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FQ Wolf FQ Wolf Vol. 2 - Night 2 & Day 3

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VashTheStampede

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- Vash wants to pour gas on me (makes sense, he did last time) and Benzine, which is an incredibly uncharacteristic choice, and knowing the attention is going to be on me
- Benzine tosses a throwaway vote for Vash, a stupid common wolf ally tactic so it can be reflected on later as a defense when it means nothing

My perspective:

1. Vash wants to pour gas on wolves so he chose TD and Benzine because they seem like obvious wolves.
2. TD tosses a throwaway accusation for Benzine, a stupid common wolf ally tactic to save his ass because he's on the chopping block.
 

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For Vash specifically - a reminder from yesterday.

PlayerVoted ForVotes
Zell 17Olga3
VashTheStampedeAnts!3

Just because it hadn't been deployed yet didn't mean we weren't keeping track. Voting patterns are fucky, but in the face of something like no kills - people like me are going to start there and work backwards. Zell dying was unfortunate for them, but splitting votes and trying to maximize opportunities to get the town to actually kill someone - anyone, really - is a standard wolf strategy.
 

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And then there's Tubby. Trying to slide into my DMs to trick me.

Could he be a regular townie caught up in a terrible coincidence? Possible, but unlikely.

What better way to try to discredit me than to kill the people I'm trying to checks and limit info on?

What the silly wolves didn't bother doing was reading the role of the Seer to see that they get a wolf identity if they check someone killed by the wolves.

Tubby already publically stated who I checked.
You know the saying barking up the wrong tree? You're not even in the right forest with your accusations toward me.
 

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Also, obviously, changing my vote from Fool's Requiem to VashTheStampede.

TD - 5 (Fool's Requiem, Ants!, Smacktard, Tubby23, VashTheStampede)
VashTheStampede - 4 (TD, Local Hero, Tommy Boy, Warp)

Yet to vote: 7 (Benzine, canadaguy, Holly)
 

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Blood for the Blood God!


You know the saying barking up the wrong tree? You're not even in the right forest with your accusations toward me.
Like I said previously, it's fine to leave Halfling considerations for later.

If the Alpha and the Scryer are killed, the Polycule will handle the rest. The wolves either come for the Polycule tonight and take their chances with a Seer, or they come for the Seer and the Polycule remains the core of the village.

There are publicly posted things that haven't been pointed out yet. They're going to remain that way... for now. :)
 

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Are you leaving your vote to TD?
Decide Fox Tv GIF by Paradise Hotel
 

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Oh boy here we go sacrificing another townie for TD

For the record, I retain the right to mock all of you to your faces after this phase. I might be a little rude about it, just a heads-up. :link
TD's info is the best we have to go off of at the moment. Unless anyone as claims Seer and backs it up with good evidence, it's looking like the town is going to vote for you.

edit: I just have one question -- if TD is was so sure Day 1 that I was a wolf, why did he not "peer into my soul"? And why did he abandon the idea that I was a wolf?
 
YOU never explained why for your top 3.
Ants, not sure if you missed it...but

Okay fuck it.

The 200% guarantee..

As I gazed into my crystal ball, attempting to verify the identify of the doctor that hinted as much to me.. I gasped in horror as two beastly figures started ripping him to shreds along with some ugly ass half breed wolf.

My crystal ball showed our poor doctor getting murdered. Poor Alu, in one game, burned alive by this man. In the next, ripped to shreds.

I vote Vash because he is a wolf and I know this, period.

Wolf #2.
Benzine.
(assist by Alu)

- Alu has been scried, so the only way to kill him is with the Alpha
- Day 1, claims the doctor is handsome
- Day 2, I get into my very public spat with Alu going back and forth, he hints that he is the doctor and suspects Benzine
- Why would Alu be so convinced by no target? Because he didn't protect anyone successfully
- Why would he suspect Benzine? Well duh, he didn't protect Benzine and he hinted it
- After this is when Alu and I dropped it and moved on
- Vash wants to pour gas on me (makes sense, he did last time) and Benzine, which is an incredibly uncharacteristic choice, and knowing the attention is going to be on me
- Benzine tosses a throwaway vote for Vash, a stupid common wolf ally tactic so it can be reflected on later as a defense when it means nothing

Thanks Alu. Look at this, the dead townies coming through.
 
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edit: I just have one question -- if TD is was so sure Day 1 that I was a wolf, why did he not "peer into my soul"? And why did he abandon the idea that I was a wolf?
Oh this is easy. You going after Olga the way you did heavily implied seer which was obviously bullshit in my eyes so I jumped on you. Then kut quoted me and openly defended you after not being subtle at all that he was poly. Local Hero also jumped on and defended you, you being poly made sense and a seer check would just come back as generic townie which could mean that, poly, or halfling which would have given me nothing so I never bothered.
 

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Post in thread 'FQ Wolf Vol. 2 - Night 1 & Day 2' https://gwforums.com/threads/fq-wolf-vol-2-night-1-day-2.565/post-23065

Looking at Warp's vote order table, Tubby first voted for Vash, as one on the first votes in the game. Unlikely that tubby would vote for a wolf out the gate on the chance of a bandwagon.
Throwaway votes on wolves early in the game are also a textbook play so they can look back on it and use this exact reason. It's not like Tubby actually went at Vash hard. Now, he's pretty insistent on not voting Vash when he can be voted out.
 

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The implication is that he didn't, he did a Seer check on Alu. The wolves attacked Alu, so TD got to see one of the wolves - Vash - instead.

My interpretation of the rules would indicate that means Vash is specifically the Alpha, but YMMV.
Ahh, interesting, you're right. I need to read the roles more carefully. The aligns with his RP, too.

In absence of any other facts, or contrary claims, it's only logical:
Changing my vote from TD to Vash.
 

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Alright, I went through the clusterfuck that was yesterday just to get a better handle on things. Post and table incoming Soon™.


VashTheStampede - 5 (TD, Local Hero, Tommy Boy, Warp, Smacktard)
TD - 4 (Fool's Requiem, Ants!, Tubby23, VashTheStampede)

Yet to vote: 3 (Benzine, canadaguy, Holly)
 

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This isn't reliable since people were actively aware that it was being monitored from Vote 3 onwards. That being said, it's interesting to see the switches at the end. I don't think the wolves are getting any additional information from this, but they're free to try:

Player (Bold = Lock)Voted ForVotesAdjustment
TDJawneh
1​
Local HeroTD
1​
Fool's RequiemWarp
1​
Tommy BoyTD
2​
WarpJawneh
2​
HollyTD
3​
JawnehVashTheStampede
1​
BenzineVashTheStampede
2​
Tubby23TD
4​
VashTheStampedeTD
5​
SmacktardTD
6​
Ants!TD
7​
TDTD
8​
Jawneh-1
AluBenzine
1​
JawnehJawneh
2​
Ants!Abstain
1​
TD-7
KatTD
8​
KatJawneh
3​
TD-7
Tubby23Jawneh
4​
TD-6
canadaguyTD
7​
HollyJawneh
5​
TD-6
Local HeroAbstain
2​
TD-5

If I'm to work with the assumption that the wolves would check TD pretty quickly, then I'm leaning pretty strongly towards Tubby being innocent. I don't think you risk that vote switch to remove the alleged Seer you can no longer kill at night.

I'm not entirely on board with Benzine either, but I'll think on that while doing weekend chores and poking around.
 
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