Zell Wolf GWF Wolf - Zell's Version Night 1/Day 1/Night 2

[Ryan!]

There's also the possibility that Cole is the fool, claims to know who a wolf is, when he doesn't tell us, we vote him out and voila - he wins.

A common round 1 strategy is to not go for the most popular targets as they may end up protected anyhow.

I mean I did protect Cole night one and it ended up saving us two townies because Dean instantly targeted him as the Marksman.

SMOOTH GOING, DEAN!

 

[Zell 17]

I mean I did protect Cole night one and it ended up saving us two townies because Dean instantly targeted him as the Marksman.

SMOOTH GOING, DEAN!

The marksman just marked him, he didn't shoot. If he did your protection would be irrelevant since it is "friendly fire"

Another point I want to make since I posted it in dead forum:

The medium is designed to be able to talk to the dead at night. So Alu cannot share any information with the medium until nighttime.

 

[Raine]

I know last game doesn't mean anything now, but after the play that happened, it's very odd it was Alu that was killed. Cole and Kut would be my prime targets if I were a Wolf. Why keep either of them alive? They basically blew through the entire Wolf team and nailed the Serial Killer. So why wasn't Cole attacked last night? Why wasn't Kut? They're two very strong players. They can weed out baddies like it's nothing. So, again, why not go for one of them?

Cole and shortkut would be high probability targets for protection, even without knowing their roles. If they're pro-town, they're people you want around. If they're anti-town, you kind of still want them around for a little while for activity/entertainment/developing leads.

Alu is less likely to receive Night 1 blind protection, and can also be used to start raising suspicions against others. Namely, people like Cole and shortkut.

 

[VashTheStampede]

Honestly I'm kind of offended the wolves didn't target me.

 

[Cole]

Honestly I'm kind of offended the wolves didn't target me.

lemme make a phonecall.

 

[TD]

So I've finally caught up on every post and familiarizing myself with some of the dramatics that have been occurring. FR was a flakey toss out to generate some discussion but nothing meaningful has come of it and I never vote for nobody to die.

Knowing how things have played out and likely reading way too into of behaviour of people I haven't interacted with in years upon years, I'm switching my vote. There's a couple I'm pretty sure aren't wolves, but there's one that just jumps out to me as trying to deflect.

I vote for shortkut.

 

[Ryan!]

Cole and shortkut would be high probability targets for protection, even without knowing their roles. If they're pro-town, they're people you want around. If they're anti-town, you kind of still want them around for a little while for activity/entertainment/developing leads.

Alu is less likely to receive Night 1 blind protection, and can also be used to start raising suspicions against others. Namely, people like Cole and shortkut.

Entirely possible the RK went after one of them and they were protected, but we only really have one confirmed protector role. The Tough Guy. And he would be aware it was the RK that went after one of them that he protected and live until this day phase to tell us about it, thus outing the RK. The Tough Guy would be guaranteed to die anyway, so there would be no reason to not spill the beans about it.

So if that did happen, we'll likely hear about it today and have a safe lynch.

 

[Raine]

Entirely possible the RK went after one of them and they were protected, but we only really have one confirmed protector role. The Tough Guy. And he would be aware it was the RK that went after one of them that he protected and live until this day phase to tell us about it, thus outing the RK. The Tough Guy would be guaranteed to die anyway, so there would be no reason to not spill the beans about it.

Glancing at the roles, this is one of the more likely scenarios. This would, ostensibly, paint Cole as either the Tough Guy or the person protected by the Tough Guy.

The involvement of the Tough Guy means we're down 2 already, effectively, though in exchange for potentially 1 baddie.

 

[shortkut]

lemme make a phonecall.

Alpha wolf?

So I've finally caught up on every post and familiarizing myself with some of the dramatics that have been occurring. FR was a flakey toss out to generate some discussion but nothing meaningful has come of it and I never vote for nobody to die.

Knowing how things have played out and likely reading way too into of behaviour of people I haven't interacted with in years upon years, I'm switching my vote. There's a couple I'm pretty sure aren't wolves, but there's one that just jumps out to me as trying to deflect.

I vote for shortkut.

Changing vote to @TD because fuck you, that’s why

 

[Zell 17]

Children, please

Votes to lynch (7 required):

TD - 1 (shortkut)
Tommy Boy - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
shortkut - 1 (TD)

No vote - Raposa, Ryan!, canadaguy, Benzine, Warp, Ants!, Tommy Boy, Cole, Dean, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, Holly

Votes to skip (14 required):

No vote - Raposa, Ryan!, canadaguy, shortkut, Benzine, Fool's Requiem, Warp, Ants!, Tommy Boy, Cole, Dean, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, TD, Holly

 

[Tommy Boy]

Knowing how things have played out and likely reading way too into of behaviour of people I haven't interacted with in years upon years, I'm switching my vote. There's a couple I'm pretty sure aren't wolves, but there's one that just jumps out to me as trying to deflect.

I vote for shortkut.

How are you "pretty sure" people aren't wolves? Do you have other info here not mentioned from discussion? Or just a hunch?

 

[canadaguy]

@Zell 17 re: the villagers that were assigned roles randomly from the list, can there be duplicates of the roles? Or will each of the three selected have different roles?

 

[shortkut]

@Zell 17 re: the villagers that were assigned roles randomly from the list, can there be duplicates of the roles? Or will each of the three selected have different roles?

Last game there were two witches so I’m assuming duplicates are possible here

 

[Raposuh]

Yes, but last game was guaranteed 1 witch already, and the other witch was from the bonus roles. I think what CG is asking Zell here is, if a bonus role gets assigned, can that same bonus role get assigned again, or is it off the list?

 

[Raposuh]

Children, please

Votes to lynch (7 required):

TD - 1 (shortkut)
Tommy Boy - 1 (Fool's Requiem)
shortkut - 1 (TD)

No vote - Raposa, Ryan!, canadaguy, Benzine, Warp, Ants!, Tommy Boy, Cole, Dean, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, Holly

Votes to skip (14 required):

No vote - Raposa, Ryan!, canadaguy, shortkut, Benzine, Fool's Requiem, Warp, Ants!, Tommy Boy, Cole, Dean, Tubby23, VashTheStampede, TD, Holly

I voted to Abstain actually.

 

[TD]

How are you "pretty sure" people aren't wolves? Do you have other info here not mentioned from discussion? Or just a hunch?

There's a lot of roles that provide varying degrees of information, you could call it a hunch but there's more to it then that. I could rant about it until I'm blue in the face, but I could also be wrong.

 

[Zell 17]

@Zell 17 re: the villagers that were assigned roles randomly from the list, can there be duplicates of the roles? Or will each of the three selected have different roles?

Duplicates possible. All three random roles could be the same role with a 1/196 chance.

 

[Zell 17]

I voted to Abstain actually.

It's treated the same as not voting. Voting is not required.

 

[Ryan!]

There's a lot of roles that provide varying degrees of information, you could call it a hunch but there's more to it then that. I could rant about it until I'm blue in the face, but I could also be wrong.

And what information would that be? Anything you have and can make a strong case for only benefits us.

 

[Raposuh]

It's treated the same as not voting. Voting is not required.

So you're calling me an ignoranamus that didn't read the first post huh? Huhhhh?!

 

[Ants!]

There's a lot of roles that provide varying degrees of information, you could call it a hunch but there's more to it then that. I could rant about it until I'm blue in the face, but I could also be wrong.

Is this a hint that you’re spirit seer? If so you’re putting a target on yourself for wolves, in which case might as well share what you know so far and any protectors out there need to quietly protect you if possible.

 

[TD]

And what information would that be? Anything you have and can make a strong case for only benefits us.

Oh that was me generalizing about all the roles that can get info. Calling it more than a hunch was my behavioural analysis. I figured you in your profession could appreciate that.

Is this a hint that you’re spirit seer? If so you’re putting a target on yourself for wolves, in which case might as well share what you know so far and any protectors out there need to quietly protect you if possible.

It took me a hot minute to figure out how you came to that conclusion and then I saw it. Coincidence in my speech, although if I was and that's how you interpreted it - what do you have to gain by calling out attention to it?

Hmmm.

 

[Ants!]

Oh that was me generalizing about all the roles that can get info. Calling it more than a hunch was my behavioural analysis. I figured you in your profession could appreciate that.

It took me a hot minute to figure out how you came to that conclusion and then I saw it. Coincidence in my speech, although if I was and that's how you interpreted it - what do you have to gain by calling out attention to it?

Hmmm.

Because others read between the lines a lot better than I do, so if even my dumbass picked it up then you’re playing with fire.

 

[Ants!]

If I jumped to the wrong conclusion then nevermind, but if you let the cat out of the bag then we might as well make the most of it.

 

[canadaguy]

Still wondering here what Cole knows or is acting like he knows

 

[shortkut]

What if everyone is an aura seer?

 

[VashTheStampede]

Is this a hint that you’re spirit seer? If so you’re putting a target on yourself for wolves, in which case might as well share what you know so far and any protectors out there need to quietly protect you if possible.

If he is dropping hints, screaming from the rooftop what it means is a billboard for the wolves as to what to do with the information.

 

[Ants!]

My point being that a smart wolf could have picked up on it also, and if that’s the case then it would be helpful to know who showed up as blue last night. But he says that it’s coincidence and if I get shouted down about it then fine, I’ll keep hunches about other roles to myself.

 

[VashTheStampede]

My point being that a smart wolf could have picked up on it also, and if that’s the case then it would be helpful to know who showed up as blue last night. But he says that it’s coincidence and if I get shouted down about it then fine, I’ll keep hunches about other roles to myself.

My point being that I think if you were a wolf you wouldn't shout it from the rooftops, you'd share it privately. So I think you're a good egg currently.

 

[Cole]

hey let's play a game.

everyone has a role in this. most of them have night actions.

tell me.

who targeted me night 1? don't have to tell me what you did, just if you targeted me.

 

[shortkut]

hey let's play a game.

everyone has a role in this. most of them have night actions.

tell me.

who targeted me night 1? don't have to tell me what you did, just if you targeted me.

If I had a night role, I would have targeted you just like I did In the previous game

 

[VashTheStampede]

I didn't target anyone last night, trying to keep things mellow at the moment.

 

[Ants!]

My point being that I think if you were a wolf you wouldn't shout it from the rooftops, you'd share it privately. So I think you're a good egg currently.

shortkut always said I am a dum dum

 

[shortkut]

I didn't target anyone last night, trying to keep things mellow at the moment.

The wolf shaman cannot use his abilities at night…

 

[VashTheStampede]

I wear my sunglasses at night.

 

[canadaguy]

I wear my sunglasses at night.

I wear my pajamas at night.

 

[shortkut]

I wear my pajamas at night.

I also wear your pajamas at night

 

[canadaguy]

They have felt a bit crowded of late

 

[Ants!]

Everyone’s trying to get into your pants

 

[Zell 17]

Only 30 more hours guys

 

[canadaguy]

Oh shucks we better get a move on

 

[shortkut]

Oh shucks we better get a move on

Everyone knows the good stuff doesn’t happen until at least halfway through the episode

 

[Zell 17]

I made a mechanics change for Sheriff and Tough Guy. Instead of seeing a random wolf, they will see the "Lowest ranking" wolf. The wolves are ranked in the dictionary.

 

[shortkut]

I made a mechanics change for Sheriff and Tough Guy. Instead of seeing a random wolf, they will see the "Lowest ranking" wolf. The wolves are ranked in the dictionary.

That’s a change that only benefits the wolves rather than leaving it up to RNG

 

[Cole]

so no one's going to admit to using an ability on me last night?

 

[Ants!]

30 hours of Coleman keeping everybody like:

 

[Cole]

30 hours of Coleman keeping everybody like:View attachment 1327

huh?

 

[shortkut]

so no one's going to admit to using an ability on me last night?

If I had an ability to use at night, I used it on you. If I did not have an ability to use at night, I did not use an ability at night

 

[Zell 17]

That’s a change that only benefits the wolves rather than leaving it up to RNG

It's how I wanted to do it originally (and how it works in the game I borrowed a lot of this stuff from). I just needed to come up with a ranking. All I remember was that wolf avenger is lowest and alpha / seer the highest.

 

[Zell 17]

That’s a change that only benefits the wolves rather than leaving it up to RNG

There's benefit to the town too. Lets say wolves hit the TG tonight and the wolf avenger was jailed. Now the town knows who two wolves are instead of just one, because the wolf avenger won't be shown to the TG.