Yeah, I feel you.
The good (bad?) thing about the gaming industry these days is that everything gets remastered or re-released in some fashion, so even the stuff that was unplayable on Playstation is fine now.
Unfortunately gonna have to do PC (emulation or otherwise) for those, yeah. Gears of War: Ultimate Edition is on PC, and there were rumblings some time ago about a Master Chief Collection-type of thing happening for the series but it never materialized. I'm not sure Fable is popular/relevant enough anymore to get the same treatment, especially with Lionhead Studios long gone. But maybe with the upcoming game? Who knows.
I would say if you're curious enough to give Lost Odyssey a whirl, go ahead and do Blue Dragon too. At least give it ~3 hours to experience one of the most insane(ly awesome) tonal whiplashes on the platform.
Lost Odyssey is to Final Fantasy what Blue Dragon is to Dragon Quest. YMMV on the charm factor but I quite enjoyed it.
Cool, thanks for that! I'd never even heard of Condemned or Jade Empire. I was hesitant on Blue Dragon but hell, why not? It's going to be a bitch to try to acquire all these games though. I can't remember the list time I saw OG Xbox games for sale in Canada.I would say if you're curious enough to give Lost Odyssey a whirl, go ahead and do Blue Dragon too. At least give it ~3 hours to experience one of the most insane(ly awesome) tonal whiplashes on the platform.
Condemned: Criminal Origins is an interesting game. It (and the sequel, but that's not BC and I don't like it) is a first-person brawler, which I don't really think many of those exist. But it's also a crime scene/criminal investigation/horror-lite game and I enjoyed what it was putting down on that front and think more games should experiment with that kind of thing. I'm also a massive chickenwuss and wasn't too scared, so there's that too.
And for OG Xbox, while I've only put the disc in long enough to make sure it worked circa 2006, I remember Jade Empire having very positive word of mouth and being one of the killer apps for the console. Absolutely no idea whether it holds up in the least all these years later, but it's somewhere in my backlog to fire up all the same.
Maybe, but comparatively a welcome reprieve after collecting GameCube games
Oh absolutely! GameCube is insane for pricing these days, not quite Saturn bad, but certainly not cheap.Maybe, but comparatively a welcome reprieve after collecting GameCube games
That's a good point, lol, but I think Xbox games are still just under the "old" radar, lol, so we get decebt deals...for now.One copy of Jade Empire brand new is apparently going for less than $20! I'm shocked these games haven't trended higher than GameCube games considering, y'know, you can still play them on modern hardware
The nostalgia just isn't there for the most part. Generally if someone owned the original Xbox, they were buying it for dudebro things like Halo/2 and prettier Madden. Maybe some Project Gotham Racing or Rare's output (lol). Jade Empire sold well at the time but it's more than 20 years old so presumably most people still nostalgic for it already have a copy. And/or just went digital via Xbox/Steam.One copy of Jade Empire brand new is apparently going for less than $20! I'm shocked these games haven't trended higher than GameCube games considering, y'know, you can still play them on modern hardware
Also very good shouts! They're fun games, not amazing, but a good story with good gameplay, so well worth picking up!
"No racing" more or less just boils down to not putting Project Gotham Racing or Forza on the lists, so that part's easy enough.
Did some quick first-run passovers, compared Achievement/Trophy listings, and then hit up Google to find other things that I may have overlooked. Lots of stuff missing, couple of things on the lists that shouldn't be, relative quality not super factored in (though these started as lists of things I want[ed] to play, so...) and doesn't really factor in what's physical/digital only. So very much early draft/Work-in-Progress sort of deal. But yeah.
Helpful website: http://xbmcxbox.blogspot.com/2013/05/list-of-original-xbox-exclusives.html
Azurik: Rise of Perathia
Blinx 2 : Masters of Time and Space
Blinx: The Time Sweeper
Brute Force
Conker: Live & Reloaded(A remake/remaster of the N64 game, also available minimally through Rare Replay on Xbone)
Crimson Sea
Deus Ex: Invisible War
Dino Crisis 3
Fable(Remake/Remaster available on X360)
Fable: The Lost Chapters (May be included in the above, I don't really know about Fable)
Fallout: Brotherhood of Steel
Fuzion Frenzy
Galleon : Islands of Mystery
Gun Metal
GunGriffon : Allied Strike
GunValkyrie
Halo 2(Remake/Remaster via Master Chief Collection on Xbone)
Halo: Combat Evolved(X360 and Xbone Remakes/Remasters)
Hunter : The Reckoning : Redeemer
Iron Phoenix
Jade Empire
Jet Set Radio Future
Kingdom Under Fire: Heroes
Kingdom Under Fire: The Crusaders
MechAssault
MechAssault 2: Lone Wolf
Murakumo: Renegade Mech Pursuit
Myst IV: Revelation
NightCaster
NightCaster II : Equinox
Ninja Gaiden(See below)
Ninja Gaiden Black (Sigma is on PS3 IIRC, technically same game but not quite)
Oddworld : Munch's Oddysee (Feels like something that should be available elsewhere by now)
Oddworld : Stranger's Wrath (See above)
Otogi 2: Immortal Warriors
Otogi: Myth of Demons
OutRun 2
Panzer Dragoon Orta
Phantom Dust (Xbone version is a remake I think)
Scrapland
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (Off-hand I know Switch has been getting a lot of these old SW games, not sure about KOTOR)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic II - The Sith Lords
Sudeki
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay(No longer exclusive, also remake/remaster on X360)
The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind
Thief: Deadly Shadows
ToeJam & Earl III : Mission to Earth
Unreal Championship
Unreal Championship 2: The Liandri Conflict
Unreal II: The Awakening
Voodoo Vince
Yu-Gi-Oh! The Dawn of Destiny (Just a traditional YGO game, so "technically" available all over the place)
Helpful list:
X360 Non-Backwards Compatible (Yet?)
Condemned 2: Bloodshot
Culdcept SAGA (Different entries in the series with different cards and boards on PS2 and 3DS)
Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom
MagnaCarta 2
Ninety-Nine Nights
Ninety-Nine Nights II
Ninja Blade
Operation Darkness
Phantasy Star Universe (Also on PS2)
Spectral Force 3: Innocent Rage
Tenchu Z
The Dishwasher: Dead Samurai
The Dishwasher: Vampire Smile
The Last Remnant (PS3 version was cancelled, a digital-only PS4 Remaster now exists)
Zoids Assault
X360 Backwards Compatible
Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts
Beautiful Katamari
Blue Dragon
Condemned: Criminal Origins
Crackdown
Crackdown 2
Divinity II: The Dragon Knight Saga
Enchanted Arms (PS3 version may exist that just doesn't have Trophy support)
Fable Anniversary
Fable II
Fable III
Gears of War(Remake/Remaster available on Xbone)
Gears of War 2
Gears of War 3
Gears of War: Judgment
Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved
Geometry Wars: Retro Evolved²
Ghostbusters: The Video Game (Multiplat, but the X360 version's servers still work)
Guardian Heroes
Halo 3(Can get inside Master Chief Collection on Xbone)
Halo 3: ODST(Can get inside Master Chief Collection on Xbone)
Halo Wars
Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary(Can get inside Master Chief Collection on Xbone)
Halo: Reach(Can get inside Master Chief Collection on Xbone)
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Infinite Undiscovery
Insanely Twisted Shadow Planet
Kameo: Elements of Power
Lost Odyssey
Ms. Splosion Man
Ninja Gaiden II (Sigma 2 is on PS3, technically the same game but not quite)
Overlord (PS3 version may exist that just doesn't have Trophy support)
Perfect Dark (Also part of Rare Replay)
Perfect Dark Zero] (Also part of Rare Replay)
Radiant Silvergun
Shadow Assault Tenchu
Splosion Man
The Darkness (PS3 version may exist that just doesn't have Trophy support)
The Maw
The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings
Too Human
Viva Piñata
Viva Piñata: Party Animals
Viva Piñata: Trouble In Paradise
External Sources Say (Need to look up later):
Bomberman Live
Bomberman Live: Battlefest
Comic Jumper: The Adventures of Captain Smiley
Dead or Alive 4
Full Auto (I think racing is secondary to pew-pewing, but...)
Fuzion Frenzy 2
Jetpac Refuelled
NIN2-JUMP
Portal: Still Alive
Raskulls
Saints Row (Remake exists on future PS and XB consoles, may be of dubious quality)
SpongeBob SquarePants: Underpants Slam
Honestly this will end up being 99.9% first-party stuff and indies with maybe temporary exclusivity deals.
Starting points:
Category:Xbox One-only games - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Ooooh, I never heard of these before. I'll absolutely pick these up at some point. I love me some 6th gen action-jank
That's a good shout, too! Very fun game!
'Cause Crimson Sea and Crimson Skies weren't originally on the list 'cause I don't have any particular interest in either, and when manually adding things while clicking on familiar-sounding titles via GameFAQs's database that I thought may be exclusive I managed to click on Sea but not Skies.
I don't think they've ever had a good name for a console, lol.
You kind of have to admire Microsoft's ability to provide increasingly worse names for four consoles in a row. That's impressive.
Definitely, they're nothing if not consistent!
Hard to guess on that, but... I can certainly see it happening. There's a reasonable amount of demand even now for BC PS3s, so - Xboxes with disc drives that are effectively the only way many games can be played outside emulation? Totally possible.
Oh man - those names? They start dumb and then get dumber when you learn why they're named that way!
So the Xbox 360? That was actually named that way... because Microsoft thought calling it Xbox 2 would make it sound inferior to PlayStation 3.
The Xbox One? Well... that one's about as dumb as any other reason. It's just short for Xbox: All-in-One or Xbox: One (Source for Entertainment) or something along those lines. It's the Xbox One X that's truly special here. Do you know what the acronym for that is? ...It's XBOX.
So why are the Series units called S and X? Why does official branding use | to separate them? Well... S|X. Six. It's the Xbox 6 > PlayStation 5, baby!
Can you give me your top 3? I'm curious -- especially if they're exclusive.
With the slims, I don't think they RRoD - but the disc drives do go out, which is a pain. But also kind of semi-avoidable by just installing everything instead of running the drive constantly.
Much higher emphasis on shooting, albeit with some stupid gimmicks attached (your character is an alcoholic and their hands are unsteady unless they find booze, which wears off after a few minutes), and the brawler and investigation stuff is what I would just generally label as "worse." Couple of... crazy setpiece moments though. For better or worse.
First of all, I really appreciate this post. Seriously. You put a lot of time and effort into it and it was really interesting reading about the different games.With the slims, I don't think they RRoD - but the disc drives do go out, which is a pain. But also kind of semi-avoidable by just installing everything instead of running the drive constantly.
Non-BC + Exclusive + Physical (+ Things I can comment on at all lol) is pretty limited. But:
1) Operation Darkness. With an asterisk 'cause you have to like SRPGs. It's by far the most unique SRPG I've played to date; it's all about soldiers with varying types of guns, instead of swords and magic. Ranges are enormous, cover matters, enemy backup appears in most missions and can instantly screw you over if you're not in a good formation. Also, tanks. There are tanks. They can run you over and instantly kill you... because they're tanks! But yeah; game makes extensive use of both normal turns and counter/trap attacks, insofar that you can say set up a sniper (or two) and any enemy that moves within their range of effect gets shot at. Kind of like a Poison tick or something in practice, but super satisfying. Also the game is hard as hell and actually requires the "Strategy" part more than the "Simulation" part.
2) MagnaCarta 2. Actually, I ended up really enjoying this one a fair bit. On paper it's basically something like a cross between, like, FF12 and... hmm... I used to have a really good second game that fit this slot, but I'm drawing a blank. Maybe Valkyrie Profile? IDK. Anyway! It's vaguely similar to FF12, but a bit more action-oriented and you can do combos between party members and such. Story wasn't the worst thing ever, either.
3) Ninja Blade. Asterisk insofar that I didn't get super far into it. But, again, Fromsoft. Kinda-sorta a cross between Ninja Gaiden and OG God of War (insofar that it loves QTEs).
4) Raiden Fighters Aces. I mean technically not exclusive-exclusive maybe, this is a compilation of 3 Raiden games - Raiden Fighters, Raiden Fighters 2 and Raiden Fighters Jet. They're also just, y'know, shm'ups. Other non-Fighters Raiden games are available on both Xbox and PlayStation.
5) Culdcept Saga. Asterisk that you need to enjoy board games (Monopoly, in particular) and card games. And be okay with either taking lumps, or casually farming for cards until you get a good/fun enough deck to progress with. Story matches take anywhere from 15 to 45 minutes a piece, and I like the premise... but, I don't know for certain that it's something I could wholeheartedly recommend to anyone. Plus there are different games in the series available on different platforms, like Culdcept Revolt on the 3DS.
6) Zoids Assault. Another SRPG, with kind of a unique take. You get 5 units that you play with the entire game, and that's it. You can make slight changes to their equipment - 3 armor varieties, some chips to increase certain stats if memory serves, that's about it - otherwise it's kind of one part SRPG and one part puzzle game. High emphasis on creating synergy between your units to facilitate assist attacks (so, double/triple/etc attacks depending positioning) and counter attacks. Obviously had a shoestring budget, but again - if you like SRPGs here, there's a lot to enjoy.
7) Condemned 2: Bloodshot. I didn't like it, but that doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad game. Also I played it on the hardest difficulty which, y'know, are notoriously unfair and obnoxious - so I was getting one-shot left, right and center by all manner of quickly moving enemies and whatnot.
8) Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom. Seemed serviceable, but mediocre. Reminded me a lot of something like Drakengard 3, just a bit more polished and without as many performance issues.
Technically fits the criteria, but meh...
9) Spectral Force 3: Innocent Rage. The "best" of the Idea Factory/Compile Hearts games I've played. Story basically doesn't exist, there are character interactions but they have zero context and mean nothing to people that aren't/weren't deep into Generations of Chaos lore (so, not me). But the actual gameplay itself was... okay. Basically it's a more or less standard SRPG, but attacks come in Light, Medium and Heavy varieties that you can choose. Different attacks have different attributes, like knocking enemies into the fair, to the ground, pulling them forward or pushing them backward. You can combo, and do chains with just singular units too. It could be interesting. But it's very, very grindy - which is a hallmark/staple of basically every IF/CH game I've played.
Yeah, I think probably closer to like $350~$400 for a new Slim. Something like that.
This is fascinating too. I didn't know regional console variants were more prized for this reason. Do you have examples? Is there a Saudi variant? I know there is of the XSX, but I can't find anything on the 360.
Hmm, I don't immediately know of any Saudi variants at least but can't entirely rule out it existing. Microsoft was trying to expand pretty aggressively back then. Usually a list for a game would look something like this:
That is... very strange and fascinating. I suppose it would be the quickest and cheapest way to get an updated/upscaled port, but like... San Andreas has an actual Xbox 360 updated/upscaled port already. I can't fathom why they wouldn't just have the OG Xbox disc download that; Rockstar isn't realistically getting money from either.
That's the version I'm referring to, and by all accounts it's a downgrade. The 360 version is the same as the iOS/Android version and has a bunch of bugs and graphical glitches and stuff.
Huh, never knew that! That's both disappointing and entirely unsurprising, sadly.
PS2 version is considered definitive, but I was hoping to get the Xbox version and enjoy that on the XSX. Seems like it's not possible
My anecdotal experience about playing Bully on Xbox 360 was that the game had no performance issues. But also, I am not a huge stickler for that stuff, and I definitely wasn't as a teenager (which is when I played it), so I might not have noticed any problems. I did get all of the achievements, so it couldn't have been that bad though.Rockstar's got quite the track record going there, good grief! Real antsy about Bully's prospects now, which I believe is the only game from them on my to-do list.
I've played a good number of games on the Xbone via BC, and haven't encountered any problems yet. In fact, an achievement that bugged in one of the X360 Lego games actually fixed itself when I played it via Xbone BC. So this is all very unfortunate for first impressions!
Flight games aren't really my jam but I planned to give this one a try at some point because of your recommendation. I'll probably pick up an OG Xbox too at some point. I really want to play Otogi 1 and 2 the mostList of Xbox games compatible with Xbox 360 - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
Some games do not work well despite no notes (MOH Frontline has poor framerate). Some work fine, despite the notes on the list (Armed and Dangerous worked fine).
Lemme know what you have and I can see if I've tried that game on the 360.
Crimson Skies works perfectly on the 360 and you should definitely play it.
