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Zell Wolf Zell Wolf Version 18 Day 2

Who should the villagers lynch? (5 votes required)

  • Fool’s Requiem

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  • Jon

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  • Kat

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  • Local Hero

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  • rktaker

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  • shortkut

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  • Smacktard

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  • Tommy Boy

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  • VashTheStampede

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I think that's correct (I'm new to this) but seems like jailer always dies and it could either be from a player or natural causes?
jailer doesn't always die, the dead body is just something that Zell does to make things even I think. the Jailer is able to well jail people and then can ask them questions that's the general gist of it i think. anyway the fact that the dead body at the beginning was the jailer should mean there is no jailer right now. either Jawneh forgot that the dead body was the jailer or there's something else that I am missing
 
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What you did day 1 doesn't matter. What matters is today. And tonight. You've outed yourself as the witch, so if people don't want to lynch you, you have to use your potion tonight as you're a prime suspect for both the wolves and solo. You're a kill role and even after the kill there's one protection.
I am afraid that being the prime target will certainly mean I won't be able to get my kill potion off, but my action does occur before the wolf kill at the very least. I'm going to try tonight for sure.
The bully is also out one kill by throwing a rock at me. They can only kill one person and disrupt another.
Lastly there's whoever is the jailer.
I thought the Jailer is dead because it was automatically assigned to the dead body? We wouldn't have another one.
I'm starting to ramble and losing focus of my point lol.

I could be wrong about you for sure. Currently I just don't believe you thanks to the way you presented yourself.
Yeah I'm kicking myself for that, but it would also be soooo out of character if I didn't go after the muter lol.
I do have one question Tommy. Why are you so sure about cg being good? I could gleam a small role claim from his posts yesterday, but that would be on the bottom of people needing protection early on.
I'm not so sure. I used my protection on him based on the "what do the wolves have against me and Jon" comment alone. I could be entirely wrong, which is why I said "in an alternate timeline, Kelly cg [you] and Jon are wolves". He was the only one presenting as townie that I caught yesterday. I didn't pick up any other role hints. Vash is being suspiciously quiet. shortkut is only posting gifs and asking for more info. Benzine hasn't really been around. Zero read on rktaker, Quagmire, or Dimmerwit yet. Feeling good about Local and Kat just from my own feeling.
@Tommy Boy why do you think Jawneh is a townie?
Based on how he admitted to being the muter Day 1. Surely it can go either way: he's telling the truth, or he's in cahoots with Kelly from the start. I did mention this yesterday but worth mentioning again today. I'm not really sold on anyone, and I only protected cg because of what he said. Even that was very loose.
 
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jailer doesn't always die, the dead body is just something that Zell does to make things even I think. the Jailer is able to well jail people and then can ask them questions that's the general gist of it i think. anyway the fact that the dead body at the beginning was the jailer should mean there is no jailer right now. either Jawneh forgot that the dead body was the jailer or there's something else that I am missing


Ah that makes sense, thanks, misunderstood the Jailer killed in the list order of things, thought it meant the Jailer was killed, but that is talking about their move
 
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Clarification on the dead body stuff, particularly for new players:

The "dead body" was created so that in shorthanded games, we could fill the game as well as ensure that everybody got to play at least on day 1. The way it worked was that whoever was attacked night 1 would "switch" roles with the dead body, they would survive and the dead body killed in their place.

We had a game where the dead body survived for a very long time for various reasons, so after that I made the rule that the "Dead Body" role will be killed off no matter what after the first night regardless of whether there was a wolf kill.

And here we are.
 
2nd most posts today, no?
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The whole "only making one post" thing from Kelly is frustrating. It's like he's trying to hide so he doesn't give anything away, but he's already claiming a knowledge role, so he'd already be a wolf target.

The only way it makes sense is to not incriminate himself as a wolf.
 

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The whole "only making one post" thing from Kelly is frustrating. It's like he's trying to hide so he doesn't give anything away, but he's already claiming a knowledge role, so he'd already be a wolf target.

The only way it makes sense is to not incriminate himself as a wolf.
It doesn't even really make sense in that case. If he's a wolf and lying then what's the end game? We lynch Tommy, who turns out to be a townie, and he's incriminated anyway? If he's a wolf and it's a sacrifice play, why not claim something more concrete? But if he's not a wolf then why just the one post with no reason given?

If Tommy had stuck to just claiming a protection role, I'd suspect benzine was the sacrifice, but that's not going to work with a witch claim.

It's possible benzine is coupled with someone who knows who a wolf is somehow, and that's why he didn't want to give further details. It's still weird, though.
 

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i feel like that would be way to obvious though wouldn't it? it’s definitely something that’s possible though
In princess bride style, he would expect us to think he was the fool, so he wouldn’t act like the fool, but he would expect us to know he would do that, so he is acting like the fool because he actually is the fool
 

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So who can we lynch today? Here's what I can think of that we know:

CG claimed he protected Jon and hinted that he can't do anything else
Rk claimed bully then said he's a strong role but may not be bully
Jawneh is claiming librarian and that he muted Kelly, who did indeed not post at all yesterday
Jawneh claimed to be hit by a rock but rk said it wasn't him
Jailer was killed the first night, which is a strong role
Alu was killed last night and was a flower girl
No kills the first night
No solo killer kills so far
No solo non violent role has been found (though we suspect Kelly)
No seer claims so probably no sorcerer
No attempted bandwagons so far - evils are laying low

Anything notable I missed?
 
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Knowing very little of strategy in this game so far, if a headhunter, wouldnt they try to be casting doubt on someone in hopes of getting them lynched? I get not going too hard to make it seem obvious, though maybe they're waiting until things start to heat up and doesnt want to appear desperate
I think the whole "this is my only post today" thing is throwing a lot of people off, especially when Kelly is one to articulate his thoughts very well and has pretty solid leadership when with the town. Not to solely judge his playstyle on previous games, but that's something I noticed.
 

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Kelly's strategy works if he's Headhunter or a townie. I don't think it works as a Fool. There's too much risk of getting killed the following night if you claim to know someone is bad and they turn out not to be bad. The invisible strat works in amogus because you can just hide in a vent and the imposters can't kill you. Wolves can kill Fools at night.
 
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Knowing very little of strategy in this game so far, if a headhunter, wouldnt they try to be casting doubt on someone in hopes of getting them lynched? I get not going too hard to make it seem obvious, though maybe they're waiting until things start to heat up and doesnt want to appear desperate
Isn't that what he did? He said Tommy is a wolf, lynch him to learn another wolf tomorrow.
 
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hey could i get a summary? balls to the wall busy so won't be able to catch up until half of you are going to bed
So who can we lynch today? Here's what I can think of that we know:

CG claimed he protected Jon and hinted that he can't do anything else
Rk claimed bully then said he's a strong role but may not be bully
Jawneh is claiming librarian and that he muted Kelly, who did indeed not post at all yesterday
Jawneh claimed to be hit by a rock but rk said it wasn't him
Jailer was killed the first night, which is a strong role
Alu was killed last night and was a flower girl
No kills the first night
No solo killer kills so far
No solo non violent role has been found (though we suspect Kelly)
No seer claims so probably no sorcerer
No attempted bandwagons so far - evils are laying low
^^^^^

Plus Kelly accused me of being wolf with nothing else and said that's his only post today.
And I claimed witch and plan on killing Kelly tonight with my kill potion. And can prove that because my stuff happens before wolves or solo stuff happens.
 
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hey could i get a summary? balls to the wall busy so won't be able to catch up until half of you are going to bed
Kelly claims Tommy is bad.

Tommy claimed witch and has promised to kill Kelly tonight to prove it.

Vash is second in posts in this thread.

We were missing the real sus reaction but now it's back.

Vote for Jawneh.
 

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hey could i get a summary? balls to the wall busy so won't be able to catch up until half of you are going to bed
Kelly only posting once today, stating he knows Tommy is wolf

Tommy claims to be witch and vows to kill Kelly tonight to prove
— witch kill occurs first so he can kill Kelly even if wolves target him

We don’t have a lynch target tonight so the wolves are happy
 
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