not a wolf, Raine is probably a wolf.
Several players have laid low and had conspicuous role claims.

Breakdown:
Dean - I know I'm the Beast Hunter (RVR1).
Raine - claims to be the Ritualist. If Tommy Boy is a wolf, I'm inclined to believe her. If Tommy isn't a wolf, he's probably the Spirit Seer, and Raine is a wolf. Raine has been leading lynch mobs and steering votes. I hope she is truly the Ritualist. 51/49 townie.
Vash - claims to be the Loudmouth (RVR2). I have no reason to doubt this. Shortkut is pro-Vash, but I can't tell if he is 100% sure based on evidence. Vash has played the same in this game as I have seen in other games where he's been a townie, but I also know Vash is smart enough to keep his style consistent. 70% feeling Vash is a townie.
Tommy Boy - claims to be Spirit Seer (RVR - not really). Weakest evidence IMO. Tommy would know Vash is innocent if he were a wolf. I am sticking with Tommy being a wolf and Raine being the Ritualist unless I am proven otherwise. Tommy hasn't been very active, admittedly because of his new video game. I can't get past the post where he said he checked Raine and me and saw red. If this is true, then Raine is a killer. 51/49 wolfie.
Fool's Requiem - this is probably my ballsiest guess, but I think there is a good possibility that FR was the Illusionist and got very unlucky by picking shortkut, who is the Flagger. This is my wild ass guess, and I'm probably wrong. Like 25% chance here.
Alu/Altoona Pizza - I'm trying to pick up hints. I believe he's the Marksman, unless I missed a role claim/hint. I'm not entirely sold, and Alu was on my bubble of potential wolves. I know he is busy showing his house/moving, but he is always such a difficult read, it makes me nervous. I feel 50/50 on Alu.
Benzine - I am starting to have strong suspicions of them being a wolf. Not a lot of activity, besides "I don't have time. I'll have to look over things later." But later never comes. Followed by quick votes or dismissive comments. Seems careful to say much or engage. Plus, if I picked up on the hint correctly, claimed to be Beast Hunter (RVR - not really). Not saying there can't be two, but it seems kind of unlikely. I would say 80% that Benzine is a wolf.
Jawneh - I regret not lynching yesterday, as I feel that, looking back on their posts, they are likely a wolf. "Won't end the game if I die." "Not the fool". Posting about the magic eight ball. Supposed vague role claiming, but I think more likely a wolf keeping a low profile.
Local Hero - claims to be a witch but didn't know the witch cannot protect themselves and seemed to get caught. I think TD's suspicion was right and they're the Fool.
shortkut - I feel like Flagger makes sense here. Either way, I think shortkut is a random villager (RVR3). About 50% sure.
Smacktard - claims to be Sheriff but I think the original beliefs of wolf could be more accurate. Tubby is role claiming Sheriff, but there could be two. I think it's 50/50, but if I had to pick, I would guess either Kelly or Tubby is a wolf. I would pick Kelly right now.
TD - RVR4. I don't know which role. I probably missed some role claim hints too. He posts way too much!
Tubby23 - claims to be Sheriff. Similar to Kelly/Smacktard, I feel like either he is sheriff or wolf. I am barely leaning toward Sheriff right now but am prepared to be wrong.
 

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Fool's Requiem - this is probably my ballsiest guess, but I think there is a good possibility that FR was the Illusionist and got very unlucky by picking shortkut, who is the Flagger. This is my wild ass guess, and I'm probably wrong. Like 25% chance here.
This didn't even cross my mind.
 
@Altoona Pizzagives badges. -10% sus.
@Ants! Dead. No sus
@BenJailer. Didn't kill me. No sus
@BenzineToo smart to keep alive. 50% sus
@canadaguyHad to die so we may live. No sus
@Deanplaying the, "I don't know what's going on" card. 60% sus
@Fool's Requiem i think he died as a illusionist kill. Conspiring/cooporating with @Raine. Probably no sus
@JawnehI saved them and he's ungrateful. 45% sus
@Local Hero nice witch who hasn't been given a chance. 1% sus
@Raineknown expert liar. 20% sus
@shortkut Evil team I think. 89% sus
@Smacktard me no read. Sus not known. Evil? Can't say
@TD evil team, 80% probably. 99% sus
@Tommy Boy just loves games. 0% sus
@Tubby23 Australian. Can't be trusted. 10% sus
@VashTheStampede evil team 20% probability. 40% sus

Mobile tables are hard.
 
@Altoona Pizzagives badges. -10% sus.
@Ants! Dead. No sus
@BenJailer. Didn't kill me. No sus
@BenzineToo smart to keep alive. 50% sus
@canadaguyHad to die so we may live. No sus
@Deanplaying the, "I don't know what's going on" card. 60% sus
@Fool's Requiemi think he died as a illusionist kill. Conspiring/cooporating with @Raine. Probably no sus
@JawnehI saved them and he's ungrateful. 45% sus
@Local Heronice witch who hasn't been given a chance. 1% sus
@Raineknown expert liar. 20% sus
@shortkut Evil team I think. 89% sus
@Smacktardme no read. Sus not known. Evil? Can't say
@TDevil team, 80% probably. 99% sus
@Tommy Boyjust loves games. 0% sus
@Tubby23Australian. Can't be trusted. 10% sus
@VashTheStampedeevil team 20% probability. 40% sus

Mobile tables are hard.

Yeah I didn't even try to do a table.

Also, just posted all my thoughts, so you can't say I'm pretending I don't know what's going on anymore.

Now you have PROOF that I don't know what the fuck is happening. :link
 

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I did not consider the idea of creating quotes on peoples behalf...
I totally considered it in the infamous Cupid game but I didn't want to be the first to cross THAT threshold considering lying about the dead players was already enough of a dick move.

I'd say it's open season now though.
 

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Neither, necessarily. Just that what he (CG) knew from his findings, shortkut's claim doesn't exactly gel.

Doubly so with what shortkut has actually claimed as his role.
I don’t know shit. When I said vash was pro-town, it was based off his role claim that seemed to go above @TD ’s head

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I’m having fun not giving a shit. The town knows I’m not a wolf so I’m not in extreme danger of being lynched, but the town thinks I might be evil solo, so the wolves won’t waste a night kill attempt on me. Also since I don’t have an investigative role, no one needs to worry about me uncovering a false role claim
 
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I’m having fun not giving a shit. The town knows I’m not a wolf so I’m not in extreme danger of being lynched, but the town thinks I might be evil solo, so the wolves won’t waste a night kill attempt on me. Also since I don’t have an investigative role, no one needs to worry about me uncovering a false role claim

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Wolves are Benzine, Jawneh, Smacktard, and Tommy Boy or Raine.
 

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I’m having fun not giving a shit. The town knows I’m not a wolf so I’m not in extreme danger of being lynched, but the town thinks I might be evil solo, so the wolves won’t waste a night kill attempt on me. Also since I don’t have an investigative role, no one needs to worry about me uncovering a false role claim
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I’m having fun not giving a shit. The town knows I’m not a wolf so I’m not in extreme danger of being lynched, but the town thinks I might be evil solo, so the wolves won’t waste a night kill attempt on me. Also since I don’t have an investigative role, no one needs to worry about me uncovering a false role claim
Ants! Is really going to rue the day he made this game enjoyable for you
 

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Time for Tubby to have a go at this:

Benzine (3/10): Quiet but had a reasonable explanation.
TD (4/10): Pointed us towards 6 names based on the vote for Jawneh yesterday. That was Raine, LH, Vash, Dean, shortkut and I. Other than that no departure from normal
Alu (5/10): Started bandwagon on me on very little evidence…. Did then start the #TeamTubbyTracker but also just tries to sow confusion eg lets vote shortkut post
Jawneh (6/10): I'm still pretty convinced he's a wolf
shortkut (3/10): Not a wolf?
Local Hero (5/10): Claims to have been jailed Night 2, and then confirmed this via posting conversation with Ben from jail. I take this on face value as true, it's a step too far to completely make that one up. IMO. That said did almost certainly false role claim witch. On nearly every bandwagon so far. Not town but probably not wolf
Raine (9/10): Killed last night or innocent villager. Didn't like being prodded about her nightly activities and claimed/confirmed ritualist but then jumped on the bandwagon started by Alu. If she was townie she'd take what I said and use it on Tommy instead turned it back on me. Perhaps a wolf trying to get the town to make another mistake so she can use the wolf night kill elsewhere (additionally if I were dead less people with powers to catch them in the act) then very quickly swapped back to Tommy when I came in and called the new plan stupid. 9/10 suss by virtue of bing in 50/50 conundrum
Tommy Boy (9/10): Killed last night or innocent villager. Do we believe his claim on Raine and Dean, it would be a bold gambit to out one of his fellow wolves though not completely unheard of. I take his discomfort with telling lies on face value, but is this just a tactic to lull us into security. For example, if having to lie makes you very uncomfortable or anxious would it not be more wise to avoid playing. (Obviously I would prefer Tommy playing because I like him, maybe my avoidance methodology is just weird.) 9/10 suss by virtue of being in 50/50 conundrum (not trying to do a Ryan here by psycho analysisng you and if this is a step too far I apologise to you and the other players)
Dean (6/10): Claims going to tell the truth? Probably a wolf. Claiming Beast Hunter consistently, seems to understand the mechanics better than I. Was very clear on the new rule change, which either means a wolf being very clear on rules/roles or a returning player paying attention.
Vash (5/10): Role claim almost feels too obvious, but perhaps that is to avoid any level of doubt.
Smacktard (7/10): Claimed Sheriff, then when TD voted for him today claimed that it would just reveal illusionist. I have a base level of suspicion based on the initial role claim as any time there is two claims of the one role that is suspicious (despite the roughly 50% chance it could happen). Acknowledge that this would then give others suspicion of me based on the same logic.
 
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I have written and unwritten my post a lot already... I'm having trouble, you'll understand soon enough how I've fucked myself over. I will post what was involved in all the versions I made below. I really want to stay alive for another night. Feel free to kill me tomorrow if it's that big a struggle. If I can't hit, then I am shit anyway. This has been by far my worst showing. Sorry for being stuck with me this time!

I have no info about anyone who is good or bad.

I am in the random roles, to add to that mess.
 
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