Wolf 5

[VashTheStampede]

Would it be too much to ask you to move your vote and leave it there to prevent any last minute shenanigans?

Dang maybe you shouldn't skip so early

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

Dang maybe you shouldn't skip so early

Was too ready to believe people wouldn't go along with last minute Jawneh shenanigans. I'm willing to bet that Neither Jawneh nor Zell would be at all willing to vote for eachother because it would end the game. So if you want to test that theory you should switch to Jawneh.

Jawneh already refused to vote for Zell earlier.

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I'm completely okay with either Jawneh or Zell. Not okay with any of the others.

why not kut?

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

why not kut?

Somebody needs to be the SV at this point, and I'm certain Zell is a wolf and the rest of you are town.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

(also that I'm town)

 

[shortkut]

why not kut?

Maybe it’s because I’m cute and willing to vote for anyone?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Maybe it’s because I’m cute and willing to vote for anyone?

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

I obviously know my own role and that I'm town
Vash is the marksman
FR is the gunner
Jawneh is the ritualist for real for once
Zell is Evil and thus a wolf

No SV = Kut is SV

 

[shortkut]

I obviously know my own role and that I'm town
Vash is the marksman
FR is the gunner
Jawneh is the ritualist for real for once
Zell is Evil and thus a wolf

No SV = Kut is SV

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I obviously know my own role and that I'm town
Vash is the marksman
FR is the gunner
Jawneh is the ritualist for real for once
Zell is Evil and thus a wolf

No SV = Kut is SV

and who does kut want to lynch?

 

[shortkut]

and who does kut want to lynch?

Either Zell or Jawneh. I am completely indifferent and will defer to you and vash

 

[shortkut]

I can’t win if I’m dead, so I can put my trust in a coin flip that the person I want dead is dead

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

and who does kut want to lynch?

He was initially on Zell, who is evil and a wolf and therefore cannot be a target, and is now on Jawneh, who could be a target and why I'm saying we should stick to Zell.

You all are on him, and if he's Fool instead of HH, that would end the game. Zell is the safest play here since he can't be a target (and also is literally a wolf).

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I don't want to keep putting vash in the "you lead, I'll follow" position.

 

[shortkut]

I don't want to keep putting vash in the "you lead, I'll follow" position.

I tried leading but you both decided to blaze your own paths so now I have to follow you guys

 

[Fool's Requiem]

 

[Fool's Requiem]

I don't know why those people were chosen for that gif...

 

[shortkut]

 

[VashTheStampede]

I'll come to my final decision here in a bit after work

I don't want to keep putting vash in the "you lead, I'll follow" position.

I'm not worried too much about it. I shot 2 wolves and led the charge to lynch a 3rd. If I fuck up on the 4th I still had a damn fine game and if anyone else has a problem they can feel free to do better next time.

 

[shortkut]

I'll come to my final decision here in a bit after work

I'm not worried too much about it. I shot 2 wolves and led the charge to lynch a 3rd. If I fuck up on the 4th I still had a damn fine game and if anyone else has a problem they can feel free to do better next time.

 

[VashTheStampede]

So what I still do not understand is the Tommy thing.

His reasoning of a Wolf Scribe being a possibility is problematic because he knows the identity of the last wolf and thats the only one that could be a scribe.

So Alu must have been lying

 

[shortkut]

Or he’s trying to create plausible deniability. No one is denying that there is an instigator, only who is instigated. That means Tommy actually is the instigator

 

[VashTheStampede]

Or he’s trying to create plausible deniability. No one is denying that there is an instigator, only who is instigated. That means Tommy actually is the instigator

Tommy seemed at first to be pretty convinced there was an error by the GM but then relented because a scribe was the only other possibility.

The only additional possibilities I see are:

1. Alu a lie
2. Tommy getting meta

 

[shortkut]

Tommy seemed at first to be pretty convinced there was an error by the GM but then relented because a scribe was the only other possibility.

The only additional possibilities I see are:

1. Alu a lie
2. Tommy getting meta

He was upset about the aura thing in the beginning. It wasn’t until later that he tried to shout about a scribe, but that wouldn’t explain the aura discrepancy

It is most likely that Tommy was the instigator and taken aback that he was discovered. Not being able to kill and having a good aura should protect him from most seers

 

[VashTheStampede]

He was upset about the aura thing in the beginning. It wasn’t until later that he tried to shout about a scribe, but that wouldn’t explain the aura discrepancy

It is most likely that Tommy was the instigator and taken aback that he was discovered. Not being able to kill and having a good aura should protect him from most seers

But then why did Alu see Unknown?

 

[shortkut]

But then why did Alu see Unknown?

Maybe he guessed and if he was proven wrong would be lynched as the fool

 

[shortkut]

But then why did Alu see Unknown?

Also, no role places an unknown aura on someone

 

[VashTheStampede]

Maybe he guessed and if he was proven wrong would be lynched as the fool

That's kinda where I'm at with it

 

[VashTheStampede]

My problem is whenever I try to logic I fuck myself over. I need to just forget everything and let vibes take the wheel.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

I'm neither instigated nor a wolf. That all should be pretty clear at this point (well at least the instigated part of it, the wolf part becomes obvious after). Tommy was at no risk to actually be outed so there would have been no reason to just throw him out there to get got.

Because there's only one wolf left and I'm not instigated, I cannot be the wolf.

I honestly gave out the information I had and it turned out to be only half right in two instances somehow (right in the sense that I had the teams correct but somehow an incorrect aura).

 

[Jawneh]

There's two universes here, both of which have their own universes in them from what im seeing. We gotta decide on which of the first two we're in. And that is whether there is one or two wolves alive.

I'm saying there's two thanks to locals admission in the dead thread that he was a librarian and not voodoo. The way he worded himself as well as getting nothing from Jon or dimmer makes me believe local. And the only way he could appear as voodoo is a scribe wolf. If you go further meta about it with what Tommy was saying about a scribe it checks out.

 

[shortkut]

There's two universes here, both of which have their own universes in them from what im seeing. We gotta decide on which of the first two we're in. And that is whether there is one or two wolves alive.

I'm saying there's two thanks to locals admission in the dead thread that he was a librarian and not voodoo. The way he worded himself as well as getting nothing from Jon or dimmer makes me believe local. And the only way he could appear as voodoo is a scribe wolf. If you go further meta about it with what Tommy was saying about a scribe it checks out.

Is that your first time ever visiting one of the dead threads? Do you expect everyone to spill every secret every role every decision they made?

 

[Fool's Requiem]

FYI, I will not be voting Alu out of worry he could be a Fool or an HH target. He is not HH. He COULD be a wolf, but not a matched one. If he's a wolf, a lynch on him can wait.

 

[shortkut]

in this thread Jawneh believes that you need irrefutable evidence to make any decision

In the death thread, all it takes is one person to make a claim that they are innocent to be enough proof

We need someone to change his name to Schrodinger

 

[Jawneh]

Is that your first time ever visiting one of the dead threads? Do you expect everyone to spill every secret every role every decision they made?

Townies tend to be very forthcoming with info in the dead thread. Evils very rarely try to mess with anything after death. Barely even try to keep up appearances. And considering how Tommy was posting more in there he could've spilt the beans on people, but didnt. So theres that too.

 

[shortkut]

Not Schrodinger, John Kerry because of all the flip-flopping

 

[shortkut]

Townies tend to be very forthcoming with info in the dead thread. Evils very rarely try to mess with anything after death. Barely even try to keep up appearances. And considering how Tommy was posting more in there he could've spilt the beans on people, but didnt. So theres that too.

But local was evil. Because he sounds forthcoming that means he is town friendly? What type of logic is this?

 

[Jawneh]

Considering how adamant you are about contradicting and attacking everything I say as possibilities should be enough to tell everyone you're a wolf.

 

[shortkut]

Considering how adamant you are about contradicting and attacking everything I say as possibilities should be enough to tell everyone you're a wolf.

I’m only defensive because I don’t wanna die and right now. I’m the vote leader if you were to join us and vote Zell, which you’re saying you’re not connected to, then you and I would both live and he would die and I would not be arguing with you anymore

 

[Jawneh]

But local was evil. Because he sounds forthcoming that means he is town friendly? What type of logic is this?

If it pleases your highness, I felt he was honest and trusted his word. Everyone is free to not listen to that.

But what would the wolves benefit from saying theres two wolves left? Having one be hidden is better for them as the rest only is looking for an instigated wolf.

 

[shortkut]

If it pleases your highness, I felt he was honest and trusted his word. Everyone is free to not listen to that.

But what would the wolves benefit from saying theres two wolves left? Having one be hidden is better for them as the rest only is looking for an instigated wolf.

No one said there were 2 wolves left. Everyone said they weren’t the last wolf

 

[Fool's Requiem]

Not Schrodinger, John Kerry because of all the flip-flopping

The person that annoyed me the most at flipflopping was Mitt Romney. That dude did not have a consistent opinion at all. Its one thing to change your mind based on knowledge gained, but he seemed to do it to try to cater to everyone.

I'd still take him over what we have now.

 

[shortkut]

@VashTheStampede @Fool's Requiem you have seen consistently that Jawneh and Zell WILL NOT vote for each other.

I will vote anyone, including Alu to give the fool a win rather than let the instigator couple make us look like idiots

 

[Fool's Requiem]

@VashTheStampede @Fool's Requiem you have seen consistently that Jawneh and Zell WILL NOT vote for each other.

I will vote anyone, including Alu to give the fool a win rather than let the instigator couple make us look like idiots

TBF, Zell seems resigned to not voting for anyone but himself.

Also, stop making me agree with you.

 

[VashTheStampede]

TBF, Zell seems resigned to not voting for anyone but himself.

Yeah that is making this less fun

 

[shortkut]

TBF, Zell seems resigned to not voting for anyone but himself.

Also, stop making me agree with you.

Kill me first next game

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

@Jawneh if there are two wolves, as you're claiming, surely they would have tried to kill someone going into the day phase yesterday right?

What stopped the kill with Ants not claiming protection on anyone?

 

[shortkut]

What stopped the kill with Ants not claiming protection on anyone?

He prefers to bareback it?

 

[Zell 17]

@Jawneh if there are two wolves, as you're claiming, surely they would have tried to kill someone going into the day phase yesterday right?

What stopped the kill with Ants not claiming protection on anyone?

You know I’ve been thinking about this. Is there a possibility that the wildcard is the werewolf fan and there is no headhunter or fool. And the lone wolf hit the werewolf fan and that’s why there are two remaining? But that would sure be a LOT of info for a “Ritualist” to know.

 

[A Vaguely Ambiguous Username]

I mean the other wolf would have tried to kill off who they thought was paired with the traitor wolf, and the traitor wolf would have to needed to try to stop that (so I guess hope they outrank the other?). But then someone would have been targeted with no tie in the vote. And no one claimed protection.

So what happened?