Zell Wolf Discussion Thread Game 5

[canadaguy]

If I was Tommy I’d jailkill Vash tonight

Hahaha yeah I would totally sell him out hard.

 

[canadaguy]

And send him the message "this is what happens when you sleep with wolves"

 

[Smacktard]

RK should've killed someone.

I explained my logic earlier. I didn't night 0 because I didn't want to target wolves. I tried to night 1 but was intercepted. I didn't night 2 because Tubby being RK was my alibi.

Which reminds me @Tommy Boy yeah my b I did try to target you night 1, I forgot lol

 

[Smacktard]

If I was Tommy I’d jailkill Vash tonight

I wanted to say it when they were still in the thread but didn't want to make Vash second guess himself

 

[Benzine]

I wanted to say it when they were still in the thread but didn't want to make Vash second guess himself

I presented myself as an option, for some reason he didn't seem to want it...

 

[Zell 17]

Yeah Tommy is jailkilling Christina. Whoops.

 

[Zell 17]

I still would have done Vash for the lolz

 

[Smacktard]

Yeah Tommy is jailkilling Christina. Whoops.

@Tommy Boy ur doin it wrong (sorta)

 

[canadaguy]

Yeah Tommy is jailkilling Christina. Whoops.

Same difference. Although this way we can talk shit to vash knowing what's coming

 

[Ants!]

I can’t help but feel annoyed at this whole situation with the medium and a wolf being married and coupled by cupid. Sounds cute when you say it I guess lol

 

[Zell 17]

Well the one issue is that it’s a really obvious coupling, right? Hard to have subterfuge

 

[canadaguy]

@Zell 17 with the randomize number kills on the first night, is there a scenario where one of the couple kills there partner (and themselves) without knowing it?

 

[Zell 17]

I had the cupid give me backup players in case one of their selected died. Day 1 will always start with a couple.

 

[Smacktard]

Watching the game thread right now giving me some serious schadenfreude.

 

[canadaguy]

I had the cupid give me backup players in case one of their selected died. Day 1 will always start with a couple.

Sounds good. My brain likes to try to figure out weird edge cases but you've thought ahead of me

 

[Zell 17]

Sounds good. My brain likes to try to figure out weird edge cases but you've thought ahead of me

The backup was shortkut and Ants!

 

[canadaguy]

The backup was shortkut and Ants!

I'm not shocked

 

[canadaguy]

What if also one of the backups dies?

Is there a backup backup?

 

[Zell 17]

What if also one of the backups dies?

Is there a backup backup?

Then I’d go random number

 

[Zell 17]

So, Tommy has gone back to jailing shortkut which is actually a big mistake. Jawneh's logic is that the game is hopeless after the wolf kill, because there will be

5 town
1 wolf.

But in actuality, there will be

3 town
3 couple-aligned players

They can tie votes and then the last wolf can whittle down the remaining at night. So maybe there is still some juice here.

 

[canadaguy]

 

[Fool's Requiem]

this game has become a shitshow and I'm not even involved

 

[Zell 17]

Yeah shortkut figured it out and submarined it. They're back to killing Christina.

 

[canadaguy]

Tommy Boy needs to stop fucking around and become Tommy Man

 

[Ants!]

Well the one issue is that it’s a really obvious coupling, right? Hard to have subterfuge

Annoyed that he blocked the information I died for, and that he outright said he wanted to help the wolves win. Hard not to feel resentful of those two things.

I know I said I’d go along with his plan to go after Kelly first, but I thought he just wanted help killing another more active and experienced wolf and would save Christina for later, hadn’t yet realized that he was coupled with her by cupid and intended to throw his townie team under the bus.

I get it, she’s his wife and it’s her first game, but I still can’t help grumbling a little.

 

[Zell 17]

Well he's gotta help the wolves for awhile in order to win as a couple. They were doing really well until Tommy got revived, now it's super over.

The way I see it going into last night:

Jawneh had to use the kill potion. If he uses it on a townie, it's instant game over anyways so who cares. If he uses it on a wolf, it's 4 v 3 if you assume that the wolves get a kill. But with two witches in the game a 4 v 3 isn't that bad, ESPECIALLY if you can say you were nightmared and that the witches should protect you so you can revive while you vote off a wolf. If you can lynch a non-Christina wolf in a 4 v 3 the game is over because then the cupid group becomes the dominant voting block.

Hindsight always makes these things easy though.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Tommy Boy needs to stop fucking around and become Tommy Man

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[Benzine]

How have people upset each other? Is this something I'm too New Zealand to understand?

 

[Zell 17]

How have people upset each other? Is this something I'm too New Zealand to understand?

Nah

 

[Benzine]

Hey Zell I could host one of your games if you wanted to show these fools how it is done

 

[Fool's Requiem]

it's some Ryan, Fools, Dean shit to be taking this to some real place where he just openly betrayed his wife.

I'm taking strays over here.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I honestly never expected Alu and Cole to get in an argument.

 

[Benzine]

If modern media has taught me anything, this is how Masshole's speak. I believe we are seeing them in their natural habitat.

Fwiw, if my wife was playing I'd be calling her a lying bitch to stir her up regardless of the state of the game.

 

[TD]

So I'm actually gonna say one thing.

This whole "spirit of the game" argument is bullshit and stupid.

Vash literally revived Tommy, a townie, who knows what's going on and was hoping Tommy would let them win.

That in itself is not within the "spirit of the game".

 

[Benzine]

So I'm actually gonna say one thing.

This whole "spirit of the game" argument is bullshit and stupid.

Vash literally revived Tommy, a townie, who knows what's going on and was hoping Tommy would let them win.

That in itself is not within the "spirit of the game".

Truest thing you've said in ages!

 

[Benzine]

I don't want to bring Vash down since he's such a lovely fella, but I can't help but notice he said he was doing so much better and what not... Then revived Tommy. Pride cometh before the Boy.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

He should have revived me and let me stab him in the back... let me be the bad guy.

 

[Ants!]

So I'm actually gonna say one thing.

This whole "spirit of the game" argument is bullshit and stupid.

Vash literally revived Tommy, a townie, who knows what's going on and was hoping Tommy would let them win.

That in itself is not within the "spirit of the game".

Which one are you mad at? Vash or Tommy?

 

[TD]

Which one are you mad at? Vash or Tommy?

Mad is a strong word, just calling out the bullshit / hypocrisy. It's about the accusation from Vash and Christina about going against the spirit of the game for kut/Alu to help the town.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I don't think there's anything wrong with admitting defeat and hoping the enemy of your enemy wins.

 

[canadaguy]

Vash I got a plan

How about you revive me and I just kill everyone

Gonna point this out that we could have avoided all this is Vash just went with this plan

 

[Zell 17]

Mad is a strong word, just calling out the bullshit / hypocrisy. It's about the accusation from Vash and Christina about going against the spirit of the game for kut/Alu to help the town.

Everybody is on their own team. I TRY to nudge the evils to support each other by giving them the 1 point "loss" in the standings, but it's just that, a nudge.

 

[Zell 17]

@VashTheStampede and @Analutics are here and let me tell you they're both FUCKIN THRILLED

 

[VashTheStampede]

Lmao should have known

Was just playing the hand I was dealt, boys. My given directive was to try and win as a couple first and foremost and, failing that, help the town win. Everything I did was done towards those stated goals. I didn't pick 'em.

By design it is a game of deception and I was forced into a situation that required deception.

 

[VashTheStampede]

So I'm actually gonna say one thing.

This whole "spirit of the game" argument is bullshit and stupid.

Vash literally revived Tommy, a townie, who knows what's going on and was hoping Tommy would let them win.

That in itself is not within the "spirit of the game".

And look how it's playing out. Tommy sticking with the town and my gambit failed.

All good in the hood.

 

[Benzine]

Who are you even talking to? Why is everyone justifying themselves so much and shit. I feel like there's always two pages of content I'm missing.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Who are you even talking to? Why is everyone justifying themselves so much and shit. I feel like there's always two pages of content I'm missing.

Oh thats my fault, I scrolled up

 

[Benzine]

The only person who I see who's done anything "wrong" is kut giving up.

Nice try, Vash. Looks like it would've been fun.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Nice try, Vash. Looks like it would've been fun.

It really was

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

So vash blamed me for the "don't betray us or he'll be killed" thing even though I feel like TD said it first?