[2025] MLB Season Discussion Thread

[The Eye in the Sky!]

Went to the home opener today at Fenway. They scored 13 runs and still needed to bring in the closer!

 

[shortkut]

Went to the home opener today at Fenway. They scored 13 runs and still needed to bring in the closer!


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Why is it so empty?

 

[Jon]

Why is it so empty?

This is what I was going to ask lol. My ASSUMPTION is it's still a couple hours before first pitch... otherwise... the Red Sox have fallen farther than I thought.

I do miss Fenway though. I hope the new Tropicana isn't going to suck.

 

[Acolyte Players]

Looks like that was from before the game started?

 

[Jon]

Do they still take all those ads off before the game? If not, damn that's a lot of ads

 

[The Eye in the Sky!]

Yes it was an hour before the game. It was sold out and completely packed in for the opening festivities.

It was 65 and beautiful out, then today it was 42 and rainy so we have a double header tomorrow now. Gotta love early season weather.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Early season weather and construction are why Cleveland hasn't had a home game yet. Only team to not have played one so far.

Really, if there's any team in the country with and outdoor stadium that needs LESS games in April, it's Cleveland.

April weather in Cleveland is super inconsistent but often cold and wet.

 

[rktaker]

a bit of old news but Blue Jays managed to sign Vlad Guerrero jr. to an extension 14 years $500 mil which seems insane for a player like Vlad. Now the Mets are screwed if Pete opts out at the end of the season because i still think Vlad was their main plan and they didn’t want to re-sign Pete. with how negotiations went last off season I don’t think they’ll re-sign him bow if he does opt out

 

[Jon]

They caught @BigDaddy on the Jumbotron!

 

[rktaker]

so over one month into the season and the Mets are doing really well. they have cooled off a bit but still first place in the East. Soto started off cold and is doing better but is still not at his potential just yet. Alonso and Lindor are doing better than I ever have thought. Lindor isn't starting off slow like he usually does and Alonso is mashing the ball. I just hope the Mets can keep this up

Edit: probably should have made this post after the mets game.....I think I jinxed them

 

[rktaker]

2025 MLB Standings and Records: Regular Season

The official standings for Major League Baseball including division and league standings for regular season, wild card, and playoffs.

www.mlb.com

so through 2 months of the season the Standings a lot of predictability of who's leading the didvisions sure. but there are also some surprises here. The Braves are not really competing for an NL East division as many thought they would, the Cardinals are somehow continuing their Necromancy, the Dodgers are first n the NL West of Course BUT due to injuries to their pitching they are faltering which just goes to show no matter how much money you spend doesn't mean you will always win.

over in the AL some surprises are the Blue Jays, the Guardians after starting off fairly well have struggled mightily now while the Tigers are picking up where they left off last year. in the AL West it's the opposite for the Astros where they didn't start off that great but have since gotten hot. and the Mariners and athletics who started hot have fallen off majorly. the Atheltics have fallen way harder than the Mariners however.

 

[Jon]

Elly de la Cannon

 

[MC74]

Rafael Devers has been traded to the Giants, and the return is just as bad as the Mookie Betts trade, if not worse.

 

[Jon]

Rafael Devers has been traded to the Giants, and the return is just as bad as the Mookie Betts trade, if not worse.

I just can't with this team anymore. It's like they're allergic to talent, winning and smart trades.

Devers is no Betts, I know. But he's a young power hitter and you get the equivalent of skittles and a wet fart for him? I know he's been hurting your locker room, but you could at least have gotten a top talent in return.

 

[Acolyte Players]

The team was just starting to get really entertaining and boom. This sucks.

 

[Jon]

They better try to just tank after this. If they move more talent for any reason this season Breslow should be fired and Henry boycotted until he sells the team to a competent owner. This is a disgrace.

 

[VashTheStampede]

This sucks.

 

[The Eye in the Sky!]

If they move more talent for any reason this season Breslow should be fired and Henry boycotted until he sells the team to a competent owner. This is a disgrace.

This is exactly it. It's a disgrace. The Red Sox brand was royalty in the sport. It's a marquee name with a rich history with the highest ticket prices, a museum of a stadium, a huge following that travels well, and this is how you treat them.

I never do this anymore, but I went on a twitter rant yesterday as it happened. Tagging the Red Sox and telling them all the injustices they have been doing, ruining the franchise. Making it a footnote in Boston's sports landscape. They should be spending at the top of the league, and now when they finally do make a signing that is reasonable by power hitter standards now, they move on from them for nothing. I don't see this year's team going anywhere so if you told me they traded him for two or three high level prospects to build a bigger young core (with all the complaining he did this spring) I could be talked into it. But they got less than nothing out of this. They sold his contract is all they did.

I was wearing my brand new green monster RAFAEL DEVERS shirt yesterday for the first time matching my daughter's Devers shirt as well! The last Red Sox shirt I bought for my kid? Mookie Betts. Can they make a John Henry and Tom Werner shirt next? I'll buy everyone one a shirt if it means booting these cheap owners out of town.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I know as a Giants fan I'm probably the last person a Sox fan wants to hear from (except maybe the Boston front office) but shit like this is one of the worst parts of sports.

I've gone through this several times as a fan of teams in other sports but usually that has to do with a superstar wanting to leave a small market to go to fuckin LA. And in those situations I can get used to it because at its core its a human being deciding where they want to work, which morally I can't disagree with.

But I dont understand this move at fuckin ALL. I kinda understand getting off of Devers after poisoning the relationship and I honestly think Harrison is going to eventually be a GREAT pitcher, possibly an ace. But thats just a MAYBE. It just feels like a money move and very cynical.

 

[Jon]

This is exactly it. It's a disgrace. The Red Sox brand was royalty in the sport. It's a marquee name with a rich history with the highest ticket prices, a museum of a stadium, a huge following that travels well, and this is how you treat them.

I never do this anymore, but I went on a twitter rant yesterday as it happened. Tagging the Red Sox and telling them all the injustices they have been doing, ruining the franchise. Making it a footnote in Boston's sports landscape. They should be spending at the top of the league, and now when they finally do make a signing that is reasonable by power hitter standards now, they move on from them for nothing. I don't see this year's team going anywhere so if you told me they traded him for two or three high level prospects to build a bigger young core (with all the complaining he did this spring) I could be talked into it. But they got less than nothing out of this. They sold his contract is all they did.

I was wearing my brand new green monster RAFAEL DEVERS shirt yesterday for the first time matching my daughter's Devers shirt as well! The last Red Sox shirt I bought for my kid? Mookie Betts. Can they make a John Henry and Tom Werner shirt next? I'll buy everyone one a shirt if it means booting these cheap owners out of town.

I stopped following the team when they signed David Price. Then I moved to Florida and stopped really following baseball altogether.

I used to know every player in the MLB, AAA and AA. Collected cards, separated by teams, looked forward to the trade deadline just to move them around. Even filled out my own score card and "announced" Sox games on mute when I was younger. I lived and breathed the game.

The 2004 World Series win was my magnus opus internally. What this ownership has done since has been criminal. I don't care if they get into other dumb ventures like buying ManU or whatever other shit, but if you're going to so clearly use this team as nothing more than your guaranteed cash cow then fuck you and the horse you rode in on. You haven't put a good team on the field in years at this point (2021 was a fluke and we all know it), and you keep milling the nostalgia of Fenway and the heart of the die hard Sox fans. You don't care about the team, it's storied history and the competitive fire that people have. You used the desire of player to help be the ones to "break the curse." Then you did you got rid of the mastermind that did it (Theo) and relied heavily on maintaining the "good ol' vibes."

Instead of building INTO the team, you force your GM into staying under the luxury tax, refuse to sign true big names as a result, and when you develop home grown talent like Bogaerts, Betts and Devers, you decide "fuck you we don't need you" and either let them walk in free agency or trade them FOR LITERALLY NOTHING. I know Devers was a head case, and refusing to switch positions pissed me off too (stop being entitled), but he's still a power bat that carried your lineup.

And you traded him for a 28 year old failed reliever, turned failed starter, turned back into a reliever with an ERA of almost 5... a 23 year old no name that "used to be a top prospect" but hasn't done a single thing of note... a 22 year old AA outfielder that's the THIRD best player in the Giants farm... and a person I can only channel my inner Snoop and say "WHO!?"

For your 200 million superstar that you JUST extended with a 10 year contract. You couldn't even muster the top player in their farm and a top of the rotation young arm. You just gave him away.

In a worse trade than Mookie... which I thought was hard to do.

Fuck this ownership. Not the team. I still love the Red Sox. But fuck this ownership. Sell the team and fucking leave.

 

[rktaker]

They better try to just tank after this. If they move more talent for any reason this season Breslow should be fired and Henry boycotted until he sells the team to a competent owner. This is a disgrace.

it’s funny cause they’re only a .5 game back of the wild card so there is a chance that they still try to compete. obviously there’s still a month before the deadline and things could change but they might not blow it up

 

[Jon]

I know as a Giants fan I'm probably the last person a Sox fan wants to hear from (except maybe the Boston front office) but shit like this is one of the worst parts of sports.

I've gone through this several times as a fan of teams in other sports but usually that has to do with a superstar wanting to leave a small market to go to fuckin LA. And in those situations I can get used to it because at its core its a human being deciding where they want to work, which morally I can't disagree with.

But I dont understand this move at fuckin ALL. I kinda understand getting off of Devers after poisoning the relationship and I honestly think Harrison is going to eventually be a GREAT pitcher, possibly an ace. But thats just a MAYBE. It just feels like a money move and very cynical.

Nah man, I am happy the Giants got a good player for next to nothing. I would want the Sox to do the same. But I don't see it with Harrison. I watched some film of him after the trade to see on this guy. Typically I'm a fairly decent "scout" on players, or at least I was 15 years ago. But I just don't see it with him. His mechanics are flawed and at 23 it may too late. I can't see him more than as a 3-4 in the rotation.

WHICH IS FINE if you got SF TOP prospect in addition to him. Him as the focal point of the trade is garbage. And an OF that isn't likely to amount to anything great too as the only other useful part...?

I don't think this is money. I think it's moving a toxic player. The refusal to move positions then openly trashing the team, I get it. But his on field value is MUCH more than they got.

 

[Jon]

it’s funny cause they’re only a .5 game back of the wild card so there is a chance that they still try to compete. obviously there’s still a month before the deadline and things could change but they might not blow it up

They just traded their best player, Bregman and Casias are both hurt and the rotation is trash outside Crochet (who I don't see what they see in either if I'm being honest). I don't want them added. Trade others, get better assets and sell the team to an ownership that'll do something with it.

But this is money to them. So they will do whatever keeps people spending on the team.

 

[rktaker]

They just traded their best player, Bregman and Casias are both hurt and the rotation is trash outside Crochet (who I don't see what they see in either if I'm being honest). I don't want them added. Trade others, get better assets and sell the team to an ownership that'll do something with it.

But this is money to them. So they will do whatever keeps people spending on the team.

i get that but crazier things have happened. just last year with the Tigers. they were awful Javier Baez (who was not good) got hurt, the tigers sold at the deadline, then made a miracle run and made the playoffs. I know this is not the same situation but Baseball can be extremely random at times. i think what the red sox will do will depend on how they play for this next month

 

[VashTheStampede]

Nah man, I am happy the Giants got a good player for next to nothing. I would want the Sox to do the same. But I don't see it with Harrison. I watched some film of him after the trade to see on this guy. Typically I'm a fairly decent "scout" on players, or at least I was 15 years ago. But I just don't see it with him. His mechanics are flawed and at 23 it may too late. I can't see him more than as a 3-4 in the rotation.

And you're more likely to be right.

I'm just having flashbacks to trading young Zack Wheeler for Carlos Beltran and I think more highly of Kyle now than I did Zack then.

 

[Jon]

i get that but crazier things have happened. just last year with the Tigers. they were awful Javier Baez (who was not good) got hurt, the tigers sold at the deadline, then made a miracle run and made the playoffs. I know this is not the same situation but Baseball can be extremely random at times. i think what the red sox will do will depend on how they play for this next month

I get it. And Devers was being toxic, so maybe it's addition by subtraction. But I'd feel more apt to try it if Casas, Bregman and Yoshida weren't hurt. Story is also a hangnail away from an IL stint too. And the only one coming back MAY be Bregman.

Who, I might add, has a contract out after this year with that 3 year deal he signed. The Sox rotation isn't the '98 Braves and the bullpen isn't the '98 Yankees. This lineup is below average now. They won't make a push against the Astros, Tigers or Yankees. And certainly wouldn't compete against the Mets, Cubs or Dodgers.

 

[Jon]

Oh, and i'll add that they prospects aren't fairing much better. Anthony has been abysmal at the plate and isn't getting every day play, Durran has been more of what I thought he was than the over performance last season. Campbell is barely at the Mendoza line. Mayer is the same. Their next most ready player is another OF that will mostly block the one the Sox just got for Devers. So... yeah, I stand by tank this season.

 

[rktaker]

Oh, and i'll add that they prospects aren't fairing much better. Anthony has been abysmal at the plate and isn't getting every day play, Durran has been more of what I thought he was than the over performance last season. Campbell is barely at the Mendoza line. Mayer is the same. Their next most ready player is another OF that will mostly block the one the Sox just got for Devers. So... yeah, I stand by tank this season.

here's the other thing too and this just stems from me not really knowing the Red Sox roster but who do they have to trade? they could trade Story sure but who else. they're not gonna trade Crochet or Bregman. Crochet they just got this season to a decent sized contract and Bregman is the reason why this Devers situation started so it would be odd to trade him now. and Casas they're not gonna trade either so idk who they could trade away

 

[shortkut]

I’m not losing any sleep over the Red Sox making dumb decisions

 

[Jon]

here's the other thing too and this just stems from me not really knowing the Red Sox roster but who do they have to trade? they could trade Story sure but who else. they're not gonna trade Crochet or Bregman. Crochet they just got this season to a decent sized contract and Bregman is the reason why this Devers situation started so it would be odd to trade him now. and Casas they're not gonna trade either so idk who they could trade away

They don't have anyone worth a LOT, no. But they have depth, particularly in the bullpen that would be worth it to contenders. That's all I mean. Durran is a fine LF, but he's worth something too.

I'd rather they keep Durran, SIGN BREGMAN FFS because if you lose him because he opts out you're even bigger morons, and utilize a younger core moving forward with Durran, Mayer, Anthony Bregman and Crochet (and Harrison... I GUESS).

But Story, the relievers (Chapman, Hendricks, Bello) and some of the back end rotation (like Giolito and Bueler), perhaps Yoshida if he comes back hitting and Refsnyder. They have some assets that can get them potential prospects. Nothing great, but something. Let the kids play every day and try to compete next season.

 

[Jon]

I’m not losing any sleep over the Red Sox making dumb decisions

2004

 

[VashTheStampede]

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It's all good guys, the Giants got fleeced in the deal

 

[The Eye in the Sky!]

I guess I'll wear my Devers shirt to SF this year. I have tickets for the August 11th game against the Padres so I can see him and Xander!

 

[Acolyte Players]

I last shirt I got with a name on it for the Sox was actually Pedroia. Not sure when I'll invest in another one to be honest.

 

[The Eye in the Sky!]

Mine doesn't have a name on it so it could be Buchholz or Drew Bledsoe.

 

[shortkut]

2004

Keeping holding on to the one good memory in your life

 

[rktaker]

Keeping holding on to the one good memory in your life

i mean they did win in 07, and 13, 18. more times than the Yankees in this century

 

[shortkut]

i mean they did win in 07, and 13, 18. more times than the Yankees in this century

Yeah but those other ones don’t mean as much to Red Sox fans. Also I’ve still seen more Yankee victories in my lifetime than they have seen from the Red Sox. I’m more upset at losing in 2001 than to the Sox.

The worst part about losing to the Sox is the fact that their fans were hypocritical about players on their team at the time using steroids but are quick point it out for other teams

 

[Jon]

Keeping holding on to the one good memory in your life

i mean they did win in 07, and 13, 18. more times than the Yankees in this century

This

Yeah but those other ones don’t mean as much to Red Sox fans. Also I’ve still seen more Yankee victories in my lifetime than they have seen from the Red Sox. I’m more upset at losing in 2001 than to the Sox.

The worst part about losing to the Sox is the fact that their fans were hypocritical about players on their team at the time using steroids but are quick point it out for other teams

But we also have the Bruins, Celtics and Patriots. Boston is the winningest sports city across the 4 major sports that only has ONE team per city. New York can only win more because they have two teams in every sport.

 

[shortkut]

But we also have the Bruins, Celtics and Patriots. Boston is the winningest sports city across the 4 major sports that only has ONE team per city. New York can only win more because they have two teams in every sport.

Per capita, Boston has more teams than NYC

The New York metropolitan area has a significantly larger population than the Boston metropolitan area. New York's metro area has a population of nearly 20 million, while Boston's metro area has roughly 4.8 million. New York City itself is also much larger than Boston, with a population of over 8 million compared to Boston's roughly 694,000

 

[Acolyte Players]

Per capita, Boston has more teams than NYC

The New York metropolitan area has a significantly larger population than the Boston metropolitan area. New York's metro area has a population of nearly 20 million, while Boston's metro area has roughly 4.8 million. New York City itself is also much larger than Boston, with a population of over 8 million compared to Boston's roughly 694,000

Cool, so Boston has a lot more championships per capital then

 

[shortkut]

Cool, so Boston has a lot more championships per capital then

Yes, because they have more teams per capita

 

[Acolyte Players]

Yes, because they have more teams per capita

Right. So the original point stands and this is a mostly meaningless conversation.

 

[shortkut]

Right. So the original point stands and this is a mostly meaningless conversation.

 

[Acolyte Players]

I mean you just provided context as to why there are more teams in New York and changed which specific way to look at it that ended to not changing the results.

So it was a bad word problem.

 

[shortkut]

I mean you just provided context as to why there are more teams in New York and changed which specific way to look at it that ended to not changing the results.

So it was a bad word problem.

I blame Jon

 

[Jon]

I blame Jon

Yeah, most people blame me for shit. I've been blamed for WW1 before.

At this point, I don't even bat an eye anymore. It's easy to gaslight me into thinking I did something wrong. I'm married and a man after all.

 

[Acolyte Players]

Yeah, most people blame me for shit. I've been blamed for WW1 before.

At this point, I don't even bat an eye anymore. It's easy to gaslight me into thinking I did something wrong. I'm married and a man after all.

WereWolf 1.

Always a wolf. Checks out.

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[Acolyte Players]