Zell Wolf Discussion Thread v1

[Tubby23]

Well what a blunder I made hey.

@Benzine what's your gut feelings on things so far?

I'm sold that Ants! is a wolf, and Fool is not a wolf but potentially one of the other two roles.

 

[Benzine]

Indeed, why not wait?

There's no need for gut feelings. I'm just gonna wait a short amount of time for people to tell me some shit and then revive a key person at a key moment while proclaiming heaps of information I hopefully have and can make a plan from there.

I've not finished work yet so haven't had time to read the entire thread, but if they think they're onto it with some of these other kills, it mightn't be all that hard to sort the rest out - depending on who dies from both sides.

I just have to keep alive, and I'm hoping this facade of inactivity and my comments about the effort of keeping up with make the wolves not keen on killing someone seemingly not interested - instead going for people who seem to be onto them.

Beyond flawless, this plan.

 

[Tubby23]

My blunder has made things more cloudy as I have quickly realised. I probably should have waited and if I had died with my power I may have been a potential candidate for being revived as compared to being useless now.

 

[Benzine]

Being able to pull out someone who can still kill, who sees stuff in here, would've been great. It's fine though, heaps of great powers to come.

Bad luck.

 

[Tubby23]

Yeah if I'd have had another day or two of safety or be able to be brought back with info it could be a real gamewinner.

What a dolt

 

[Zell 17]

Like I said, there's something about priest that just rots brains. I think successful waters happen like 10% of the time.

 

[Tubby23]

It's the desire to do something helpful that gets you.

 

[Zell 17]

@Ants! welcome to dead land. I’m being nice and letting you come here so you can chat about the game even though the medium is alive. Please don’t use that info elsewhere.

 

[Tubby23]

God I was between Ants and Fool I should have just done Ants like I originally planned, then I'd be alive

 

[Ants!]

@Ants! welcome to dead land. I’m being nice and letting you come here so you can chat about the game even though the medium is alive. Please don’t use that info elsewhere.

Of course, I won’t discuss anything outside of this graveyard.

Just to make sure though: can I give the medium info from here? Not who the wolves are or what their strategy is or anything, but I think you can guess what I have in mind from where I left off that discussion before my death?

 

[Zell 17]

You guys can tell the medium anything you want. Truthful or not. That's part of the game too.

 

[Ants!]

God I was between Ants and Fool I should have just done Ants like I originally planned, then I'd be alive

Lmao dude I had a good laugh about that. Like dude, Tubby came about thiiiis close to using that power on me, because you asked for certainty about me first. Lol

 

[Ants!]

Sorry, didn’t mean to laugh at your blunder or your death, but I was glad to eak out enough time to make it to the beginning of night phase.

 

[Tubby23]

Lmao dude I had a good laugh about that. Like dude, Tubby came about thiiiis close to using that power on me, because you asked for certainty about me first. Lol

My end theory was they had you either way that night so wanted to have two off the board. It was either that or Ryan haha

 

[Tubby23]

Sorry, didn’t mean to laugh at your blunder or your death, but I was glad to eak out enough time to make it to the beginning of night phase.

No sorry is needed. I made a mistake, it's funny

 

[Tubby23]

My theory is the other wolf's are Ryan, Dean and unknown

 

[Ants!]

Hey not bad!

 

[Ants!]

@Ants! welcome to dead land. I’m being nice and letting you come here so you can chat about the game even though the medium is alive. Please don’t use that info elsewhere.

That’s good! We don’t want to be prejudice against people with lupine disabilities. It’s 2023, after all.

 

[Zell 17]

@Fool's Requiem Welcome to dead land

 

[Ants!]

I told them you weren’t the Fool!

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I really didn't like how that round played out. Like yes, @Ants! was a wolf, but damn, the way they went after you and started throwing out the "tell us your role" shit just felt like bullying. I was genuinely concerned that you were going to be soured by how things turned out. Then I stuck my neck out and got the same treatment.

Felt unsportsmanlike.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Also, really fucking dumb of the townies to waste their one use abilities on me knowing full well I wasn't the Fool.

Also, if Ryan is the Doctor, and the wolves realize that, it's not going to go well for them.

 

[Ants!]

Yeah, no way I was going to tell them. I basically said eff you, sweat over it

 

[Fool's Requiem]

You're a good sport. I felt like their actions were bad faith and poor sportsmenship, and I don't stand for that kind of play, so I fought it and it got me killed. They also wasted their abilities, so fuck em. Coleface is gloating outside of the main game despite the game having a "Please do not talk about the game outside of the designated threads" stipulation.

@Tubby23 , sorry you got mixed up in that mess. It's understandable to be confused by all that nonsense.

 

[Ants!]

It’s fine. He and Kut figured out definitively that I wasn’t townie at that point anyway so I did what I could after that. He said it was “for sport”, and I already knew that from his gleeful post after Ryan first asked me to out myself. And then got bummed when I wouldn’t play mouse to his cat and mouse game. Best I could do was leave them nervous about lynching me and getting in one more Seeing for my team before he makes me take a drink. Lol

 

[Ants!]

Coleface is gloating outside of the main game despite the game having a "Please do not talk about the game outside of the designated threads" stipulation.

Sounds like Coleman.

Zell: *gives a rule*
Coleman: well that’s not how I would do it.

 

[Ants!]

Of course, he could eventually be in here reading all this

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Of course, he could eventually be in here reading all this

I ain't scurred.

 

[Tubby23]

You're a good sport. I felt like their actions were bad faith and poor sportsmenship, and I don't stand for that kind of play, so I fought it and it got me killed. They also wasted their abilities, so fuck em. Coleface is gloating outside of the main game despite the game having a "Please do not talk about the game outside of the designated threads" stipulation.

@Tubby23 , sorry you got mixed up in that mess. It's understandable to be confused by all that nonsense.

No need for sorry. It was my own mistake I could have just as easily remained silent and used my role the next day to keep myself alive.

As I said in the game thread I felt the constant back and forth about revealing roles was leading us away from the goal. I don't know if I go as far as bad sportsmanship etc but I'll definitely say it just made it hard to focus on actual good information and I got myself turned around

 

[Ants!]

There’s also a really stupid reason why I ended up getting killed and why it’s my own fault. Kind of a funny story and I’m still slapping myself, but it reveals information that could potentially hurt the wolves so I’ll save it for the end of the game before sharing it with you all.

 

[Benzine]

Wow, I am a medium with doggy heaven too. Can I show them pictures of villagers and wait for their tails to wag?

Gotta claim you're a townie, and don't get caught up in the early posting storm when there's very vocal players.

Ants! had a timer on him anyway, no choice in the matter.

 

[Ants!]

Gotta claim you're a townie, and don't get caught up in the early posting storm when there's very vocal players.

I usually like to talk a moderate amount. Talk a lot? “They are trying really hard! Wolf!” Talk a little bit? “They are being oddly silent and trying to fly under the radar! That is suspicious! Wolf!”

Got to find that middle ground. And then it’s like: “eh… I’m considering so-and-so, but I’m much more suspicious of this other person over here.”

Win!!

 

[Tubby23]

So who do we think Cole and kut kill next?
I'm tipping Ryan

 

[Benzine]

I usually like to talk a moderate amount. Talk a lot? “They are trying really hard! Wolf!” Talk a little bit? “They are being oddly silent and trying to fly under the radar! That is suspicious! Wolf!”

Got to find that middle ground. And then it’s like: “eh… I’m considering so-and-so, but I’m much more suspicious of this other person over here.”

Win!!

Inactive with an excuse. Totally believable that I'm up to nothing when you phrase it with "fuck, you guys talk too much i'm not bother i'm on the otherside of the world". Hopefully with that in mind the wolves wouldn't go for me and if I get pressed by the town for some reason I'll just medium it up openly.

Meanwhile I actually am there. Lurking. Waiting... for nothing in particular.

 

[Zell 17]

Inactive with an excuse. Totally believable that I'm up to nothing when you phrase it with "fuck, you guys talk too much i'm not bother i'm on the otherside of the world". Hopefully with that in mind the wolves wouldn't go for me and if I get pressed by the town for some reason I'll just medium it up openly.

Meanwhile I actually am there. Lurking. Waiting... for nothing in particular.

Sorry, bud. At least you already have access!

 

[Tubby23]

What a bummer

 

[Benzine]

Haha. Classic!

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Huge blow to the Townies because now they can kill the Doctor without concern.

 

[Tubby23]

Shambles

 

[Tubby23]

Huge blow to the Townies because now they can kill the Doctor without concern.

Vash's comment in the thread I think succinctly summarised your desire not to reveal roles.

My working theory is the remaining wolves are Dean, Ryan! and Vash

 

[Ants!]

…are you KIDDING me??

I was removed from the wolf group when I died (or rather, zell started a new one without me), and my last act was to beat Cole to the punch and get one more Seeing in and I hit pay dirt: TOMMY BOY IS THE FOOL. And my last words to the wolves were to let me warn whoever the median is if it looks like Tommy is going to be lynched, that way they don’t blow their cover.

And then by sheer bad luck, they vote the guy who’s the median in the same exact night so I CAN’T DO THAT NOW!! -_______-

 

[Tubby23]

So I assume the other wolves are aware of Tommy's identity?

 

[Ants!]

Yes. Hopefully they can steer the lynching ship away from him without one of them Outing themselves to do it.

 

[Ants!]

And with the only median dead, I guess it’s safe to share whatever now (though i still won’t say who the wolves are in case someone is a dick)

 

[Tubby23]

Plan to kill him to remove that risk long term?

Cole will have Tommy's head soon based on his recent post

 

[Ants!]

Plan to kill him to remove that risk long term?

Cole will have Tommy's head soon based on his recent post

I’ll have to catch up on the current game, but I know he can’t use his potion anymore.

 

[Tubby23]

Yeah I'm expecting they lynch him this day phase or next

 

[Ants!]

Okay so, what happened night/day 1:

I See shortkut and we found out that he’s the detective. Another wolf says oh should we kill him off because that’s a really useful role? I say nah, that role seems pretty limited, let’s try for a better role by targeting somebody else.

So we voted Fools Requiem, and he can’t be killed. So day 1 opens with no deaths. The fact that we couldn’t kill him and that he didn’t want to reveal his role told me he was probably the serial killer before he even outed himself.

And then of course, I should have known after the last wolf game that kut would have some lingering feelings over it and investigate me and Coleman -____-

SO IF I HAD JUST CONSIDERED FOR A SECOND WHO WOULD I EXPECT KUT TO PICK, I COULD STILL BE ALIVE RIGHT NOW

 

[Fool's Requiem]

So we voted Fools Requiem, and he can’t be killed. So day 1 opens with no deaths. The fact that we couldn’t kill him and that he didn’t want to reveal his role told me he was probably the serial killer before he even outed himself.

I think it's funny that I stated that I was going to be dead super early, and you were going to have me offed on the first night. That's hilarious. I don't think I could be mad at that.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

May I ask the reasoning for selecting me to kill on the first night?