FQ Wolf FQ Wolf Vol. 2 - Night 3 & Day 4

[Fire Queen]

RULES​

• DAY PHASES will last at least 24 hours.
• during DAY PHASES, discuss amongst yourselves who you think the wolves are. cast your vote by putting the member name in bold in your post. you can post discussion as much as you like, just make sure your vote is clearly labeled whenever it happens. i will periodically tally votes and post updates throughout the day phase.
• during each DAY PHASE, you may change your vote a total of ONCE. when changing your vote, please indicate who you are changing your vote from and please still bold the name of who you are changing your vote to
• ACTIVITY RULES: you will only be removed from the game if you fail to vote in either 3 consecutive day phases or 5 day phases total. you may vote to abstain, just make sure it is bolded like any other regular vote
• at the end of each DAY PHASE, there will be an EXECUTION. whoever gets the most votes will be EXECUTED. in the event of a tie, the TYCOON will PM me to make the final decision. whoever kills the TYCOON gains this ability, unless the TYCOON is lynched, in which case ties will be resolved using the means in my previous game (extension of day phase, forced vote changes, and coin flip if it's still tied)
• after the EXECUTION we will enter the NIGHT PHASE. the thread will go quiet as everyone lays down their heads to sleep for the night. the wolves will discuss who they want to target and one of them will send me a message. whenever that choice has been made (and whenever i am awake to reflect it), the next DAY PHASE will start with the discovery of the next body. any other role with a night ability will message me as well should they wish to use their ability, otherwise they will indicate that they are skipping.
• REGARDING ROLE CLAIMING: do not share correspondence with me with any other player. do not explicitly claim a role (or deny that a role is yours by name). accept that vaguely claiming a role puts a target on your back. be sneaky about it.

TOWNIE ROLES​

Seer: the classic. once per night, can PM me the name of any player and will discover that player's role, if any. if the seer targets someone who is also targeted by the wolves, the seer will instead learn the identity of one random wolf. if the seer targets someone who is also targeted by the Vigilante, the seer will instead learn the Vigilante's identity.

Vigilante: one of my favorite roles, the Vigilante has a supply of wolf-killin' bullets but also a heavy conscience. if the Vigilante successfully targets a wolf, the Vigilante can keep killin'. (might cap at three times, we will see). however, if the Vigilante kills an innocent, they won't be able to use their ability anymore and will basically be a regular townie for the rest of the game. (Olga, killed by the Cursed Wolf's curse during Night 1)

Doctor: another classic. can target one person per night to make sure they do not die. if their target is also a wolf target, the wolf target will remain alive but with scars indicating they were attacked by a wolf. so, they'll know, but no one else will. if the Doctor and the Vigilante target the same person...similar scars will let the person know they were shot. (the Vigilante will still lose their ability in this case.) the Doctor will even save a wolf, given that they'd be none the wiser. if this is confusing don't worry hopefully it doesn't happen. (Alu, killed by the Alpha Wolf during Night 2)

Polycule: i've seen this role group as, like, Masons in other games but come on this way is way funnier. this is a group of 2 townies who all know each other to be definitively townie. they have no real powers beyond this apart from loving each other very deeply. if they are targeted by either Seer, their role will only be shown as Townie. however, their identity as a member of the Polycule will be revealed in the event of their death. (shortkut killed by wolf pack during Night 1) (Local Hero killed by wolf pack during Night 2)

Somnambulist: a very fancy word for sleepwalker. this person cannot be targeted by anyone during any night phase, except the seer. anyone who targets them will learn their role.

Tycoon: having recently come into a great deal of wealth, the Tycoon can bribe the executioner to break a tie. if they die, tie-breakers will be settled in the same way they were settled in the previous game. added wrinkle: if the wolves kill the Tycoon, they gain access to the money and they gain the ability to break ties

Alchemist: this person ain't going down without taking someone with them. the alchemist has been imbibing poisons not lethal enough to kill a human but definitely lethal to anyone of the lupine persuasion. if the Alchemist is targeted by the wolves, one random wolf will die during the following night phase.

Townie: can vote and can die. that's about it. there are 2 regular Townies in this game. (Jawneh executed at Tycoon's behest during Day 2) (Kat killed by wolf pack during Night 2)

WOLF ROLES​

Alpha Wolf: as the strongest of the pack, the Alpha Wolf will be able to make one kill in addition to the regular wolf kill during any one night of their choosing. however, they're also doomed if they target the Alchemist, so be careful!

Wolfscryer: the Wolfscryer has the exact same abilities as the townie Seer. however, their powers come at a cost: anyone they use their ability on will gain immunity from being targeted by the wolf pack, although the Alpha Wolf can still target them (Benzine, executed during Day 4)

Cursed Wolf: what a terrible night for a wolf-curse. if this wolf is executed, one of the people who voted for them will be chosen at random and killed simultaneously. if they die at the hands of the Vigilante, the Vigilante will also die. (Zell 17, killed by the Vigilante during Night 1)

Halfling Wolf: half-wolf and half-human, this person has chosen to cast their lot with beastkind. they will appear as a regular Townie if the Seer attempts to discern their identity. if they are otherwise killed, they will initially be revealed to be a regular Townie. however, once one full night phase and one full day phase has passed since their death, their corpse will shift and their identity as a wolf will be revealed. (VashTheStampede, executed during Day 3)

PLAYERS (9 ALIVE, 9 DEAD)​

@Abstain
@Ants!
@Benzine
@canadaguy
@Fool's Requiem
@Holly
@Jawneh
@Kat
@Local Hero
@Olga
@shortkut
@Smacktard
@TD
@Tommy Boy
@Tubby23
@VashTheStampede
@Warp
@Zell 17

 

[Fire Queen]

Damn, Local Hero died. It was even sadder 'cause he had a broken heart necklace with the initials "LH" on it. He was a poor member of a Polycule that was now just a couple...a couple of sad lovers...

DAY PHASE 4 IS A GO IT'LL LAST UNTIL 4:20 PM EASTERN TIME TOMORROW

 

[TD]

The good news?
Tubby is innocent.

The bad news?
Vash's death while I know what it means will need a little to be trusted by others.

The hilarious news?
Tubby genuinely was caught up in my worst case scenario and a terrible coincidence.

But the better news?
We executed on my 200% guarantee and now we can move on to my 100% guarantee.

The best news?
As a way for me to make it up to Tubby, we can follow through on his hit list.
(Post in thread 'FQ Wolf Vol. 2 - Night 2 & Day 3' https://gwforums.com/threads/fq-wolf-vol-2-night-2-day-3.574/post-23766)

I vote Benzine.

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Smacktard]

With still no alternative coming forward to claim Seer, the only logical move is to follow TD.

I vote Benzine, too.

If there is an alternative claim around, they've made an incredible miscalculation not revealing themselves.

I can't believe he's gone. I still see him everywhere I look ;_;

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Are we really going to continue to believe TD?

DAY PHASE 4 IS A GO IT'LL LAST UNTIL 4:20 PM EASTERN TIME TOMORROW

I refuse to believe anything other than that you delayed this day phase so that you can post 420.

 

[TD]

Are we really going to continue to believe TD?

I refuse to believe anything other than that you delayed this day phase so that you can post 420.

Ladies and gentlemen.

Wolf #3.

aka "The Alpha"

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Ladies and gentlemen.

Wolf #3.

aka "The Alpha"

lol

You couldn't be further from the truth...

 

[TD]

If there is an alternative claim around, they've made an incredible miscalculation not revealing themselves.

Here's what I find crazy - if I'm the wolves, one of them have to dispute it. Period.

Benzine was the biggest candidate to step forward, but instead of doubling down on the doctor hint, he backpeddled when called out.

I also can't wait to see this night log. Not killing me off was a severe miscalculation.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

You know... everyone thinks I'm bad at this game (and they're probably right), but TD, if you actually are a SEER, you have been absolutely worthless. Which would explain why you're still alive. You've sent 2 townies to their death and are still claiming a role in which you've provided no evidence that you are that role.

Either you're a wolf and you're playing a very dangerous game of claiming a role that you aren't, or you're the worst Seer to ever see...r. Both perfect reasons for you to remain alive. If the remaining wolves believed you were a Seer or even a useful one, you would have been dead already. Except, so far, you've orchestrated the deaths of two townies.

Here's what I find crazy - if I'm the wolves, one of them have to dispute it. Period.

Or... they don't want to fucking die at the hands of a wolf.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I also can't wait to see this night log. Not killing me off was a severe miscalculation.

Pretty cocky statement from someone who got two townies lynched...

 

[TD]

Hey look everyone, the Alpha is rattled.

I took my vote off Jawneh, I did not get him killed but he did choose to be a madlad and push for himself to get offed.

We killed the Halfling yesterday.

You're so concerned with trying to talk about what I've done.

What have you done?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I took my vote off Jawneh, I did not get him killed but he did choose to be a madlad and push for himself to get offed.

You switched your vote because you knew you were about to be lynched, so you pretended to be upset at the town and switched your useless vote.

We killed the Halfling yesterday.

You know this fucking how? Say you used your Seer ability on Vash, you would have been told that he was a townie because he appears as a townie, not as a wolf.

Halfling Wolf: half-wolf and half-human, this person has chosen to cast their lot with beastkind. they will appear as a regular Townie if the Seer attempts to discern their identity. if they are otherwise killed, they will initially be revealed to be a regular Townie. however, once one full night phase and one full day phase has passed since their death, their corpse will shift and their identity as a wolf will be revealed.

What have you done?

I can't fucking do shit. My role is absolutely useless.

 

[TD]

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Voting TD.

I don't know if he's a wolf, but he is sure playing like one.

 

[Tubby23]

Voting Benzine

FR no one thinks you're bad at this game. Also your role is only useless because you've used the power to kill Alu already.

 

[Raine]

I'm (literally) trapped in bed for an hour. This trackpad is garbo!

There are, minimally, two people the wolves can't kill at night. There is every expectation that TD would be one of those if he's not a wolf. Further, while the wolves would know who they are, they wouldn't know who the random townies were. So the odds of landing on two Nilla Wafers back-to-back are... fairly low? Plus, wolves would be trying to lynch the Alchemist and night killing the Tycoon if they had the board narrowed down that much. None of that tracks with what we're seeing, unless you're doing something like thinking TD is the Alchemist taking the heat for the Seer.

I'm still not really sold on Benzine, but I'll probably follow suit in a little while.

 

[Ants!]

I’m just “fuck it” at this point. Voting benzine.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Voting Benzine

FR no one thinks you're bad at this game. Also your role is only useless because you've used the power to kill Alu already.

I wish I was the a wolf... have a better chance at winning with the way things are looking right now...

 

[Tubby23]

I wish I was the a wolf... have a better chance at winning with the way things are looking right now...

Interesting....

If we know Benzines a wolf you should be happy unless you're a wolf

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Interesting....

If we know Benzines a wolf you should be happy unless you're a wolf

Hey, if Benzine turns out to be wolf, it will have been the first useful thing TD has done all game.

 

[Tubby23]

He killed your buddy Vash yesterday.

Also we all need to thank @Jawneh

 

[Fool's Requiem]

As far as we know, Vash was a townie and currently have no way to prove contrary. So in regards to him being a buddy, that currently holds water.

 

[Tommy Boy]

The good news?
Tubby is innocent.

The bad news?
Vash's death while I know what it means will need a little to be trusted by others.

The hilarious news?
Tubby genuinely was caught up in my worst case scenario and a terrible coincidence.

But the better news?
We executed on my 200% guarantee and now we can move on to my 100% guarantee.

The best news?
As a way for me to make it up to Tubby, we can follow through on his hit list.
(Post in thread 'FQ Wolf Vol. 2 - Night 2 & Day 3' https://gwforums.com/threads/fq-wolf-vol-2-night-2-day-3.574/post-23766)

I vote Benzine.

So this means that Benzine is the scryer and FR is the alpha? Is that correct?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Yes, I'm the Alpha, come get me. roar

 

[Tommy Boy]

As far as we know, Vash was a townie and currently have no way to prove contrary. So in regards to him being a buddy, that currently holds water.

I'm willing to wait it out and see, so far nobody has challenged TD's claim and I for one totally believe him at this point. If Vash changes tonight, which I believe he will, TD will have proved his innocence tenfold compared to the crazy baiting and shit from day 2.

@TD I think in the beginning you were slightly erratic and trying to control the narrative, but I realize now that you had a strategy. I support it. If you turn out to be a wolf, it will be Cole-level trickery. I'm here for it either way.

 

[Raine]

Yes, I'm the Alpha, come get me. roar

Also way to go all speciesist, guy. Vash is still my buddy even if he is a no good, filthy half-wolf!

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Also way to go all speciesist, guy. Vash is still my buddy even if he is a no good, filthy half-wolf!

 

[Raine]

If you turn out to be a wolf, it will be Cole-level trickery. I'm here for it either way.

Look I'm not trying to get TD killed (yet!), but for those that may have forgotten: Cole, TD and Sabat(sp?) were the apex predators of the original forums. Any slip-ups and you had one or more on your ass immediately! ...When they weren't savagely ripping one another to pieces, anyway.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

On a related note. Say Benzine isn't a wolf and Vash wasn't the Halfing, and TD has been playing the "pretend to be Seer and see how long I last" game and then he gets lynched in tomorrow's day phase. He will have effectively helped his remaining wolf teammates whittle down the townies to 7 by the next day phase with absolutely no information as to who remains.

 

[TD]

I admire your willingness to fight until the very end and not roll over.

 

[Raine]

On a related note. Say Benzine isn't a wolf and Vash wasn't the Halfing, and TD has been playing the "pretend to be Seer and see how long I last" game and then he gets lynched in tomorrow's day phase. He will have effectively helped his remaining wolf teammates whittle down the townies to 7 by the next day phase with absolutely no information as to who remains.

Even if that were the case, it would only go so far. There are still 2 living members of the Polycule, the Tycoon is still alive to break ties in the town's favor, they can't touch the Alchemist during the night or their own number drops, the Sleepwalker yet lives...

He would deserve a standing ovation, certainly. But it would all be for naught with the way the wolves have approached the last two night phases. Which isn't to say they're stupid or anything, just that the methodologies don't sync. Like if the Halfling were actually still alive, there would be nowhere for them to hide. And you wouldn't be killing safe bet townies and members of the Polycule, you'd be removing the Sleepwalker/Alchemist with the lynch and throwing a hail mary to get the Seer/Tycoon with the night kill.

 

[TD]

Does anyone else find the timing of this as funny as I do?

Post in thread 'Game Badges (Wolf, and eventually others)' https://gwforums.com/threads/game-badges-wolf-and-eventually-others.527/post-24304

 

[Tommy Boy]

On a related note. Say Benzine isn't a wolf and Vash wasn't the Halfing, and TD has been playing the "pretend to be Seer and see how long I last" game and then he gets lynched in tomorrow's day phase. He will have effectively helped his remaining wolf teammates whittle down the townies to 7 by the next day phase with absolutely no information as to who remains.

Yeah, but if TD is the seer, he tried to spec Alu the night he died. Instead of seeing what Alu was, he saw a random wolf. This is why he was saying Vash was a wolf, and why we can be confident that even though he was revealed as a townie, he's a wolf. The halfling role shows townie the first night. Only a wolf would want to purposely disregard this information.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Does anyone else find the timing of this as funny as I do?

Post in thread 'Game Badges (Wolf, and eventually others)' https://gwforums.com/threads/game-badges-wolf-and-eventually-others.527/post-24304

You're trying EXTRA hard to find proof of something that doesn't exist.

 

[TD]

You're trying EXTRA hard to find proof of something that doesn't exist.

Who called it proof? I called it funny.

Should it be proof?

 

[canadaguy]

So TD originally I was sussed out by you seemingly (or at least from my interpretation) trying to some of the role townies to out themselves. Pretty sure I misread your play there.

I am like 99% you are what you say you are. The 1% is some sort hyper-northern transcontinental Macedonian gambit (it's a chess thing only super smart people would get).

Voting Benzine

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Who called it proof? I called it funny.

Should it be proof?

Yes. It is undeniable proof that I am the Alpha Wolf. Truth be told, I'm actually the Wolfscryer and I've been arguing that your play is ridiculous. Let's completely ignore the fact that if I were wolf and thought you were ACTUALLY a Seer I would have chewed you and spit you out instead of going for LH.

 

[Raine]

Yeah, but if TD is the seer, he tried to spec Alu the night he died. Instead of seeing what Alu was, he saw a random wolf. This is why he was saying Vash was a wolf, and why we can be confident that even though he was revealed as a townie, he's a wolf.

In the interests of fairness: That could also be a convenient excuse. I knew Alu was the Doctor, and I had strong suspicion Vash was a wolf. Someone of TD's caliber would have minimal trouble connecting dots and spoon-feeding a line of bullshit to better position himself by throwing an otherwise outed wolf under the bus.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

You guys should definitely vote for me. I'm so obviously a wolf, guys. Everyone look at the wolf! Here's the wolf. Listen to me howl.

I mean, Benzine could be anything, but I am most assuredly a wolf. I mean, I just told you, so OBVIOUSLY you have to believe me. No one would EVER lie on the internet to try to gain advantage over their opponent.

 

[Raine]

Yes. It is undeniable proof that I am the Alpha Wolf. Truth be told, I'm actually the Wolfscryer and I've been arguing that your play is ridiculous. Let's completely ignore the fact that if I were wolf and thought you were ACTUALLY a Seer I would have chewed you and spit you out instead of going for LH.

But if you were the Wolfscryer, I'm quite confident you'd know that you couldn't kill him at night if you checked him. Only the Alpha Wolf could, and that was used to kill Doctor Alu.

 

[canadaguy]

No one would EVER lie on the internet

In THIS economy?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

But if you were the Wolfscryer, I'm quite confident you'd know that you couldn't kill him at night if you checked him. Only the Alpha Wolf could, and that was used to kill Doctor Alu.

Who said I checked TD? Why would I even bother? I mean, he is OBVIOUSLY the Seer. I'd check someone else to find the Alchemist...

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Side note: If we lynch Benzine and he turns out to be the Alchemist, I will laugh my ass off.

 

[Raine]

Who said I checked TD? Why would I even bother? I mean, he is OBVIOUSLY the Seer. I'd check someone else to find the Alchemist...

I'm picking up what you're putting down. But Night 0 was a random check and Night 1 was open season, aside from whatever could be/was gleaned from Day 1.

Not scrying or killing TD Night 1 or Night 2 is suspect and only leaves the possibilities that 1) they couldn't kill him (Alu's protection, Wolfscryer) or 2) he's a wolf. If he was truly not scried by Night 3 and still allowed to live, it's overconfidence in their ability to lynch or criminal negligence. Maybe both.

 

[Ants!]

As far as we know, Vash was a townie and currently have no way to prove contrary. So in regards to him being a buddy, that currently holds water.

Vash was a vash.

 

[Tubby23]

Does the fact that Benzine remains silent in the face of accusation even having seen the thread mean anything to anyone else?
I realise it is Monday morning for both of us, but I feel like he would have come to his own defense by now

 

[Tommy Boy]

Yeah @Benzine what's up bud

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@Holly

 

[Holly]

Voting Benzine.