FQ Wolf GWF Wolf Vol. 1 Discussion Thread: WOLVES WIN

[canadaguy]

Well, too little too late.

I think it eventually clicked that Cole was just a little too agreeable with most of my assessments. You bamboozled me sir

 

[Cole]

Well, too little too late.

I think it eventually clicked that Cole was just a little too agreeable with most of my assessments. You bamboozled me sir

so early on in the game, I forget what you said, but you said something to shortkut and I posted in our dm "canadaguy is an ally" intending to save you to the end to help us and the game.

but I ended up being so worried that you knew it was me and we're waiting for the right moment to strike I couldn't even pull the trigger on you on the last day.

 

[Cole]

Dude, wolves killing a wolf would've been amazing. I wish it would've happened. Also would've been hilarious if FQ had actually just made a no wolves game and fucked with us the entire time, though I could see people getting salty about something like that.

yeah if he didn't post the roles in the first post. I wanted to have them kill me just to have no idea a wolf died at night. and they'd keep thinking there were 3. so as long as ants and fool could divert to "anyone else" they were golden.

but he posted the roles in the first post so there was no way to make it work.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Well I had Cole and Fool's pegged (see my votes) but didn't really suspect Ants until the very end.

gg wolves

 

[Cole]

Well I had Cole and Fool's pegged (see my votes) but didn't really suspect Ants until the very end.

gg wolves

it was vashs idea for us to kill him that night. we were chatting about the game very loosely after what happened that day phase, and he was like "the wolves would be stupid to kill me bow"

I pretty much immediately messaged the group and was like "hey, wanna kill Vash? it's such a waste it'll be fun"

 

[VashTheStampede]

So I was the worst townie but the best wolf basically

 

[Fool's Requiem]

but I don't even remember how FR played these games

TBF, I've only played twice here.

First time I made it to the end but got tricked by the remaining wolf to vote for the other townie and then the very next game I was either lynced day one or wolf food on the first night.

 

[shortkut]

incorrect #1 and I have the DMs to prove it. in every wolf game I've ever played as wolf. I always strive to keep the best players alive, the ones that suspect me the most. that's you. I would have left you alive until the end regardless.

see end of post:

I appreciate the credit, but it was all of us. you flew entirely undetected the entire game, and that alone is huge. if I was too obvious and ants got lynched along the way, your undetection still gets us the win. you were a contributor to the plan more than ants was.

incorrect #2: day 1 voting at random is the stupidest fucking play you can make as a civilian. it literally only makes sense as a wolf. you are killing completely at random with a fraction of a chance to be right. I would've had the same exact day with you if we were both civis.

you really forget other games with me don't you? my whole gimmick was overwhelming numbers of "protest".

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this is so many people saying they knew all along I was a wolf but didn't once actually bring it up enough or try to get me lynched. 2 throw away votes. one by flame in self defense, and the other one I forget who but admitted it was a vote to "not influence the vote".

lots of people with some solid hindsight here.

It’s a good thing for me I don’t remember the old wolf games too much. I suspected you because you weren’t being yourself and that was suspicious

 

[VashTheStampede]

Yeah, super tentative Cole was a massive red flag and I'm honestly kind of annoyed no one else called him out on it lol

 

[VashTheStampede]

 

[shortkut]

Yeah, super tentative Cole was a massive red flag and I'm honestly kind of annoyed no one else called him out on it lol

In hindsight, I should have tried to start a bandwagon against him. I just assumed he was the leader and it would be easier to find the other wolves if he was alive and I watched who interacted with him

 

[Ants!]

So I was right to suspect him all along.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

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That movie could have been good if they had filmed the whole thing.

 

[Ants!]

Glad I didn’t do anything too stupid when I was inebriated, like message the wolves in the game thread itself.

 

[Cole]

It’s a good thing for me I don’t remember the old wolf games too much. I suspected you because you weren’t being yourself and that was suspicious

I don't know which games you and vash are remembering, but I 100% would have played this game almost identically, but with less bullshit filtered through my suspicions.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I'm not remembering any games. I have no memory of old games lol

 

[Cole]

I'm not remembering any games. I have no memory of old games lol

then what do you MEAN not acting like myself!

 

[VashTheStampede]

You as a person in decision-making situations as recalled by my admittedly fuzzy memory and my current opinion of you as a sharp-minded decisive leader.

Not having much to go on from past games and not feeling like a very strong player even then, that leaves me with one sure-fire strategy: play the man, not the cards.

 

[Cole]

You as a person in decision-making situations as recalled by my admittedly fuzzy memory and my current opinion of you as a sharp-minded decisive leader.

Not having much to go on from past games and not feeling like a very strong player even then, that leaves me with one sure-fire strategy: play the man, not the cards.

oh Vash. I know as one of the few people that have remained in close contact with me, you know two things for sure.

one: I am a moron.

two: I am so far from decisive in every day life. lol

 

[VashTheStampede]

Not a moron, an idiot savant

 

[Cole]

Not a moron, an idiot savant

...oh.

oh damn Vash, I accidentally dropped my extra Rider Back into my shredder. rats.

 

[shortkut]

You as a person in decision-making situations as recalled by my admittedly fuzzy memory and my current opinion of you as a sharp-minded decisive leader.

Not having much to go on from past games and not feeling like a very strong player even then, that leaves me with one sure-fire strategy: play the man, not the cards.

@Cole you do not often portray yourself as not knowing what is going on. You normally present yourself with an air of confidence. Regardless of how you think you normally act, your theatrics in this game were obviously that and we saw through it.

 

[Major Isoor]

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this is so many people saying they knew all along I was a wolf but didn't once actually bring it up enough or try to get me lynched. 2 throw away votes. one by flame in self defense, and the other one I forget who but admitted it was a vote to "not influence the vote".

lots of people with some solid hindsight here.

Nahhh, I don't wanna say too much here for my own benefit, but I do always recall that you tend to shift your playstyle a little when you're a wolf, which can be noticable. I wasn't sure about the third wolf though, which is what I was trying/failing to sus out. I can't speak for the others, but I figured going for you first wouldn't have gone well as you're good at using many_words.txt to get enough clout for undecided people to vote with you against opponents. Which is why I was angling for Ants! earlier on, before being absent for a day and subsequently dying. (Since if Ants! could be lynched, hopefully then I could have a little more perceived legitimacy behind me, before voting for you. Then... hopefully luck out on #3 haha)

Don't ask me how I remember peoples' playstyles from a decade ago though, because I've got no idea! Either way, it doesn't change the fact that it was a solid win for you guys

 

[Cole]

@Cole you do not often portray yourself as not knowing what is going on. You normally present yourself with an air of confidence. Regardless of how you think you normally act, your theatrics in this game were obviously that and we saw through it.

and all I'm saying is this is so much "knowing I was right" for no one voting for me.

 

[shortkut]

and all I'm saying is this is so much "knowing I was right" for no one voting for me.

I was hoping to use you as a tool to determine the other wolves. It’s how I surmised @Ants! was a wolf around the time I was killed. I voted Jawneh because I also thought he was a wolf

 

[canadaguy]

and all I'm saying is this is so much "knowing I was right" for no one voting for me.

Hey I voted for you!

 

[Cole]

I was hoping to use you as a tool to determine the other wolves. It’s how I surmised @Ants! was a wolf around the time I was killed. I voted Jawneh because I also thought he was a wolf

but that's my point. it's so easy to say after the fact that people "knew for sure" but never pushed for it at all. all I ever got was "that's something Cole could have done" and part of THAT was me having ants specifically name me

 

[Cole]

Hey I voted for you!

AND you admitted I pulled one over on you!

 

[Major Isoor]

but that's my point. it's so easy to say after the fact that people "knew for sure" but never pushed for it at all. all I ever got was "that's something Cole could have done" and part of THAT was me having ants specifically name me

Eh, it's just that you tend to have a very particular playstyle - especially when you've got something to hide, I find. Also, as I said earlier, you're good at writing essays on Why Everyone Should Vote For My Target, which undecided townies seem to easily get behind - which is a skill, to be sure.
I'm not trying to say that kut or I were all-knowing during the game thanks to post-game hindsight (especially me, as FR slipped by me, that's for sure) but there's nothing wrong with leaving you for later in order to sus out the others before making public accusations, IMO.

 

[shortkut]

but that's my point. it's so easy to say after the fact that people "knew for sure" but never pushed for it at all. all I ever got was "that's something Cole could have done" and part of THAT was me having ants specifically name me

I called it over a week ago

 

[Cole]

Eh, it's just that you tend to have a very particular playstyle - especially when you've got something to hide, I find. Also, as I said earlier, you're good at writing essays on Why Everyone Should Vote For My Target, which undecided townies seem to easily get behind - which is a skill, to be sure.
I'm not trying to say that kut or I were all-knowing during the game thanks to post-game hindsight (especially me, as FR slipped by me, that's for sure) but there's nothing wrong with leaving you for later in order to sus out the others before making public accusations, IMO.

i disagree.

as a wolf, I'll leave good civis all day to mess with the game. as a civi, if I fully believe someone is a wolf and especially if they are the level of shortkut, or Zell or others, and they are likely not just a wolf but the ring leader?

oh 100% I'm getting them lynched asap. the rest of the group falls apart after that and are much easier to suss out.

I called it over a week ago View attachment 969

but suspicion without action means nothing. no one had substantial evidence on *ANYONE* all game long.

And considering how conflicted everyone was, all you did by "perserving me" and "figuring out who was with me" was get other members of the town lynched. Including yourself.

 

[shortkut]

And considering how conflicted everyone was, all you did by "perserving me" and "figuring out who was with me" was get other members of the town lynched. Including yourself.

I did figure out ants as a wolf. Had I not died, I would have gone after both of you after jawneh

 

[VashTheStampede]

and all I'm saying is this is so much "knowing I was right" for no one voting for me.

 

[Cole]

I did figure out ants as a wolf. Had I not died, I would have gone after both of you after jawneh

but again, its so easy to *say* that. you got yourself lynched when all you needed to do was tell everyone this "confirmation" of who was who. or post that suspect list screenshot. you're gonna die, what do you have to lose? Out me.

Again, I GET every person in the thread thinking I was suspicious, thats the idea. but anyone that says they "knew" and did nothing about it is... weird

 

[shortkut]

but again, its so easy to *say* that. you got yourself lynched when all you needed to do was tell everyone this "confirmation" of who was who. or post that suspect list screenshot. you're gonna die, what do you have to lose? Out me.

Again, I GET every person in the thread thinking I was suspicious, thats the idea. but anyone that says they "knew" and did nothing about it is... weird

The townies voted to kill me, they deserve what they got. My screenshot was taken after I died for bragging rights if I was correct

 

[Ants!]

All you have to do is suspect EVERYBODY, then after the game you can say you knew all along

 

[Ants!]

The townies voted to kill me, they deserve what they got. My screenshot was taken after I died for bragging rights if I was correct

Uh, excuse me, townies and wolves voted to get you lynched

 

[Major Isoor]

All you have to do is suspect EVERYBODY, then after the game you can say you knew all along

Heyyy, now THERE'S an idea! Maybe PM each participant saying you suspect another player. So at the end you can pull out the PM screens as "proof", too!

 

[shortkut]

Uh, excuse me, townies and wolves voted to get you lynched

And I tried to get you killed, let’s call it even

 

[Ants!]

As long as I get credit.

 

[Ants!]

Zells game I’m going to vote for shortkut before he votes for me.

 

[shortkut]

Zells game I’m going to vote for shortkut before he votes for me.

Not if I see the thread open before you

 

[Cole]

The townies voted to kill me, they deserve what they got. My screenshot was taken after I died for bragging rights if I was correct

they voted to kill you because you *made yourself look guilty*

I am 100%, no doubt in my mind, of the opinion that a day 1 random lynch is one of the stupidest things you can do.

Yeah, if you get lucky, its a lot easier of a road. But odds are you're NOT going to get lucky, and then all you've done is make the odds easier for the wolves to finish it strong.

not to mention, day one voting, and getting a civi, is probably going to make the WRONG people look like wolves. which is just again another easier road.

day 1 in particular, almost every single word I said was 100% truth.

 

[VashTheStampede]

I am of the opinion that not killing someone day 1 is boring.

Except for the person killed.

That SUUUUUCKS.

Unless they deserved it.

 

[Kat]

I wanted the first game back to be fun for spectators. and according to @A Loo , it was.

It was a blast to watch!

 

[Cole]

It was a blast to watch!

honestly i'm glad. I'll happily post some of the logs from the DM with @Ants! and @Fool's Requiem if neither of them object.

but i constantly kept saying "I don't care if this gets me lynched, I just want this game to be fun for people to watch for the first one back"

I kept warning both of them, "if it looks like this isn't going my way *bury me*".

Fool was a trooper, he didnt like some of my ideas, thought they were too risky, he just wanted to win the game, but he saw the chaos the night 1 no kill caused, and agreed to keep giving my plan a shot.

I kept watchign the "who read this thread" list grow, and just hoped that people were enjoying it.

 

[Ants!]

Yeah you can share whatever.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

dewit

 

[Cole]

a few samples, I'm saving it for primarily things I said, Ants and Fool can show some of their own if they want.

this was re: shortkut


I said this after canadaguy was going after shortkut for the day 1 vote, and later explained that I wanted to use it to set up canadaguy later in the game

the plan to abstain is formed


(above; see? I really DDID have no idea what was going to ha ppen, my indecisiveness in the thread was genuine, it was just about the wolf plan, not who to lynch.)


the day 2/night 2 plan



re: Vash votint for me and if it mattered to this idea





re figuring out who to kill, we had settled on killing someone that wasnt making waves at all, someone with fairly low activity




my goal this entire game was just to sew chaos and make it exciting as a spectator. I left off a lot of what Ants and Fool said, not because either of them said anything bad, they didn't, but I was kind of "ring mastering" a little bit. if they think i left something out, they can add it on as always

 

[canadaguy]

Now i remember why I hate you lol