You chose...poorly

[Zell 17]

Welcome to the dead. Nobody yet that can raise the dead, but who knows? Maybe someone will elect to.

 

[Zell 17]

Hey @Kat

 

[Kat]

I can't believe Jawneh murdered me after we were partners last game. What a betrayal.

 

[Kat]

Posting this here for my easy reference.

 

[Zell 17]

Oh look, company

 

[canadaguy]

So is he just confused how the role change rules work then?

 

[canadaguy]

Or is Ben one of the solos?

 

[canadaguy]

So the reason I was so sus on Ben, was when he was talking about changing roles. His scenario was impossible, because he wouldn't become farmer until this night phase, and he wouldn't be able to become priest until day 3 at the earliest.

So I pmed Zell a bunch asking if he would be clear to anyone changing roles that they still spend day 1 as their original role, and he essentially said he would try his best to have each player understand.

So that seemed to me that at the very least his story was full of shit. Thinking in hindsight now, since the solos don't have a job change mechanism, maybe that's where he's sitting so the time to change discussion wouldn't have happened at all.

 

[canadaguy]

And of course, Zell cannot confirm or deny anything at all this game on the off chance someone becomes a dead visitor.

 

[Kat]

Considering how much time Ben spent on the graphic, I have a hard time believing he doesn't understand how the system works.

 

[Kat]

Any thoughts on who will be lynched?

 

[canadaguy]

Considering how much time Ben spent on the graphic, I have a hard time believing he doesn't understand how the system works.

Well he specifically said he switched from Violinist to Farmer, and that on Day 2 he will become priest. But the timing of that is impossible.

 

[canadaguy]

Any thoughts on who will be lynched?

The fuck if I know. Best case scenario for the town was that I was the wolves original plan and now they can't coordinate a target with the Shadow

 

[Kat]

Well he specifically said he switched from Violinist to Farmer, and that on Day 2 he will become priest. But the timing of that is impossible.

Hmm I missed that. Interesting.

 

[Kat]

The fuck if I know. Best case scenario for the town was that I was the wolves original plan and now they can't coordinate a target with the Shadow

Maybe that's why Benzine kept pushing for Fools?

 

[canadaguy]

Hmm I missed that. Interesting.

Violinist is useless on night 1. While it might have been more useful if I was patient and changed to Spirit Seer /Detective, but I'm not, and figured everyone was going to switch roles anyway.

My plan, should I survive the night, is currently to change to Priest tonight. Whether I then water anyone tomorrow or keep moving up that tree, unsure. Assuming somehow I not talking to Kat in the dead thread.

I posted right after that he can't change that quick, but seemingly everyone just passed over it. I feel I should have pushed it more, or maybe pointed it out again in my dousing post.

I also didn't buy his explanation of why he dumped off the seer abilities. Like violinist is a very useful seer role.

 

[Kat]

Yeah switching because violinist can't do anything night one is pretty silly, since it takes a day to switch. I agree it reeks of an excuse to not do anything the first night.

 

[canadaguy]

It's funny watching them going mad in the thread waiting on Zell

 

[Kat]

I wouldn't mind some extra company though!

 

[canadaguy]

Well looks like this place is becoming Erictown.

But you can be an honorary Eric

 

[Kat]

No way, I'd be an Erik.

 

[canadaguy]

 

[A PineSol Scent]

Oh man did you know Vash was lying?

 

[canadaguy]

Oh man did you know Vash was lying?

After Ben wasn't a wolf, yes

 

[A PineSol Scent]

It'll be interesting to see what happens tomorrow, and if anyone bothered to keep their powers to do anything on the second night, or if it'll be all farmers.

 

[Kat]

He seemed pretty sus, especially with the whole "just lynch me" thing. It'd be pretty funny if he's the fool again.

 

[Kat]

I would've kept and used my powers.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

I was planning on staying librarian. Like i said, a role I've never had before (didn't have voodoo wolf either).

 

[Kat]

I thought about promoting to the warden but I like the mechanic of being able to protect multiple people the same night. I was pretty excited about trying it out.

 

[Kat]

And if I used all my MP protecting then I could just go down to doctor and still protect every night!

 

[canadaguy]

I stuck on priest. I'd didn't seem probably to get far enough in the path to get anywhere useful.

Maybe could have used my water better, then drop to farmer to access the seer tree

 

[A PineSol Scent]

I will say it was kind of sad to be in the portion of the tree that ended at the lowest level...and that I started as the strongest role in that branch.

 

[canadaguy]

Yeah that one was kinda lame

 

[A PineSol Scent]

You all ready for more bad decisions?

 

[Kat]

I'm so ready.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

FR coming out hot.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

Two supposed flagger redirects in two nights?

 

[canadaguy]

Supposed

 

[A PineSol Scent]

And Jon apparently protected Vash...is he confirming that he was notified of protection?

 

[canadaguy]

Everyone in there protecting the guiltiest looking folks apparently

 

[A PineSol Scent]

FR protects Benzine for saying FR is guilty. Jon protects Vash for getting two townies killed with a fake read.

The FR one I can see. If Benzine was really town and potentially a seer type getting him killed could make FR look guilty.

 

[canadaguy]

FR protects Benzine for saying FR is guilty. Jon protects Vash for getting two townies killed with a fake read.

The FR one I can see. If Benzine was really town and potentially a seer type getting him killed could make FR look guilty.

Good point. And redirecting to vash is a good shot. He's clearly not town one way or another.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

If Vash is a wolf and Jon prevented FR from getting the No U badge...man

 

[canadaguy]

So I'm guessing they used the shadow right away just to get rid of the downside. And maybe targeted because you are a generally good player and can rally towns. Like I don't think they had a seer, and decided the librarian was all that powerful a role to take out

 

[A PineSol Scent]

So I'm guessing they used the shadow right away just to get rid of the downside. And maybe targeted because you are a generally good player and can rally towns. Like I don't think they had a seer, and decided the librarian was all that powerful a role to take out

Unless Tommy is a wolf in which case he said "fuck this guy we must kill him"

But yeah.

 

[TD]

Using the Shadow Wolf on Day 1 when the town is often hesitant to lynch can also be looked at as effectively just ensuring that somebody gets killed and there's not always a specific target, persay.

also hi.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

Using the Shadow Wolf on Day 1 when the town is often hesitant to lynch can also be looked at as effectively just ensuring that somebody gets killed and there's not always a specific target, persay.

also hi.

I can also be used to lynch the fool on Day 1!

Sadly that was not me this game.

 

[TD]

I can also be used to lynch the fool on Day 1!

Sadly that was not me this game.

On one hand, I was very amused that I was lynched Day 1 as the Fool in that game. On the other, I had plans and things I wanted to try but that was not an opportunity I had.

It's also very possible the Shadow Wolf is switching to a 0MP wolf use, so used the ability immediately on Day 1 before they transitioned.

 

[A PineSol Scent]

On one hand, I was very amused that I was lynched Day 1 as the Fool in that game. On the other, I had plans and things I wanted to try but that was not an opportunity I had.

It's also very possible the Shadow Wolf is switching to a 0MP wolf use, so used the ability immediately on Day 1 before they transitioned.

Yeah, you might as well. If Vash is involved then that would be obvious on his part. It also could have been a situation where there's an alpha wolf who sent a message saying "use Vash's targets and lets get a free lynch out of this"

 

[TD]

Has there ever actually been a game where the Shadow and Alpha both existed? Don't recall ever seeing it in use, so would be neat if it finally was.