FQ Wolf FQ Wolf Vol. 2 - Night 1 & Day 2

[VashTheStampede]

We're all just working with what we've got. If we all head wolf-detecting devices, the game would have a bit less intrigue.

Yeah, we should try a game with like 6 seers. That would be CRAZY.

 

[Local Hero]

TD, at this point, we have to lunch you too determine the truth. You're saying we're being dumb and missing things. Perhaps you can explain things a little more clearly?

 

[TD]

We're all just working with what we've got. If we all head wolf-detecting devices, the game would have a bit less intrigue.

Except nobody is fishing, probing, or trying to investigate.

There's more to this than "the seer found someone, kill them!".

I've yet to even hear a suggestion as to why I'm actually a wolf and there's 6 votes for me.

I try to be subtle, no one picks up on it and Vash knows this well.

I never said the wolves CAN'T kill me, I said it would make sense for them to kill me during the day.

So let me break it down for you, I'm claiming one or more of:
a) Som.. the unkillable role
b) Alchemist
c) Been targeted by the Wolfscryer (maybe someone hinted something that caught my eye), sure, the Alpha COULD still target me but maybe that's dangerous

 

[VashTheStampede]

Doesn't help that someone else is clearly claiming A as well

 

[TD]

Doesn't help that someone else is clearly claiming A as well

Are they.. innocent?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Are they.. innocent?

I sure didn't think so yesterday and that got me pointed at today

 

[TD]

TD, at this point, we have to lunch you too determine the truth. You're saying we're being dumb and missing things. Perhaps you can explain things a little more clearly?

Saying you have to lynch me to find the truth is stupid because you could say the same thing about anyone.

 

[Tubby23]

You have to use investigative skills, conversation, intuition, and voting patterns.

The thing is we are and at this stage most people feel you're coming up short.

 

[TD]

The thing is we are and at this stage most people feel you're coming up short.

Please elaborate on what conversation or accusations anyone else is driving?

 

[Local Hero]

Please elaborate on what conversation or accusations anyone else is driving?

Maybe it's because you're driving us no where.

 

[TD]

I'm dealing with a bunch of idiots.
You really want to kill me?
Fine. I'm tired of trying to help you.
Good luck finding wolves through this cricket-fest.

Vote TD
Yes, I'm aware this is my final vote, I kind of just want to happen at this point because I'm tired of trying to help people that want to just point the finger at the only person trying to help.

Off to work and a 5 hour drive.

Good luck. You'll need it.

 

[Tubby23]

Please elaborate on what conversation or accusations anyone else is driving?

Perhaps the other three more than conversation, but I feel the point still stands

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[Local Hero]

I'm dealing with a bunch of idiots.
You really want to kill me?
Fine. I'm tired of trying to help you.
Good luck finding wolves through this cricket-fest.

Vote TD
Yes, I'm aware this is my final vote, I kind of just want to happen at this point because I'm tired of trying to help people that want to just point the finger at the only person trying to help.

Off to work and a 5 hour drive.

Good luck. You'll need it.

Out of the game: safe drive!

In game: we're all trying to help, maybe we're being too subtle for you

 

[Local Hero]

 

[Tubby23]

Yes safe drive @TD

 

[Smacktard]

I try to be subtle, no one picks up on it and Vash knows this well.

I never said the wolves CAN'T kill me, I said it would make sense for them to kill me during the day.

Trying to be subtle? How? You immediately started accusing Jawneh of killing shortkut, and now you're hinting that your role is alchemist. If you were alchemist, how would you know that Jawneh is a wolf? And if you're just trying to stir the pot, you lambasted me for the same tactic yesterday.

Try not to take it personally. It's not that "no one is paying attention" -- it's that different people are paying attention to different things, and so far you seem to be the most sus of all.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

TD's arguments for why he shouldn't be voted out do not inspire confidence, TBH. They feel like the pleas of a wolf trying to scratch and claw their way out of town before being slaughtered.

Outside of Vigi, I can't see a townie role that we desperately need to keep. Alchemist maybe? Seer and Doctor are only useful good as long as they aren't killed by the wolves, and if the tycoon were to die, they would much rather prefer to be lynched.

Has TD teased a role at some point?

 

[Ants!]

Except nobody is fishing, probing, or trying to investigate.

Why don’t you start? So far I only see you going on the defensive (which is understandable) and asking others who THEY think is sus. You post a list of 3 people but don’t say why, only that you’re sure of Jawneh.

Note: I haven’t read much of pages 4 through 7 yet, so sorry in advance if there’s something you said which I didn’t get to yet.

 

[Local Hero]

Has TD teased a role at some point?

I never said the wolves CAN'T kill me, I said it would make sense for them to kill me during the day.

So let me break it down for you, I'm claiming one or more of:
a) Som.. the unkillable role
b) Alchemist
c) Been targeted by the Wolfscryer (maybe someone hinted something that caught my eye), sure, the Alpha COULD still target me but maybe that's dangerous

 

[TD]

So I'm in the McDonalds parking lot eating my breakfast sandwich and wanted to clarify something although I may be overthinking.

When I call you idiots, it is solely in-game and is not intended to be a personal attack on anyone. It won't carry on outside of this game.

I wanted to clarify due to some recent events with another wolf game.

Happy Friday - have a good weekend.

 

[Tubby23]

So I'm in the McDonalds parking lot eating my breakfast sandwich and wanted to clarify something although I may be overthinking.

When I call you idiots, it is solely in-game and is not intended to be a personal attack on anyone. It won't carry on outside of this game.

I wanted to clarify due to some recent events with another wolf game.

Happy Friday - have a good weekend.

We love you too you hairy clawed idiot

 

[Tommy Boy]

Isn't it miraculous how after I suggest the wolves would benefit from voting for me during the day and saying good night - two votes come my way within the hour?

So you're telling me that you buy that two people come out of nowhere after having been absurdly quiet, make their largest contribution in voting for me that quickly after a not-so-subtle suggestion about myself.. are townies going after a wolf?

I explained why I was absurdly quiet, though. I truly was on a road trip back from the midwest and our town is located on the east coast. I didn't post or react anywhere on GWF the entire week. I know it's poor timing, but it is what it is. That being said, I can't help but agree with Smacktard on the points he is making. Being the loudest person in the room can sometimes guarantee your safety (see Cole, from the village over), but it can also paint you as someone trying to drive the narrative.

Also going to point out that despite the large debate between Alu (Abstain) and I, someone said that we were pointing fingers at each other - to which, Alu responded that we haven't voted for each other and you'll notice he's not on my top 3.

It's almost like conversation and debate are important, and we both understand this.

This doesn't make me feel any better about the situation, and the only reason I voted for you over Alu is the fact that you are being so vocal - almost forcibly vocal in our town. If you turn out to be a townie, which I don't think you will, Alu's suspicion skyrockets as he is also driving the narrative with these cute tables.

Arguably at this point, killing you is the smartest move. If what you claim is true, wolves won't target you during the night phase, so we'd never find out whether or not you were telling the truth until the end of the game. At least this way we get that suspicion out of the way right away, and if we're wrong, recalibrate.

I agree with this.

 

[TD]

We love you too you hairy clawed idiot

You're still wrong, but if losing key role is what it takes to convince you, then fine. We'll know in a bit under three hours.

 

[A Punched Face]

If TD does turn out to be innocent and has a good townie role, then man...what a bad move earlier to make a bunch of claims about how things should be obvious and then not bother to explain how they are obvious.

You're at the point where you're about to be lynched and you still don't want to explain any of those statements. If it's for the good of the town, you may as well come out with it, because you'd be dead via the town otherwise and it would be potentially useful information to have.

 

[TD]

I'm fishing and trying to get people to speak up because everyone is being insanely quiet. The quiet does nothing but helps the wolves.

Yes, I could be a wolf trying to dictate what the town does, but I'm not.

I'm trying to get people to engage in conversation to see how they react.

Who I am will be revealed when you kill me and the table is my parting gift.

I have less than three hours to get 6 votes off me or onto someone else, with the complete lack of engagement, it's not going to happen.

 

[Local Hero]

If TD does turn out to be innocent and has a good townie role, then man...what a bad move earlier to make a bunch of claims about how things should be obvious and then not bother to explain how they are obvious.

You're at the point where you're about to be lynched and you still don't want to explain any of those statements. If it's for the good of the town, you may as well come out with it, because you'd be dead via the town otherwise and it would be potentially useful information to have.

He's also driving, so I won't expect much, though I do agree.

He did list his top 3 suspects, though without evidence. And we always have Alu to string up next

 

[TD]

He's also driving, so I won't expect much, though I do agree.

He did list his top 3 suspects, though without evidence. And we always have Alu to string up next

Evidence will reveal itself between my role and table.

 

[TD]

I'll throw out my hail mary though and truth bomb.

I'm completely bluffing on Alchemist. Why? I'm a consistent night target and I wanted the wolves to think twice about killing me. With me on pace to be lynched, that bluff either didn't work or worked too well and I got a bunch of wolves voting for me. So keep an eye on that.

I do know things. There is a lot of guessing coming through the process of elimination, but I do have facts.

Again, the table will guide you.

 

[TD]

Anyhow, done my sandwich. Back on the road.

Good luck.

 

[A Punched Face]

He's also driving, so I won't expect much, though I do agree.

He did list his top 3 suspects, though without evidence. And we always have Alu to string up next

If TD is innocent, then the wolves have been salivating all day.

 

[canadaguy]

Anyhow, done my sandwich. Back on the road.

Good luck.

Wait!


What kind of sandwich was it?

 

[Tubby23]

What are your plans tonight guys? Quiet night at home, perhaps some murder?

 

[Fire Queen]

TD - 8 (Local Hero, Tommy Boy, Holly, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, Smacktard, TD, Ants!)
Jawneh - 1 (Warp)
Warp - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
VashTheStampede - 1 (Jawneh)
Benzine - 1 (Abstain the user not the action)

Yet to vote: 4 (@canadaguy, @Benzine, @Kat)

two hours remain

 

[A Punched Face]

Hm, so it turns out you can vote for yourself in this game.

 

[A Punched Face]

I'm going to throw down a vote for @Benzine because he was my first suspect on the day and at this point it doesn't seem like the vote matters otherwise.

 

[Ants!]

TD - 7 (Local Hero, Tommy Boy, Holly, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, Smacktard, TD)
Jawneh - 1 (Warp)
Warp - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
VashTheStampede - 1 (Jawneh)
Benzine - 1 (Abstain the user not the action)

Yet to vote: 4 (@canadaguy, @Benzine, @Kat , @Ants!)

two hours remain

I voted for TD

 

[Tubby23]

I think it's safe to say we won't see a vote from Benzine as it's already 3.20am in NZ

 

[A Punched Face]

I think it's safe to say we won't see a vote from Benzine as it's already 3.20am in NZ

Yeah, obviously he's busy doing his wolfly duties in the middle of the night at this point.

 

[TD]

Wait!


What kind of sandwich was it?

Bacon, egg, and cheese mcgriddle.

McDonald's isn't my top choice but I have limited options.

Also @Fire Queen
Benzine voted Vash.

 

[Local Hero]

I'm going to throw down a vote for @Benzine because he was my first suspect on the day and at this point it doesn't seem like the vote matters otherwise.

 

[TD]

Piss break. Iced coffee went right through me.

 

[Tubby23]

 

[canadaguy]

 

[TD]

 

[TD]

It was nice to get some final shitposting in.

I think I'm ready for the road again. Next time I check in, I assume you'll know the truth.

 

[canadaguy]

 

[Raine]

And we always have Alu to string up next

This sentiment is truthfully why we'll lose, if anything.

Anyone that speaks is suspicious. Disagreeing with anything someone says makes you both suspicious. The only way to not be suspicious is to not talk and let the wolves do as they please.

"If TD is innocent, we'll kill Alu" - "If TD is guilty, we'll kill Warp" - "If they're all X we'll kill Y"

The context doesn't matter in those scenarios, it's all reactionary play until/unless it's spelled out that someone has a specific role and can play leader with no doubts remaining. I don't know if TD is guilty or not. I don't know if Alu is, either. But if I have a strong feeling one way or the other, I can - and will - articulate just why that is. If that increases or decreases my suspicions, good. That's the point. And that works both ways - the more you insist someone is +/-, the more +/- we can gauge in kind.

In Zell's last game the wolves were all better townies than the actual townies, and the town won not (just) because of a job well done but because the rules happened to favor them and they got lucky on the mass murder spread. It's still early in the game, but I don't see a lot of difference between FQ#1, Zell#3 and what's happening here so far.


Also, the usual disclaimer: The more easily a bandwagon forms, the more likely it is that you're wrong.

 

[Jawneh]

Can we get a last minute bandwagon going on me to save wash? As much as it sucks that I'd be out of the game, I'd like to hear what he says when everyone sees who I am. He'd have some more explaining to do, especially since he never asked if anyone here wanted a breakfast burrito or something. :/

Switching vote to Jawneh.

 

[Jawneh]

To save wash? What the hell is my autocorrect doing?! To save TD.

Holy crap it does try to make "TD" into "wash". Technology man.