Multi Grand Theft Auto VI

[dimmerwit]

In terms of variety, yeah, you're not wrong, but, I just think that there should have been more for the wait. For example, I saw this the other day...

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Big difference, sure, but, is it necessary? Or could that effort been applied elsewhere in the game? Don't get me wrong, I truly appreciate the attention to detail and the visual improvements over time, but, I'd rather see the effort elsewhere. If I had to choose between a rat that has fur with visible strands and visually discernible rings on the tail or another weapon or vehicle, I'll take the latter. Same goes for open, empty roads... Give us a few more building interiors instead of creating a highway to nowhere important.

That's not necessarily the choice though. The people making models and textures aren't necessarily the same people who implement guns, or indeed other features. I actually don't think the shots look that much different - the texture detail is quite similar but is washed out by the lighting in the lower shot. The model is better but since models are often done at higher detail and culled down to run on actual hardware I'm not sure there's much difference there either.

Visual progress is not always labour intensive anyway. The reason an increasing number of AAA games are switching to mandatory ray tracing is because it's much easier to implement for the developers. GTA VI has RTGI and I'm not convinced there'll be a fallback.

As for interiors, I agree I'd like more, but I'll say that I'd hate for them to lose scale. The map doesn't need to be massive but I'd like it to be bigger than V, which it is. I do think it's needed to represent different areas authentically.

I genuinely think this is nostalgia goggles. I played IV and V for the first time this year, back-to-back. The differences were like night and day, but in V's favor. Most people generally agree that IV has a better story (I'm not among them), but V objectively has much more variety and depth in content and complexity.

I think it's also the 5 and a half year gap between them. That said, I've always preferred V in pretty much every way.

 

[dimmerwit]

I'm curious to see the inevitable graphics downgrade that every GAMER throws a fit about after these curated, polished trailers give way to actual gameplay footage. I hope VI looks incredible like the trailer, but I don't full expect it.

They are curated yes, but Rockstar has always been pretty honest about their graphics and there's clear flaws in the screenshots that make sense for the limitations of the PS5 and Series X. I think they are best-case shots with favourable lighting, and in particular they've seemed to add lighting to highlight character faces, but I don't expect a real downgrade or anything.

 

[Mark]

They are curated yes, but Rockstar has always been pretty honest about their graphics and there's clear flaws in the screenshots that make sense for the limitations of the PS5 and Series X. I think they are best-case shots with favourable lighting, and in particular they've seemed to add lighting to highlight character faces, but I don't expect a real downgrade or anything.

I'd sooner use the phrasing "controlled environment" for the trailers... They know the optimal hardware to use based on what they used to create the game. Let's see them grab 10 different televisions, a few first run consoles with some shitty HDMI cables for some and fancy gold-plated ones for the others and see what we end up with.

 

[dimmerwit]

I'd sooner use the phrasing "controlled environment" for the trailers... They know the optimal hardware to use based on what they used to create the game. Let's see them grab 10 different televisions, a few first run consoles with some shitty HDMI cables for some and fancy gold-plated ones for the others and see what we end up with.

Controlled environment is certainly the phrase.

Not sure how the rest matters though. The age of the console doesn't matter and gold-plated HDMI cables are a marketing scam. Yes the game will look better on a hot new 4K OLED than a 2010 LCD, but so would the trailer. The game will actually benefit as it has none of YouTube's horrible compression and better HDR support.

 

[Ben]

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@Mark playing GTA.

 

[Smacktard]

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@Mark playing GTA.

Lol I didn't know you could do that. That's an impressive amount of attention to details

 

[Mark]

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@Mark playing GTA.

I've told this story elsewhere here, but, my ex bought me GTAV. I didn't get to play it the day it launched because I was sleeping through the day after working through the night doing repo. I ended up getting ridiculously stoned waiting for the install to finish on my next day off, and the very first goddamn mission was... what? Franklin and Lamar doing the most inaccurate goddamn repo I had ever seen. I got to work on my day off that day. I couldn't escape it.

Lol I didn't know you could do that. That's an impressive amount of attention to details

There's a whole mission sequence with Franklin and his crackhead neighbor Tonya where you've gotta fill in for her boyfriend impounding cars using that truck. I'm surprised you didn't encounter her during your playthrough.

 

[dimmerwit]

TBF most people do that mission and forget that repo even exists in the game.

 

[Mark]

TBF most people do that mission and forget that repo even exists in the game.

Well, here's the thing... They're two different gigs. The only people that do impound in the real world are the ones that couldn't cut it doing repo. I'm kinda disappointed that Rockstar didn't make the distinction with the amount of detail they put into their games.

 

[dimmerwit]

Well, here's the thing... They're two different gigs. The only people that do impound in the real world are the ones that couldn't cut it doing repo. I'm kinda disappointed that Rockstar didn't make the distinction with the amount of detail they put into their games.

Or maybe Tonya's BF was just a repo-impound man?

(that sounds like the world's shittest superhero)

I presume impounding comes with less gunfire?

 

[Smacktard]

There's a whole mission sequence with Franklin and his crackhead neighbor Tonya where you've gotta fill in for her boyfriend impounding cars using that truck. I'm surprised you didn't encounter her during your playthrough.

I meant the part about NPCs chasing after their car. I don't recall THAT happening in the missions, but if it did, I would've just assumed it to be scripted rather than a mechanic.

 

[Mark]

Or maybe Tonya's BF was just a repo-impound man?

(that sounds like the world's shittest superhero)

I presume impounding comes with less gunfire?

Impound is usually done during the day in most instances, and when it is done overnight, it's still bound by the same municipal/county/state laws as it is during the day. For example, those "no parking/vehicle will be towed at owner's expense" signs you've probably seen during your trips to the states? That's impound, enforced by police, parking enforcement, or property management. Legally, the signs have to be clearly posted at the entrances to a parking lot or garage and again every X amount of feet within the parking area. Generally, if your vehicle gets impounded, it's because you didn't pay a parking meter, your vehicle doesn't have a permit sticker for that particular lot/garage, or your permission expired.

Repo on the other hand... That's between your financer and the recovery agency, and it happens after you've entered delinquency on your loan. Generally speaking, every one that I went after knew their vehicle was up for repossession and actively went through the motions of ignoring communication with the bank. Repo agents only get sent out when you've actively dodged making payments with no attempt to communicate arrangements with the bank. It's a VERY costly process up front for the banks, oftentimes exceeding the amount delinquent on the loan, which means it's typically the last resort to recover the amount owed.

So, the gist of it is... I went after people willfully dodging paying their car payments, not people parking where they shouldn't like asshats.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

working through the night doing repo

Doing repos as night seems dangerous.

Random question: You ever end up doing repo for those scum "Buy here pay here" dealerships?

 

[Mark]

Doing repos as night seems dangerous.

Random question: You ever end up doing repo for those scum "Buy here pay here" dealerships?

I've worked day and night. Some accounts necessitate it, like if you live in an apartment complex that has a garage and work during the day at an office complex with lot parking for example. During the day, people are a lot more conscious and irritable. At night, the element of surprise is your best friend. Sure, there's the whole "driving down someone's 1/2 mile driveway at 3am" thing, but, you authorize repo agents to access your vehicle from the driveway in the fine print of your loan. If you pull a firearm and start shooting claiming I'm trespassing, that isn't going to fly in court.

I have worked for the BHPH places, the last agency I had an exclusivity contract with was one that not only did BHPH, but they specialized in doing so for luxury vehicles... that were outfitted with hardwired (non battery-op) GPS trackers. It was honestly cleaner and more cut-and-dry than some of the institutions, like your Toyota Financial Services or Capital One. The big banks are ruthless, the BHPH places you at least know what you're getting into from the jump. They make no secret about what'll happen if you don't pay. The problem with BHPH, though, is that it's the prime choice (other than straw purchases) for the uh... less than legitimate types of income, which opens you up to dealing with dealers and other types of upstanding citizens. It's a trade-off, really. Do you wanna get shot at by the surprised, half-lit working class guy when he's awoken to your truck in his driveway hooking to his car at 3am? Or, do you want to take a stroll into the ghetto at 3am to pop a car owned by a dude that may or may not give a shit if he puts a few rounds in you for "stealing his car"?