Zell Wolf Discussion Thread v1

[shortkut]

I don’t think Cole and I have ever been wolves together

 

[Tubby23]

yours was such an unfortunate mistake. we overwhlemed the thread with discussion, and you JUST WANTED TO HELP lol

ah well, live and learn. i won't eat you first don't worry.

Yes I just got myself so lost with the discussion, if I had just slowed down and thought they have a clear plan, shut up and let them keep discussing you'll be fine until tomorrow.

I could have helped the next day or even if I was going to go then believe Fool and throw my water at Ants

 

[Ryan!]

Okay okay, I just need some closure to know how my plan would've shaken out if I'd had a chance to implement it. Obviously I would've missed the end of the day even if you didn't skip and wouldn't have been able to do some of this, so this isn't "I would've totally won guys it's all your fault", I just want to know.

@Zell 17 who all protected shortkut the night I missed?
@Ryan! Who would you have protected if FQ didn't take you out with her?

Based on where I left the thread, I would've suggested this:
- change avenger target to Vash
- berserk kill shortkut

I fully believed Ryan was a bodyguard until he was killed. With that as an assumption, this would've guaranteed there was at most one seer left, which is useless with our shaman, and would've maximized possible carnage with the berserk kill. Since I believed there were 4 protectors (two witches, bodyguard, unknown doctor), it could've taken out up to 5 people at once. That'd be very unlikely of course, but 3 was a good chance, and more wasn't crazy unlikely. The absolute chaos from losing both people who could give any insight plus several people total would've been amazing. At that point, it's down to finger pointing and anybody's game.

Shaman wasn't really needed, but I'd pick Alu or Jawneh just in case the other happened to be a seer. If they happened to exist and checked me, blaming the shaman was an easy out.

So how many people would I have taken out?

I was gonna protect Dean. I figured he had some kind of kill role, which is why he was playing passive and relaying information. I figured he was trying to gather as much intel as possible to learn who he should target. I figured he was the Gunner but didn't think he was a third townie.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Actually a question I didn't know the answer to @Zell 17 : if they berserked kut on the night I protected him, would I just straight up die (along with him) or would I still have had the following day phase to tell people whatever random wolf would have been revealed to me?

 

[Ryan!]

Actually a question I didn't know the answer to @Zell 17 : if they berserked kut on the night I protected him, would I just straight up die (along with him) or would I still have had the following day phase to tell people whatever random wolf would have been revealed to me?

Yeah that's a good question. It's what made me hesitant to claim Tough Guy, even though I thought after that would have been the better play.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Exactly yeah. Not knowing (granted I could have asked) is why I didn't protect every night (because I thought they would have berserked). But if I still had the next day phase, then even if they killed off both kut and I that night we would have had a guaranteed kill the next day, leaving only 1 more wolf to find. Since Cole likely would have been alive, and he suspected either me or Kat as a wolf (but not both), then if I had found out about killface it likely still would have ended with a townie win. If I found out about Kat it would have been more questionable.

 

[Zell 17]

Actually a question I didn't know the answer to @Zell 17 : if they berserked kut on the night I protected him, would I just straight up die (along with him) or would I still have had the following day phase to tell people whatever random wolf would have been revealed to me?

Immediately dead. TG only works for "normal" attacks.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Immediately dead. TG only works for "normal" attacks.

So yeah, that would have changed a lot.

Would the beast hunter's trap have still gone off and the beast hunter live? That one still confuses me since technically they wouldn't need to be there and technically the berserk wolf could have been the one trapped/dead.

 

[Zell 17]

So yeah, that would have changed a lot.

Would the beast hunter's trap have still gone off and the beast hunter live? That one still confuses me since technically they wouldn't need to be there and technically the berserk wolf could have been the one trapped/dead.

The target of the berserk dies. The BH dies. A random wolf also dies.

 

[Holly]

I had fun, good game everyone. And I look forward to playing wolf with you all in the future.