FQ Wolf FQ Wolf Vol. 2 - Night 1 & Day 2

[Tubby23]

TD having voted for himself might be the nail in his own coffin, hoisted by his own pittard.

 

[Raine]

To save wash? What the hell is my autocorrect doing?! To save TD.

Holy crap it does try to make "TD" into "wash". Technology man.

TD (Bank) confirmed elaborate money-laundering scheme. Ergo, TD (Bank) evil.

I don’t get this logic. The easiest bandwagons are formed when a wolf legit fucks up.

Well yes, sure, but in the absence of that... Like, this whole thing with Jawneh.

I don’t know about Jawneh, but if TD is lynched and turns out to be wolf then I immediately owe Alu an apology and Warp becomes my highest suspect.

*flails arms*

Ants why do you torture me so. Like if I'm stretching to agree, sure, fine, absolutely. But if it's because the logic is sound, then you're just following up a success with an own goal.

 

[Smacktard]

How have we not talked about Smacktard yet? He insisted Olga was a wolf when we know for a fact she's not. I think he was claiming he's poly, right? I know we don't want to out people without a benefit, but knowing whether that's true or not would be very helpful. Or did someone already vouch for him?

Yes, erm, I can vouch for this "Smacktard" character. He certainly seems like a good and non-suspicious chap to me.
Don't read the name above this post btw.

 

[Jawneh]

But if you really are innocent and TD is wrong, then lynching you will make him look bad and we'll just lynch him next. So how does it save him? And why would you assume he's not a wolf looking for an excuse to get you lynched instead of him?

I play for the smaller things than grandiose things. It's more fun more often to have folks' suspicions get completely blown out the water than try to play 5D chess all game long. Where as that is really rewarding as well, I prefer my serotonin in smaller chunks.

It also would be TD's problem tomorrow to give the town something to go with if he lives and I die. As things stand now in this small bubble, me dying instead of TD is the lesser bad. I got no problem drawing heat if it benefits us in the long run. Should he be saved from being lynched altogether? Maybe not, considering how everyone took his talking today, but also now he has an extra night to try to get us info to feed to us. The only absolutely worst case scenario is that he's the wolfscryer and gets wolves an extra night of finding folks. That's the only thing I'm worried about and he would technically not be wrong trying to play both sides depending on what he sees.

 

[TD]

I'm just going to remind anyone in case there are different polys out there, Smacktard insisted on day 1 that the wolves claiming poly is a real theory and it's been suggested that is what he is.

 

[Kat]

Yes, erm, I can vouch for this "Smacktard" character. He certainly seems like a good and non-suspicious chap to me.
Don't read the name above this post btw.

Well I'm convinced!

 

[Local Hero]

In complete other news, I just realized the emojis here are from the original GW

 

[Raine]

If there's anything I'm certain of, it's that wolves aren't going to do a 3-person wagon attempt containing 2 wolves. Zell was a wolf, therefore Kat and Smacktard are not. Flawless reasoning, guaranteed to not bite me in the ass.

This won't apply to the next game since it's now been publicly stated. But.

 

[Tubby23]

 

[Smacktard]

Well I'm convinced!

*whispers to self*
Kelly, you silver-tongued devil, you've done it again!

 

[TD]

kut was one of a few that suggested poly. He conveniently ended up dead.

There's been way more poly suggestions than actual players.

That means there's people hinting poly that are lying.

The real poly group needs to band together and find them.

The only two who have shown explicit unity is Hero and Smacktard, who voted for me yesterday and continue to vote for me today.

If they are poly, then the other loose poly claims are not.

You have targets to look into.

 

[Tubby23]

What's the vote count

 

[TD]

kut showed a very loose defense of Smacktard but that was more about his eagerness. At the time I interpreted it as backing up a poly, maybe that's why they killed kut so we couldn't clarify.

Something to consider.

There's poly liars out there. Period.

 

[Local Hero]

There's been way more poly suggestions than actual players.

I don't think this is true. Olga said she liked the role, but want hinting at the role.

 

[Kat]

The only absolutely worst case scenario is that he's the wolfscryer and gets wolves an extra night of finding folks. That's the only thing I'm worried about and he would technically not be wrong trying to play both sides depending on what he sees.

I just looked at the table and I don't see any information that seems helpful, even if he is a seer. If there are hints, they're too subtle for me. (Which is admittedly not saying much.) I feel like a wolf seer would give something more explicit as better cover.

Warp's table seems more like she's got actual seer info to me. She has me down as straight up innocent even though I've been acting pretty suspicious this game. In fact she has exactly two people listed as innocent, which is how many checks a seer would have so far. She hasn't disputed TD's seer claim though. And I guess a wolf would know all the innocent people, so maybe it's nothing.

 

[TD]

Who I am should be clear and certain votes remain on me. Remember this.

 

[Tubby23]

I didn't even know what polycule meant at first, and then googled (dangerous). Then agreed that it was a cool role but it had already turned into a shit fest

 

[Kat]

I don't think this is true. Olga said she liked the role, but want hinting at the role.

Yeah, I almost posted something similar. The poly role is really cool. Being poly isn't very accepted IRL so I appreciate it being in a game and considered a cute thing. I don't think we can jump on people for simple appreciation.

If someone else has actually hinted at being poly, I missed it.

 

[TD]

I just looked at the table and I don't see any information that seems helpful, even if he is a seer. If there are hints, they're too subtle for me. (Which is admittedly not saying much.) I feel like a wolf seer would give something more explicit as better cover.

Warp's table seems more like she's got actual seer info to me. She has me down as straight up innocent even though I've been acting pretty suspicious this game. In fact she has exactly two people listed as innocent, which is how many checks a seer would have so far. She hasn't disputed TD's seer claim though. And I guess a wolf would know all the innocent people, so maybe it's nothing.

There's a very specific role mention there that expresses some uncertainty which only a seer could see, to be fair.

 

[TD]

Yeah, I almost posted something similar. The poly role is really cool. Being poly isn't very accepted IRL so I appreciate it being in a game and considered a cute thing. I don't think we can jump on people for simple appreciation.

If someone else has actually hinted at being poly, I missed it.

Ants suggested Alu and Local Hero were in bed with him last night.

 

[Kat]

Ants suggested Alu and Local Hero were in bed with him last night.

And he quickly clarified it was a joke. He was clearly hinting at sleep walker.

 

[Kat]

Abstai	Concerned I locked in on Smacktard, didn't care about other lock ins
Ants!	Anti bandwagon
Benzine	Finds doctor handsome
canadaguy	Cute pink thing
Fool's Requiem	Reasonable, it's weird
Holly	Didn't contribute Day 1
Jawneh	Has not hinted much
Kat	Believed Smacktard was seer really quick, not as investigative as usual
Local Hero	Loves poly, allied with Smacktard
Olga VIGILANTE	Loves poly but not poly or seer, hinted useful role
shortkut POLY	Loves poly, defended self and some others
Smacktard	Hinted seer but not seer, maybe poly, weird ideas for wolf strategies
TD	Trustworthy
Tommy Boy	Missing for a week
Tubby23	Townie?
VashTheStampede	Shitposting
Warp	Likely innocent
Zell 17 CURSED WOLF	Couldn't hide from Olga

Here's the table in case anyone else is wanting an easy way to look at it.

 

[VashTheStampede]

And he quickly clarified it was a joke. He was clearly hinting at sleep walker.

Yeah that was a weird thing that made it feel like waffling more than a joke IMO

But I could just be being overly suspicious

 

[TD]

And he quickly clarified it was a joke. He was clearly hinting at sleep walker.

Or was he fishing?
Got a reaction out of Local Hero.

It just seems awfully convenient that the apparent good strategy of wolves claiming poly has been hinted at by Smacktard, Local Hero is aligned with ST, and they've both voted for me on both days.

 

[Kat]

There's a very specific role mention there that expresses some uncertainty which only a seer could see, to be fair.

I see it now. So who else did you check, since your death is likely imminent?

 

[TD]

I see it now. So who else did you check, since your death is likely imminent?

"Innocent" and "Townie?"

 

[Kat]

Or was he fishing?
Got a reaction out of Local Hero.

It just seems awfully convenient that the apparent good strategy of wolves claiming poly has been hinted at by Smacktard, Local Hero is aligned with ST, and they've both voted for me on both days.

Then why aren't any actual poly people refuting it? And why didn't shortkut jump on Smacktard as a liar instead of defending him?

 

[Kat]

"Innocent" and "Townie?"

So you checked three people?

 

[Fire Queen]

current vote count (i'm 99% sure)

TD - 6 (Local Hero, Tommy Boy, Holly, VashTheStampede, Smacktard, TD)
Jawneh - 4 (Warp, Jawneh, Tubby23, Kat)
Warp - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
VashTheStampede - 1 (Benzine)
Benzine - 1 (Abstain the user not the action)
Abstain the action not the user - 1 (Ants!)

Yet to vote: 1 (@canadaguy)

there's a lot of good discussion going on rn but i don't want to extend it TOO long in the interest of fairness so we're gonna go until 2 PM eastern (so 25 more minutes)

also let me know if i missed any votes and as a reminder it doesn't count as a vote change to switch to abstain

 

[Tubby23]

current vote count (i'm 99% sure)

TD - 7 (Local Hero, Tommy Boy, Holly, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, Smacktard, TD)
Jawneh - 3 (Warp, Jawneh, TD)
Warp - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
VashTheStampede - 1 (Benzine)
Benzine - 1 (Abstain the user not the action)
Abstain the action not the user - 1 (Ants!)

Yet to vote: 1 (@canadaguy)

there's a lot of good discussion going on rn but i don't want to extend it TOO long in the interest of fairness so we're gonna go until 2 PM eastern (so 25 more minutes)

also let me know if i missed any votes and as a reminder it doesn't count as a vote change to switch to abstain

I changed vote to Jawneh

 

[A Punched Face]

Ants suggested Alu and Local Hero were in bed with him last night.

I can confirm I'm not poly. So if that was meant to be the suggestion there rather than a joke it's inaccurate.

 

[TD]

Then why aren't any actual poly people refuting it? And why didn't shortkut jump on Smacktard as a liar instead of defending him?

Because we just made a big deal yesterday of them not outing themselves. Kut's defense could be defending as a person or as a role, I'm unclear.

Smacktard has never suggested poly themself, instead, accused Olga, saying if they were poly then a poly would come to her defense which makes no sense to openly do if ST and Hero were poly. Almost like they're trying to find the poly roles themself.

I could be wrong but just a thought.

 

[Fire Queen]

I changed vote to Jawneh

fixed--that's the other reason i wanted an extension is because i knew i would miscount lol

 

[Tubby23]

current vote count (i'm 99% sure)

TD - 6 (Local Hero, Tommy Boy, Holly, VashTheStampede, Smacktard, TD)
Jawneh - 4 (Warp, Jawneh, TD, Tubby23)
Warp - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
VashTheStampede - 1 (Benzine)
Benzine - 1 (Abstain the user not the action)
Abstain the action not the user - 1 (Ants!)

Yet to vote: 1 (@canadaguy)

there's a lot of good discussion going on rn but i don't want to extend it TOO long in the interest of fairness so we're gonna go until 2 PM eastern (so 25 more minutes)

also let me know if i missed any votes and as a reminder it doesn't count as a vote change to switch to abstain

TD is also listed as voting twice

 

[TD]

fixed--that's the other reason i wanted an extension is because i knew i would miscount lol

I'm embarrassed to say my vote is on me and not Jawneh.

Wild.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I'm still open to changing my vote off of TD but I have two problems with that.

1. He is still the most suspect to me
2. Why are we so sure about Jawneh that we're willing to throw him out in TD's place? What did I miss?

 

[Jawneh]

I'm embarrassed to say my vote is on me and not Jawneh.

Wild.

My vote is on me and not you too!

Not that I'm after you, but there's some poetism there.

 

[Tubby23]

I'm still open to changing my vote off of TD but I have two problems with that.

1. He is still the most suspect to me
2. Why are we so sure about Jawneh that we're willing to throw him out in TD's place? What did I miss?

Jawneh has sacrificed themselves

 

[TD]

I'm still open to changing my vote off of TD but I have two problems with that.

1. He is still the most suspect to me
2. Why are we so sure about Jawneh that we're willing to throw him out in TD's place? What did I miss?

Jawneh is convinced we are both good and wants to sacrifice themself to save my role.

 

[Kat]

Because we just made a big deal yesterday of them not outing themselves. Kut's defense could be defending as a person or as a role, I'm unclear.

Smacktard has never suggested poly themself, instead, accused Olga, saying if they were poly then a poly would come to her defense which makes no sense to openly do if ST and Hero were poly. Almost like they're trying to find the poly roles themself.

I could be wrong but just a thought.

I can agree with not outing them with no immediate benefit, but if it'll identify two wolves then they obviously should. I imagine they'd agree. I'm inclined to believe those claiming.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Jawneh is convinced we are both good and wants to sacrifice themself to save my role.

HOW IS THAT NOT CRAZY TO ANYONE ELSE?

Why are we sacrificing an innocent person?!

 

[A Punched Face]

HOW IS THAT NOT CRAZY TO ANYONE ELSE?

Why are we sacrificing an innocent person?!

It is crazy to me as well. The whole thing is weird.

 

[Tubby23]

HOW IS THAT NOT CRAZY TO ANYONE ELSE?

Why are we sacrificing an innocent person?!

Of course it's crazy but it's the lesser evil

 

[Jawneh]

HOW IS THAT NOT CRAZY TO ANYONE ELSE?

Why are we sacrificing an innocent person?!

Because I'm only there to make up the numbers and not be useful in any other way.

 

[Tubby23]

Or TD played us either way

 

[TD]

HOW IS THAT NOT CRAZY TO ANYONE ELSE?

Why are we sacrificing an innocent person?!

I mean you ARE voting for me.

 

[Kat]

I'm still open to changing my vote off of TD but I have two problems with that.

1. He is still the most suspect to me
2. Why are we so sure about Jawneh that we're willing to throw him out in TD's place? What did I miss?

I feel like Jawneh knows TD is innocent because he's a wolf himself and is using this to show himself as innocent, especially since TD is hinting seer and accused him.

Honestly it's a hunch I was never sure about and the reactions have only made me more confused.

 

[TD]

And we thought we needed Cole to make this interesting when all you needed was a couple madlads to vote for themselves.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I mean you ARE voting for me.

I know what you're saying but you have to admit this is all sorts of fucking weird

 

[TD]

I know what you're saying but you have to admit this is all sorts of fucking weird