You knew it couldn't last

[Local Hero]

How could you possibly lose at this point? Once the numbers are even the wolves win.

Correct. But I'm talking about the path to get here, we got incredibly lucky

 

[dimmerwit]

Or if he kills Kelly, which would quite frankly be hilarious even if we lose because of it.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Or if he kills Kelly, which would quite frankly be hilarious even if we lose because of it.

Doesn't that still result in a wolf win because the win condition is being "half the town" - even if he immediately dies after the win condition is met.

 

[dimmerwit]

Doesn't that still result in a wolf win because the win condition is being "half the town" - even if he immediately dies after the win condition is met.

I'm erring on the side of caution about this but I think I might choose to accept this interpretation!

 

[A Maybe Baker]

It obviously wasn't set in stone, but I think the point of no return was dimmerwit getting to avenge early. There were obviously other things before then that didn't help at all, but that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I think the only thing that could have changed that would have been the wolves hitting Kelly for some reason, who then avenged a wolf out of existence. But as Zell pointed out, Benzine accidentally loud mouthing the role out made that not possible.


What's the number of mistakes you normally say it takes for the town to make in order for the wolves to win? And how many did we get this time? I count at least 3:
CG protecting a wolf on the first night
Benzine outing Kelly as loudmouth
Kat killing dimmerwit early

Although I guess killing the librarian early also didn't help.


(not blaming anyone for these mistakes, we were all working with no knowledge for the most part and still brought it down to one wolf with one life, even with them being absolutely stacked to the point of being my literal worst case scenario)

 

[Local Hero]

Kat killing Jawneh as well

 

[canadaguy]

It obviously wasn't set in stone, but I think the point of no return was dimmerwit getting to avenge early. There were obviously other things before then that didn't help at all, but that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I think the only thing that could have changed that would have been the wolves hitting Kelly for some reason, who then avenged a wolf out of existence. But as Zell pointed out, Benzine accidentally loud mouthing the role out made that not possible.


What's the number of mistakes you normally say it takes for the town to make in order for the wolves to win? And how many did we get this time? I count at least 3:
CG protecting a wolf on the first night
Benzine outing Kelly as loudmouth
Kat killing dimmerwit early

Although I guess killing the librarian early also didn't help.


(not blaming anyone for these mistakes, we were all working with no knowledge for the most part and still brought it down to one wolf with one life, even with them being absolutely stacked to the point of being my literal worst case scenario)

Mine was just pure RNG

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Kat killing Jawneh as well

Yeah that was the librarian comment I had there.

Question for the wolves (and I suppose @Zell 17 ) - did you chuckle when I listed out my worst case scenario? I hope that at least got you laughing.

 

[finlandguy]

I 100% deserved to die.

Maybe not for muting Kelly, but definitely for the intention of muting again with reckless abandon.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Mine was just pure RNG

Exactly, but it still counts as "a mistake" technically.

I suppose "mistake" here is a move that works against the town whether intentionally or unintentionally made.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I 100% deserved to die.

Maybe not for muting Kelly, but definitely for the intention of muting again with reckless abandon.

I think you claiming to be the librarian led to your death more so than actually being the librarian. lol

 

[Tommy Boy]

Jon is an Alpha Wolf?

Oh dang, I thought FR's plan was gunna work.

 

[Local Hero]

Yeah that was the librarian comment I had there.

Question for the wolves (and I suppose @Zell 17 ) - did you chuckle when I listed out my worst case scenario? I hope that at least got you laughing.

 

[Local Hero]

This is all within like a minute of your post. An immediate "holy shit" from the wolves

 

[Local Hero]

Yeah that was the librarian comment I had there.

Question for the wolves (and I suppose @Zell 17 ) - did you chuckle when I listed out my worst case scenario? I hope that at least got you laughing.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Lmao. Amazing.

 

[finlandguy]

I think you claiming to be the librarian led to your death more so than actually being the librarian. lol

Quite possible. I do tend to play these games with all future games in mind just to mess with people's heads. And this time I had a good role, IMO, that I could out right blurt out without necessarily being a detriment. Though maybe it was in the end.

 

[shortkut]

At the very least, I have been vindicated

I knew you were innocent the entire time

 

[dimmerwit]

Alu, that's pretty much the reason we got rid of you again. I think you were the only person to even mention the possibility of two Alphas.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I certainly earned my two gruesome murders this game.

 

[shortkut]

It obviously wasn't set in stone, but I think the point of no return was dimmerwit getting to avenge early. There were obviously other things before then that didn't help at all, but that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

I think the only thing that could have changed that would have been the wolves hitting Kelly for some reason, who then avenged a wolf out of existence. But as Zell pointed out, Benzine accidentally loud mouthing the role out made that not possible.


What's the number of mistakes you normally say it takes for the town to make in order for the wolves to win? And how many did we get this time? I count at least 3:
CG protecting a wolf on the first night
Benzine outing Kelly as loudmouth
Kat killing dimmerwit early

Although I guess killing the librarian early also didn't help.


(not blaming anyone for these mistakes, we were all working with no knowledge for the most part and still brought it down to one wolf with one life, even with them being absolutely stacked to the point of being my literal worst case scenario)

I think the point of no return was stoning the wrong wolf

 

[shortkut]

Yeah that was the librarian comment I had there.

Question for the wolves (and I suppose @Zell 17 ) - did you chuckle when I listed out my worst case scenario? I hope that at least got you laughing.

I thoroughly enjoyed it

 

[shortkut]

Alu, that's pretty much the reason we got rid of you again. I think you were the only person to even mention the possibility of two Alphas.

That and we knew you could rally the town around you quite easily… that’s also why we went after @VashTheStampede . Kill all the ringleaders first

 

[canadaguy]

I still say two alphas should technically not be possible

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Jon is Alpha. Kut is Beta.

 

[shortkut]

I still say two alphas should technically not be possible

If you want to be technical, @Jon was more of a Beta

 

[shortkut]

Jon is Alpha. Kut is Beta.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

Hey, he's the one who is still alive.

 

[shortkut]

Hey, he's the one who is still alive.

By design because you all thought he was innocent because @canadaguy protected him. You all assumed the wolves attacked Jon

 

[canadaguy]

Beta wolf could be able to survive1 kill via lynching, but not a kill by other means.

So they have like 1.5 lives

 

[dimmerwit]

I still say two alphas should technically not be possible

I do get this. That said, even with two Alphas, an Avenger, a Guardian and a comical amount of good fortune we will still (likely) win by the narrowest of margins.

 

[A Maybe Baker]

By design because you all thought he was innocent because @canadaguy protected him. You all assumed the wolves attacked Jon

I thought you attacked him directly actually. But I guess not everyone did.

 

[shortkut]

Beta wolf could be able to survive1 kill via lynching, but not a kill by other means.

So they have like 1.5 lives

Well good thing he’s going to be lynched and not killed by some other method.

@Zell 17 new role for the dictionary

 

[canadaguy]

Well good thing he’s going to be lynched and not killed by some other method.

@Zell 17 new role for the dictionary

Well actually since we've determined definitively that you are the Beta, you should have died directly from Tommy's potion

 

[shortkut]

Well actually since we've determined definitively that you are the Beta, you should have died directly from Tommy's potion

No, Alu was not privy to the inner workings of the wolf hierarchy. If anything, my surviving the potion definitely proved I was the alpha

 

[A Maybe Baker]

No, Alu was not privy to the inner workings of the wolf hierarchy.

You sure about that?

 

[Tommy Boy]

Okay in all seriousness, do we start killing Local instead of trying for Benzine on day 1? The odds have been insane lol

 

[shortkut]

You sure about that?

You died twice, didn’t you?

 

[shortkut]

Okay in all seriousness, do we start killing Local instead of trying for Benzine on day 1? The odds have been insane lol

Nah, kill Tommy first. Your spreadsheet nearly outed all the wolves

 

[Local Hero]

Okay in all seriousness, do we start killing Local instead of trying for Benzine on day 1? The odds have been insane lol

 

[Benzine]

i knew local was bad when he was agreeing with me straight away and quagmire wasn't a wolf

 

[A Maybe Baker]

You died twice, didn’t you?

So I was the real alpha?

 

[shortkut]

So I was the real alpha?

Alpha townie confirmed

 

[Local Hero]

i knew local was bad when he was agreeing with me straight away and quagmire wasn't a wolf

 

[Benzine]

i was silently supporting you, i love it

 

[Zell 17]

I do get this. That said, even with two Alphas, an Avenger, a Guardian and a comical amount of good fortune we will still (likely) win by the narrowest of margins.

This is true, but it shouldn’t have been. Wolves basically outted themselves when the town really shouldn’t have any way to tell between Fools/Jon/Local/dimmerwit who the one good person was. Probably could have wrapped the game on day 4.

 

[Kat]

I 100% deserved to die.

Maybe not for muting Kelly, but definitely for the intention of muting again with reckless abandon.

I was on the fence about throwing the second rock until you said you were going to mute somebody every day.

I thought about taking out Local instead of dimmerwit, but he was likely the guardian and had already picked his target. Zell said for abilities like that, being concussed prevents swapping targets but not from the ability being triggered. So I figured maybe I could prevent a different wolf from using an ability that night. Obviously it didn't work out well, haha.

 

[Local Hero]

I was on the fence about throwing the second rock until you said you were going to mute somebody every day.

I thought about taking out Local instead of dimmerwit, but he was likely the guardian and had already picked his target. Zell said for abilities like that, being concussed prevents swapping targets but not from the ability being triggered. So I figured maybe I could prevent a different wolf from using an ability that night. Obviously it didn't work out well, haha.

All good. You definitely put more thought into your actions than the wolves

 

[A Maybe Baker]

I was on the fence about throwing the second rock until you said you were going to mute somebody every day.

I thought about taking out Local instead of dimmerwit, but he was likely the guardian and had already picked his target. Zell said for abilities like that, being concussed prevents swapping targets but not from the ability being triggered. So I figured maybe I could prevent a different wolf from using an ability that night. Obviously it didn't work out well, haha.

I can't say it was a mistake, killing Jawneh... Lol

 

[Benzine]

it's almost always beneficial to kill jawneh in my experience