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MC74 said:
Toronto getting penalized quite a bit here.
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First time? No son, we've been to this dance before.
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I meant specifically with the panthers in the playoffs, but… you’re a Toronto fan. Pain is in your blood with that team. 😞

At least they didn’t get screwed out of the number 5 pick by the islanders and mammoth at the draft lottery.
 
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Jon said:
I meant specifically with the panthers in the playoffs, but… you’re a Toronto fan. Pain is in your blood with that team. 😞

At least they didn’t get screwed out of the number 5 pick by the islanders and mammoth at the draft lottery.
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Doesn't help the Leafs are getting hemmed in by the Panthers the entire game. The Panthers by far are the better team tonight and it shows.

And yeah, not a fan of the Isles winning the #1 pick.
 
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at least it wasn’t a suspension, still stupid though and it’s not bettman making the decision it’s the department of player safety. who’s the head of that again? oh yeah a former goon who also just happened to be a Florida Panther
 
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at least it wasn’t a suspension, still stupid though and it’s not bettman making the decision it’s the department of player safety. who’s the head of that again? oh yeah a former goon who also just happened to be a Florida Panther
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George Parros spent most of his career with the Ducks and was only with the Panthers for less than half a season. However, the current assistant GM of the Panthers has some stroke. He's the son of the director of Hockey Operations, Colin Campbell.
 
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rktaker said:
at least it wasn’t a suspension, still stupid though and it’s not bettman making the decision it’s the department of player safety. who’s the head of that again? oh yeah a former goon who also just happened to be a Florida Panther
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If you don’t think Bettman has a say in discipline I don’t know what to say lol
 
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Alright, I'm going to post a rant about the events that transpired at the end of the game as well as the comments made by the Panthers owner earlier today.

First, I want to address the "USA" chants at the end of the game, because that was just bizarre. Like, how fucking stupid do you have to be to comprehend the majority of the team isn't even comprised of American players? Second, the captain of the opposing team is an AMERICAN. They don't even realize how the NHL works. This isn't the World Cup or the Olympics. This is a domestic league FFS. Chanting that in a competition that has no bearing on national pride is so fucking stupid, it's unreal.

And now onto what the owner said, because that just opens up another can of worms. With everything that's going on, the NHL is already having trouble trying to navigate the US/Canada situation. The league is pretty integrated internationally with most players/teams not commenting on major situations for a reason. Even the Russia situation is not commented on often so as to not cause friction and really jeopardize things. The Panthers straight up have Canadian players on that team. Talk about making it awkward for them. The comment about Canada being the 51st state, in addition to the stuff said in regards to the Israel/Palestine conflict is going to be problematic for the league. When you have an owner of a professional sports team making such gross comments publicly, it's a bad look for the organization, the league, and the sport as a whole.
 
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The thing is, stuff like that Domi hit happen specifically because the NHL refuses to do anything about the dirty shit the Panthers do.

Watching Domis hit back a million times, it was not clean but also wasn’t as bad as everyone is making it out to be. It was deliberate and dangerous but he used his shoulder and more pushed, not a full speed check.

But if the NHL punished the Panthers at an equivalent rate, players wouldn’t feel compelled to take matters into their own hands. And what about Tkachuck saying to Nylander “I’m going after you next game” huh? Doing nothing about a threat because it’s the Panthers? If Tkachuck lays a finger on Nylander, he should be suspended for the playoffs. But he won’t. And then you have the audacity to punish Domi?

It’s like kicking a dog and the owner being fined for the dog bruising the attacker’s foot.
 
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The thing is, stuff like that Domi hit happen specifically because the NHL refuses to do anything about the dirty shit the Panthers do.

Watching Domis hit back a million times, it was not clean but also wasn’t as bad as everyone is making it out to be. It was deliberate and dangerous but he used his shoulder and more pushed, not a full speed check.

But if the NHL punished the Panthers at an equivalent rate, players wouldn’t feel compelled to take matters into their own hands. And what about Tkachuck saying to Nylander “I’m going after you next game” huh? Doing nothing about a threat because it’s the Panthers? If Tkachuck lays a finger on Nylander, he should be suspended for the playoffs. But he won’t. And then you have the audacity to punish Domi?

It’s like kicking a dog and the owner being fined for the dog bruising the attacker’s foot.
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The Leafs have been giving it to the Panthers just as much shit they've taken from them. Can you really blame them? No, not if the NHL isn't going to do squat about the Panthers gooning it up. It comes to a point where you have no choice but to take matters into your own hands. Stolarz was taken out by Bennett, Tanev is being specifically targeted because of his injury history (in one game, he took a shot in the back of the neck), and you have the Panthers playing a dirty game overall. You can't expect the opposition to take that without any response back.

Eventually, something's got to give. If the NHL keeps going down this path, you're going to see more Matt Cooke types around the league. Players will be more inclined to take liberties with the rules if the league isn't going to enforce them properly.
 
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The Leafs have been giving it to the Panthers just as much shit they've taken from them. Can you really blame them? No, not if the NHL isn't going to do squat about the Panthers gooning it up. It comes to a point where you have no choice but to take matters into your own hands. Stolarz was taken out by Bennett, Tanev is being specifically targeted because of his injury history (in one game, he took a shot in the back of the neck), and you have the Panthers playing a dirty game overall. You can't expect the opposition to take that without any response back.

Eventually, something's got to give. If the NHL keeps going down this path, you're going to see more Matt Cooke types around the league. Players will be more inclined to take liberties with the rules if the league isn't going to enforce them properly.
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This was exactly my point, yes. At some point you're going to have teams saying "well if they're just going to get away with it..." and they are going to bring in random goons with no hockey skill to legit target and "eliminate" other teams star players. Those players will be sacrificial lambs meant to be fined and suspended with impunity because teams like the Panthers never get in trouble.

This is a demon of Bettman's own making because his push to have hockey in the south. In the end, I don't care WHERE you want to put hockey teams. I love the sport. But when you purposely favor a team to make your point, then you're doing a disservice to the league, the teams, the fans... everyone. Let's not forget, too, that it was only recently hockey is becoming recognized again in the US. They didn't have the notoriety or TV deals of NBA, NFL or MLB. ESPN stopped carrying NHL games for YEARS. And THIS is what you want to promote the NHL as now? Elite favoritism of a deep south team that was garbage from its inception?

Now that I think about it, this was 100% purposeful. The rise of the Panthers directly coincides with the NHL coming back to ESPN and getting more national attention. I fucking hate the man and wish he'd leave the NHL, but damned if Bettman isn't savvy enough to manipulate this.
 
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